The Chemical PE Thread

The world record holder for Penis Enlargement used 5000iu of HCG ever 15days with the use of traction and even weights. He grew 6 inches. There is something called the masculinization programing window, where your mom programs your genetic potential for penis size. But after your born to compete that potential you need androgens in the proper amounts over time. Now this is the kicker, depending on if you met your potential or not can be the determining factor as to how easy things like chem pe or the Priapus shot will work for you or not. If your not very lucky and got exposed to estrogens of phalates in the environment or you were fat as a kid or teen you might not have got all the adrogens you need to meet your potential. These are the prime candidates for growth with ease from stuff like the Priapus shot and chem PE. Dr Runels doesn’t even know why his shot works or not, but I think I do. Anyway chem pe wont work for everyone the same precisely because of this reason, the MPW. IF you already hit your genetic potential you can still get gains but its a much slower process of using biological creep to kick up Androgen receptors. The reality is if you can increase androgen receptors in the penis and supply the needed androgens you will grow so long you stop or outpace estrogen interference which is anti-androgen. Especially if you didn’t meet the potential programed by your mother in the MPW. The fundamentals of chem pe depend on the production of androgen receptors, if you don’t have enough or have to much estrogen you cant grow. Teens that have not stop growing have the most potential to grow from ChemPE, HGH, Priapus shot, etc, but not sure how ethical it is to reveal it to teens. But they have not shut growth off yet so androgen receptors abound as well as AR mRNA which is also a requisite for any real past maturity growth. When we hit maturity we kick out estrogens that stop androgens and masculinization. Thus DHT no longer find androgen receptors to bind in the mature penis and alas no more growth. But this can be effected via ChemPE! You can upregulate DHT receptors after maturity and you can supply exogenous DHT that can and will bind to these receptors and cause new growth. This is the new science in it infancy, but like light cycle for plants the ratios of this to that hormonally make all the difference. Plants grow with heavy light for more hours, cut that and they stop vegging and start to flower. This is similar, androgen to estrogen and their receptors and their ratios. Keep that faith…

Inuic…

P.S. Folks like Ronielle have tried DHT blockers for hair for a short period of one month, after his noted a surge of growth with external DHT but it was to much growth in terms of girth. So he got length yes, but the girth gains he experienced were beyond what his partners could handle so he gave the method up. But it did work for him and has also worked for others. This is one of the chief known methods to upregulate DHT receptors, so the DHT blockers do not effect DHT per say but the receptors that DHT binds to. This is how they keep DHT out of the scalp where is causes baldness in some men only.

P.S.S

As pertains to HCG…
Penile growth in response to human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) treatment in patients with idiopathic hypogonadotrophic hypogonadism - PubMed

HCG should be able to help anyone that has not met the full potential programed during the MPW. And in sufficient amounts combined with biological creep methods can create gains. The World Record Holder in PE used 5000iu of HCG ever 15days with traction and weights. Traction in cells in known to upregulate androgen receptors and hence meet a requisite condition for any and all human growth. Its the same reason braces work, or the hoops in people ear lobes, or the long neck folks in Africa with rings around their necks. Force over time grows tissue because such force upregulates androgen receptors, couple that with the requisite androgens and wa la you have growth! Until next time…

Peace out…

The fundamentals are PGE-1 induced erections at least 2 hours at a time for approximately 15 hours a week. You can do more time like 3 or 4 hours but you should not do so unless you add IGF-1 lest inflammation down regulate androgen receptors. Like 12mcg of IGF-1 as per the patent. The basic principle at work is biological creep and androgen receptor upregulation. You need to compliment this with androgen availability either naturally or find a way to add it like via DHT Gel. You can hit a plateau, once you do you can add in stuff like verapamil or potaba cream to the tunica as well as human relaxin -2 injections to soften collagen\septum and suspensory ligament from the inside out. Combine these efforts with traction methods and water and air pumping with a gauge enabled pump. I stick to water pumping due to the way pressure results from the inside out vs the outside in like with air pumping. Also air pumps create edema, water either much less or not at all depending on forces applied. You can grow at a pace just slower then the pace of human nail growth. In humans, nails grow at an average rate of 3 mm (0.12 in) a month.

These are like the basics, its like knowing that to grow plants you need a long light cycle and to flower then shorten it, but by how much and what do you add and when and how much? Like what fertilizer’s [peptide\hormone\growth factors analog in my metaphor] do you need to add and when? Well that depends on the phase of growth you are in, vegetative or flowering. Same with penis growth, the conditions for growth were met in puberty, like spring time for plants, then eventually vegetative growth ends and flowering begins like in fall and the plants mature sexually. Well once we past our spring time puberty phase we stop penis growth because mature testicles kick out estrogens that stop growth in the penis and testicles as well as bones due to estrogen causing the growth plates to close in the case of bones, [penis has no growth plates] all this happens at maturity due to estrogens. Estrogens are anti androgen. Multiple peptides\hormones\growth factors can aid and abet penis growth, just like all sorts of fertilizers can assist plant growth at different phases of the growth cycle.

