Originally Posted by maverick_1977
Is there some kind of ejaculation control, so I can keep going hard and fast without cumming and the need to slow down ?
This is an interesting and important twist to the premature ejaculation problem. So thanks for asking the question. I often have the same difficulty, largely for the reason Avocet offers in his thoughtful post above. I’m certain that many other men do as well. Consequently, I don’t have any definitive advice to give to you on the subject. But I did want to make a few suggestions.
First, keep tinkering with the edging and the kegels. In particular, as Avocet suggests, work with these techniques within the context of your sexual relations with your partner or partners, not just when masturbating. Ejaculation control is different in each case, but edging and kegels are proven techniques, so they very well may be able to take you farther than you’ve got already.
Two, a glass or two of wine (or some other spirit) often helps me. I don’t like suggesting this, because I do not drink much myself. But the plain fact is, it works. At least, it works for a number of men. Without any edging or kegeling or other “training,” I couple of drinks has often meant for me the difference between a few minutes and up to an hour or more. But as is obvious, don’t drink too much, or you’ll suffer the reverse problem. Fortunately, my erections stay strong even after a couple of drinks. But I don’t like to rely on alcohol for anything. So this is at best a kind of weekend thing for me.
Three, another chemical suggestion: Some men here use Viagra on an occasional, recreational basis to promote stronger and longer erections. I’ve never tried this myself, but you’ll find a lot of discussions of this use here if you do a search. However, all admonish: This is only for occasional use. It does not appear that the drug itself is very dangerous (barring certain circumstances, as has been in the news recently!). But the men here who use it recreationally point out that it can become psychologically addicting, in the sense that sex without it may come to seem below par and disappointing. (On the chemical front, some men also say that marajuana helps the ejaculation control. But in my experience, this has not been the case.)
Four, you may want to explore different styles and moods of sexual intercourse with your girlfriend(s). The main issue seems to be that she needs it fast to be able to orgasm during intercourse. I have known many women who had acquired the belief that intercourse needed to be fast and hard to be great. This was really the only sort of “good” sex they knew. But to quote another girl I know, “To go fast is good; to go slow is even better.” Slow, emotionally and psychologically deep sex is absolutely fantastic, when it is done right. The women I have known have had much more intense orgasms from this kind of sex. But it requires patience on their part. You often have to “tease” the woman into an orgasm: bring her to the edge, but don’t let her go over; do that again and again, until she is beside herself. Then, almost anything will make her cum. And just like with your edging, when she does cum, it will be rocket-launching! But be careful: Don’t let her turn off because of frustration; you need to keep the intensity up, and in part this requires the appropriate attitude on her part—she needs to learn to appreciate and enjoy this style of sex. The ideal, I suppose, is to incorporate both styles of intercourse.