The Chemical PE Thread

PGE-1 with DMSO is great. I don’t know if that would work with BPC-157, which I’ve only seen reconstituted with bacteriostatic water.

jser
Unfortunately, the 3/8 to 1/2 I thought was gained was more than likely inflammation that completely resided to baseline despite continuing regular PE. I got worn out mentally and that result turned me off from it (not forgetting going through 2 boxes of pins). The things that were done with regular PE gave a solid 1/2, and 1/4 more with length. The reason being is I think regular PE causes more real trauma and that is needed for growth.

I think, for now, ChemPE is in infancy with a questionable future. I don’t have the money and mindset to be in a hamster cage when I already know of things that have worked. I haven’t seen any real evidence of Adams’ trials, if there is (and not word of mouth) redirect it here, but if you throw your license on the line you might as well go full throttle and do video journals and live measurements from a decon break (that’s just me though).

thurberx
I have sort of gone way past the point of trying something and making extraordinary claims after I get it into my head that my flaccid is hanging a little lower after two weeks at it, or whatever the fuck. The reality is I’ve done many variations on chem PE over the past year and only gained about 1/8” in both length and girth over that time period. So, suffice it to say, I haven’t homed in on what works yet. I’m just trying new protocols that are made up of shit I haven’t tried yet, at this point. Possibly nothing works and I’m a huge fucking gullible idiot surrounded by con-men and other gullible idiots on the internet. Stranger and less likely things have been known to happen…

thurberx
I think my days of needles are behind me. In reality, I spent a good 12-13 months injecting PGE into my weiner at an average rate of 3x weekly. This amounts to 150-200 injections. Other injectables included, at various times, IGF1, GHK-CU, DHT, VGF, aFGF, bFGF, and some other things I’ve frankly forgotten about by now. I kept up with topical DMSO/PABA/sometimes verapamil at least 1x daily as well. I typically did it at night, usually in conjunction with tadalafil at bedtime, for all-night priapisms. There were lengths of time (months-long periods) where I combined the chemical erections with pumping, clamping, or jelqing work.

In all frankness, over a year later, I think maybe I gained 1/8” of girth, tops. And I don’t believe I gained any length to speak of. I had recently been taking a short break which turned into a hiatus, and I still get the wild urge to inject sometimes but at this point in time I have to level with myself: if over a year of injections and all the pain and hassle they entail barely made my dick budge, why the fuck do I think another year of torture is gonna change the equation any? Putting it all in perspective, I cannot rationalize starting up again with PGE.

kingsnake
Hey fellas. Becareful with injecting everyday. My urologist explained to me that men that have erection problems and inject more then recommended have been reporting peyronies diseases later on in life from to much scar tissue build up of pinning daily.
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The reason why I stopped with PGE1 injections is because my natural erections started to suffer big time once I started injecting over 100 mcgs of PGE1. Didn’t want to have to become dependent on the stuff so I said to hell with it.

After quiting PGE1 injections cold turkey, I lost my quarter inch girth gain from it but that made me realize that the gains that I got during my injection phase of my journey was only temp gains. My midgirth is down to 6.25 to 6.3 inches when it used to be 6.4 to 6.45 inches when I was injecting PGE1.

kingsnake
Hey OMG. I’d rather use the suppositories because my urologist told me that my tunica has developed some scarring and the entire structure is toughening from my years of PE. Pinning my dick at this point will do more harm then good.

I’ ve been doing PE since 2008 and now 9.6 lenght x 6.2 girth, but now it seems that all of these years of PE have caught up to me with tissue toughening and scarring setting in.

It seems that after doing chemical PE and injecting pge1, things went down hill, probrably from the constant pinning of my dick for so many months.

kingsnake
Kingsnake checking in. I’m not hating on PGE1 but it wasn’t for me. My dick was definitely becoming dependent on the pge1 injections to get erect, diminishing my natural EQ. It got to the point to where even 100 mcgs of pge1 would only grant me 30 minutes of boner time and the pain was ridiculous. Once I realized that my dick wasn’t getting hard anymore with out pge1, I freaked out. When engaging in sex, the snake would only get about 60 to 70%erect at best and became a struggle to maintain even that. I completely went off PGE1 cold turkey and with in 1 month, my natural raging boners returned. From then on I never went back to pge1 again.