But just as with plants some stuff works better and more fundamentally. Like you need the right proportions of stuff at the right times to properly impact the growth cycle your in and optimizing at a cellular level. The same appears to be true with Chem PE and penis growth and to understand how to artificially impact growth just as with plants you have to understand the cycles of growth, and under what conditions does growth happen when does it start and stop and what starts and stops it. Anyway like Nitrogen is fundamental to vegetative growth, just as androgens are fundamental to penis growth, knowing under what conditions to add these to get growth during the growth cycle is key not just knowing that it is simply at some point needed. Flowering plants have different chemistry and so does a mature penis. You can get a flowering plant to revert to vegetative growth by changing its exposure to light via its light cycle. I propose that in a similar manner chem pe can cause the penis to revert so to speak to the growth phase of its biochemistry. You just have to understand the principles involved. Same as with plants, if you don’t know about light cycles you can’t grow prime flowers off season indoors artificially under lights. This is my metaphor for how ChemPE behaves via the Estrogen to Androgen exposure cycles we experience as we mature. If you don’t know about what starts and stops the growth phases and under what conditions do they come about you cant know how best to impact that phase of growth or control just how to get the penis to revert to a former state for its conditions for growth. These are my personal theories [based on known science\pubmed] and metaphors to give an outline for whats going on with ChemPE. There is more to come folks, I have only just begun to fight….

Inuic

I’ve been PE longer then most of you are old. Trimix is the answer to girth. Subject to loss of length. By the way, I was not looking for girth. Just a solution to ED. What I got was an eye opener in girth.

I’m retired from PE, but I still stop in here now and again to see what guys are up to these days. I’ve read through this years long thread, but I never found the answer to the very first question I had when reading the first post… indulge me if you would.

How do you guys keep the DMSO from freezing in the fridge? I remember we had issues in one of our chem labs because the heating system broke in the building, and the DMSO froze. The freezing point I want to say is around 60 degrees F. I noticed that you use what I assumed was pure DMSO to reconstitute for your stock solution.

Just curious. Thanks!

Anyone try HGH? Or IGF-1?

Don’t put it in the fridge if you plan to use it shortly.
To store it its not wrong to put it into the fridge though.

How often per week did you use trimix, and what was the duration of your erection when you used it?

I also use trimix for ED but haven’t used it for a long while.

Now, I’ve been using trimix for 2 1/2 months. Appear to have gained 1/4 inch around permanently. That’s 7 1/2 circumference erect. The odd part my circumference remains at 7” soft. It raises eye brows at the gym. (I weight lift almost everyday) I use to be 6” around soft. I never hang less than 6” long, not bone pressed, when soft and that’s when I’m cold. I have ballooned up to 8” circumference on trimix and stayed hard for about 4 plus hours. I’ve done this about two to three times a week by ejecting 7 units each time and about 2 units on the other days I’m not with the wife. After awhile, erections are painful, but with my decades of PE I can easily handle the pain. Three Ibuprofen and two Tylenol and the pain is bearable. This is what I’m told results in megloaphallis. I believe I’m experiencing it. I suppose my dimensions already puts me there. Anyways, like I said, this routine was not for growth but for ED and it works. My wife is quite happy. I made this post by request. I am still going to try relaxin with a hanging routine because I do want to reach my goal of permanent 10” BPEL. I’m glad I have the support of my wife. I am prescribed trimix indefinitely for ED. I am in hopes my circumference does not increase. I do nothing anymore to increase it.

Hey Italian10inch:

Thanks for the long reply and the detail. A few of tri-mix guys on an ED board I go to have also said they have gained some girth since using trimix on a pretty regular basis. (Two or three times a week)

Appreciate you spelling this all out for me. I feel like I am atrophying a bit as I,m not having much sex. Will definitely make it a point haul out the trimix again.

That’s kind of what I was getting at. If you make a stock solution that has 2-3mg in the vial, you’re not going to use that all in a short period of time. So you would be diluting portions of the stock solution for short term use, which I understand.

But do you guys just let the stock solution (the larger vial that you are taking smaller, weekly or shorter term portions from) freeze in the fridge?

And if so, freezing after reconstitution doesn’t seem to affect the efficacy of the PGE-1?

Sorry if I’m splitting hairs, I’m not meaning to be. But the amateur chemist in me got his interest piqued.

Is there a cream for gains?

I’m not capable of injections.

Interesting paper about the treatment of priapism.

Our experience in the treatment of priapism - PMC

It seems that Terbutaline (5-10mg, oral) is preferred to Pseudoephedrine/Sudafed (60-120mg, oral). And, if that doesn’t work, intracavernous injection of phenylephrine, norepinephrine, ethylephrine or epinephrine should be tried. Might get one of these ready, just in case.

However, this passage caught my eye:

‘It can be observed that in five cases the duration of priapism was insignificant (7-9 hours), since all patients were warned prior to injection of vasoactive substance about possible development of priapism and advised to seek immediately medical aid if this condition occurred. The short duration of priapism allowed to restore and to preserve the erectile function in all three patients with psychogenic erectile dysfunction, since there were no likely fibrotic changes in the cavernous tissue over 8 hours, and the difficulty of the intervention was insignificant.’

So, 7-9hrs of priapism is ‘insignificant’ and of ‘short duration’. I’m sure it didn’t feel like that to the patients, but regardless, the point is that no damage was done over that time period. From reading about it in this thread, I’d been led to think otherwise.

for gains is there something oral that I can use?

if you want to help me write private chat.

I’m not capable of doing injections and speaking English well.

Thank friend.

You’ve tried Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra?

There’s a urethral suppository called Muse (drug is alprostadil).

Sorry, for gains? No, not directly. You can’t just take a pill and grow a bigger penis. You need to have a method of enlarging it. Chemically induced priapism is one of those methods. But there are others, and the best is to use them in combination.