8 x 6 Envy

Titleist - more on anti-selection:

http://www.mans ized.co.uk/answ … -penis-size/a15
What’s the average penis size?
by Dr. Petra Boynton

<section on average erect size from various size studies>

Before you reach for the tape measure, it’s worth knowing that most sex researchers and therapists don't trust these figures.

The reason? They’re based on measurements from laboratory studies where men knew they were participating in research to see how their knobs measured up.

This means guys who were worried about size were less likely to participate, whilst guys who thought they had big schlongs were more than happy to waggle them under researchers noses.

So most researchers, therapists and doctors suspect the ‘average’ penis size figures obtained in research (and widely quoted) are at least an inch larger than they should be. This is because

research on penis size is skewed in favour of men who are happy to be measured.

That’s partly why you sometimes see a range of penis sizes given (as I did at the start of this answer) rather than the mean size, which is unreliable. If you really want a mean measurement then probably 5 inches when erect is more likely than 6 or 7 inches.

Further in the article:

The reason sex therapists or medics are unwilling to discuss penis size is because men are still often not satisfied to hear their penis falls within an average size range - they want to be bigger than average.

Even if you tell guys they're okay, often their body image worries means they're still anxious. A recent US study showed that men seeking penis enlargement consistently overestimate the average penis size of other men and drastically underestimate their own size.

Men get penis hang ups since they usually only see other penises in the changing rooms or toilets - where they view their dick downwards and everyone else's front or side on making other guys seem bigger. Or they compare themselves with porn stars, where the actors are specifically chosen for their size - and filmed from flattering angles.

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That’s not to say that size worries don’t do a lot of damage to many men. Worrying about your penis can lead to relationship problems, avoiding sex or relationships, erectile dysfunction (not being able to get it up) or premature ejaculation (when you come too soon).

If you’re worried about your body or sexual performance, you can get advice from the Sexual Dysfunction Association.

If your worries are severe, your GP can refer you to a psychosexual therapist who can unpack where your problems come from and reassure you you’re okay (there is a waiting list for this service).

Alternatively, you can self-refer to a sex therapist although you’ll have to pay for this therapy. Have a look at the British Association of Sex and Relationship Therapy website.

It’s common for men to have an occasional worry about their penis size - after seeing a bigger guy at the gym, following a negative comment from an ex-partner, or perhaps after reading somewhere you should have a bigger dick. Some gay men also report being under pressure to be big.

Research indicates it’s more common for younger or sexually inexperienced men to have size worries and, with time, these worries reduce. However, for some men it continues to be a problem throughout life.

Guys should start challenging a society that makes them feel they’re only a sexually attractive and functioning person if they have a slightly longer knob.

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NOTE - this is a UK source so the medical groups referred to are in the UK

As another thread that I started makes the point that a cock looks bigger if the rest of the body looks in good shape. It’s a matter
of the whole package. Anyone interested in the whole body package see this thread on this forum:

Post full body pics here

Keir

That’s a clean clear way of putting it, Mr. Happy.

Additionally, I think this anecdotal report from Firegoat is worth revisiting in response to a claims that there are “Lots of 8x6’ers out there”

I’m combining these three posts:

firegoat - Do girls like big dicks
firegoat - Do girls like big dicks
firegoat - Do girls like big dicks

What puzzles me about threads like this is that, rather than being relieved that the playing field is actually a bit more level than originally feared, people fight the idea.

As if they’d rather believe there are hundreds of thousands of 8” dicks out there wantonly having their way with all the women they can’t have.

It’s not true. Really.

Lot’s of women don’t want to deal with the upper limits of size, or at the very least have to become acclimated to it and only do so when they have a stake in the relationship.

Sure sometimes they are curious about having a big one, but on balance sex, for most women, is about a whole lot more than put Tab A into Slot B.

oz, another great anecdote from someone who has literally had their hands on the raw data, claiming that approximately 8x6BP is up there with the biggest.

Ever banged a chick that worked on a cruise ship Titleist? :)

I am envious of those guys with two penises. :nodding:

Mr. Happy: It is weird, isn’t it? That bar graph of Kinsey data that firegoat cites is worth looking at and thinking about. Especially because we know the data was self reported and probably exaggerated.

http://wwwu.edu .uni-klu.ac.at/ … ck/answer19.htm

I think that the baseline thinking for most guys is "Everybody’s Dick is Bigger Than Mine."

Of course I am generalizing from my own thoughts, so maybe I am the one. But with that disclaimer:

— Part of it comes from the foreshortened view of our own units.