Dude_7
I did about 30 pge-1 injections in 6 weeks this spring. I used a divo cup too. During this time my natural erection quality went from good to really bad. Now, 3 weeks after my last injection, it is ok.
It seems like the erections the pge1 is creating, shut down the bodys natural way to get erection. Today the “inventor” Ronielle, aged 37, is dependent of hcg to get erections. And OMG! is looking for it. Noone admits that the cause of ED is from the injections, instead they point to other elements or functionings in the body. They make that as the direct cause and neglect the harm injection has done.
I have read about 90 pages on this log and many other, like me, quit because they realised (or used their intuition) that injections are really bad. Another guy stopped because he started to get scarring. He has achieved nicely without injections afterwards. Another one pointed out that the blood veins easylie get injured from it too.
And why is there so many that gain (up to 3 inches) without this method, and never touch this? Because they use common sense!!
Why is there so many that don’t gain any from injections? They quit pretty early (their intelligence starts to work later than those who said no to injections), but longterm users have also proved that it didnt work. I don’t care if a guy can bring 5 reasons (or 1) to inject. Erection and a healthy penis is nothing to play it. In addition, hairloss may start / increase quickly.
I think the reason people believe in injections, is that they compare it drug. Like a magic pill that may do wonder. But they also lack knowledge beforehand.

Fact: injections cause people to destroy their natural EQ, sometimes permanently. Fact: some get scars and others harm their inner blood veins. Fact: very few gain any bigger size. Fact: most people who try it quit.

B0nes
It’s over? OMG are you still pinning or anybody else? Has anyone made any gains I’ve found there are easier less painful and long ways to make your penis bigger like manual pe

Can PGE-1 and BP157 be reconstituted with 100% DMSO and injected? Or do you have to dilute the DMSO with bac water or something else?

I’ve been searching for 2 days for straight answers and can’t really find a good/simple guide on recon. If you can point me to a link or know the answer, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks

I wonder whether the ED is related to PGE1 alone or injecting in general. If it’s PGE1, this could be helped with by using tri- or quadmix.

There also may be a correlation between those injecting few times per week (and slower but persistent growth) and those hammering at it every day.

Many reconstitute in pure DMSO. However, many have also developed ED in the process. If you decide to go this route, reconstitute in pure DMSO and then dilute with bac water. Personally, I’m sticking with IM injections, sub-q to the fat pad, or topicals. Based on many who have documented their results, the potential gains from pinning your dick are often minimal and not worth the risk.

Thanks
I haven’t read anything posted by anyone who ended up with ED from pinning. I’m not doubting it, just never heard anyone say it happened to them. Not permanent ED anyway.

Anyone else thought of using a Dermal Pen to get rid of scar tissue and regrow collagen? I bought one cheap off a website and have done it all over penis and where the ligament is. Seems like it kind of worked. Takes about 6 weeks to see results if you get them. Doesn’t hurt that much either depending on needle depth.

I wonder whether the ED is related to PGE1 alone or injecting in general. If it’s PGE1, this could be helped with by using tri- or quadmix.

There also may be a correlation between those injecting few times per week (and slower but persistent growth) and those hammering at it every day.

My impression reading all the chem PE threads over the years is that people develop tolerances to PGE1 but that it does not cause ED and the tolerances go away with time off. I’m not ruling out the possibility I could be wrong. But imagine the lawsuit potential if drug manufacturers were selling a drug that caused permanent ED. Or Dr Adams. I would imagine the first thing these guys did was make sure that PGE1 wouldn’t cause ED.

My impression was always that the people who got ED problems were the people who screwed around with DHT. It always seemed obvious to me that applying the primary sex hormone directly to your balls would cause hormone shutdown and therefore ED.

But certainly no harm in using trimix. If I could get it I would just for the PGE1 pain factor.

What do you consider permanent ED? Many users report that while using PGE1, they become dependent on it and cannot get erect without it. To me, that’s not something I am willing to risk.

OMG! had ED even after stopping a heavy PGE1 routine and starting testosterone patches. However, he still used what he considered “maintenance” doses of PGE1 and was unable to get a natural erection with testosterone levels over 1000 from the patches. There’s really not enough information to determine why he had ED - but it wasn’t from low test. It could have been the PGE1, it could have been low E2, high E2, or a number of other hormone related issues. We’ll never know, because he never did the appropriate diagnostics. He really shouldn’t have been screwing around with his hormones, because it was clear he had no idea what he was doing. I found this to be very ironic, because his log was posted on a steroid focused bodybuilding forum. All the information was there. He simply chose not to put in the effort to do the research on hormone supplementation and the impact on the HPTA, despite his ED issues.

I thought you said Stagestop had ED before he started Chem PE. The thing I found in common for people with ED was the topical DHT applied close to balls, not PGE1. It seemed each and every guy who did that got problems. In contrast, every day probably thousands of guys inject PGE1 because their doctors think it’s safe. Ronielle of course was injecting all kinds of crazy shit in his dick so he’s a different story.

I feel good about PGE1 for, say 6 months, being careful to very injection site and incorporating regular massage. But I would never touch exogenous DHT with a ten foot pole.