— For me, much of it came from not understanding the concept of "Shower vs Grower" when I was young and showering with other guys in school. I am a grower — so I assumed that if my erection was almost 3 times the size of my flaccid, then that must be true of EVERYBODY.

Even now if I see a big showy flaccid at the gym, my brain wants to think the same thing.

My personal demon is girth. Fine, I am going to make it bigger.

But you have to keep a realistic view of these things or you can make yourself go crazy.

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Along those lines I highly recommend taking a visit to the grocery store and picking up some cucumbers of various girths. Take them home and measure them. You may be surprised how big 6+ girth actually is (unless of course you have 6+ inches of girth). Now, try sticking that cucumber in your mouth - interesting reality check.

HA HA, you big show-off ;)

You’re hardly alone on that score.

Nature’s attempt at keeping us humble, perhaps? :D

You go.

Nothing wrong with having personal goals. :)

This is most of the point I try to make. Regardless of our goals, we should stay rooted in reality.

It’s ultimately a better way to go.

It’s an approach.

I had a girlfriend who had what she thought was a very big dildo. The way we measure around here it would be a 5.5” X 5.5” (solid girth from base to head). She had ideas about strapping it on and having her way with me.

I explained that I’m not that adventurous as yet, or ever really. But I did oblige her with a ‘blow-job’ test.

I have a pretty big mouth - certainly for a woman anyway - and let me tell you: I could barely get the glans in. Granted I don’t have the practice that many women have, but still…

It wasn’t at all comfortable.

People watch porn and think that Shane Diesel has a great life. I bet he almost had to go in to porn to get laid.

Certainly to get properly laid. A guy like him requires a professional, I’d say.

Good point about Shane Diesel.

On so many levels porn is a fantasy, like the very best damn Disney movie you ever saw as a kid. People tend to forget that.

Sizesurvey has the only data I’m aware of on this so there is unfortunately only one source to go by, but in that poll of 3100+ guys it came up with a 2 to 1 ratio advantage in number of hookups for guys 7” and longer over those under 7” in length. Of course the 2 to 1 ratio is just an overall as we are all aware that there are some guys with smaller dicks who have more partners than some guys with bigger dicks. I do think there is bound to be some correlation but how close to the truth that ratio is I don’t know. I’d love to see more data on this if anyone is aware of any.

I’ve known a couple of hung guys who’s big dicks came them tremendous confidence. They loved to boast about it and were putting it to women all over town, even in a workplace it happened before my eyes as one worked where I did and I saw him leave with a new secretary ( she had only been there a week or so) at lunchtime one day. One of the other guys in the place who had been interested in her and was thinking about asking her out on a date said as they were driving off “Well, that’s that. He’s taking her off to long dick her.”. And that was that indeed.

On the other hand I’ve known a couple of guys who came right out and said they had small ones but it wasn’t stopping them as they hooked up with chicks left and right. I use to feel a bit awkward to go out clubbing with one of those guys with the small dicks as he was so good looking that I would hardly get any attention from the chicks when he was around. I’ve overheard myself rated as an 8 on a scale of 10 by a few ladies but he was no doubt about a 9.5 to them. I didn’t know about PE back then so I didn’t have a flaccid bulge. A good flaccid bulge would have helped me get some of the attention away from him with at least some chicks. :)

Seriously, I need to meet some of these women who sleep with a guy just because he’s showing a big bulge or is known for having a big dick. Haven’t met one yet. Where do these women hang out?

Well at least in my town there is a large manufacturing plant with hundreds of employees. If you are known to be the largest or second largest guy in the plant you have about 12-20 women ready for your cock unless you are seriously deficient in other areas. In fact the big dick guy is now, after working his way through all the hot girls in the factory, shagging the top executive of production. I’d add though that the guy is not just known for being big but being like a fuck machine as well. His rise to fame started slow but once all the girls knew he was the biggest and largest it seemed to take on some sort of legendary status. I personally know three hot women that had sworn up and down they didn’t care about his dick, were disgusted he was ‘such a dog’, and that they would NEVER sleep with him. Guess what, they did. Now these girls from this factory all hang out in the same two or three clubs with other women from the town. It didn’t take long until they all knew about his size and capability and so his notoriety spread throughout the town.

I personally became more aware of the desire for size as I got involved with women that were more sexually adventurous and wanted to do all kinds of positions. Doing missionary position I had no problems giving it to women well. Doggie style I do fine most of the time but depending on the girl and how she positioned herself and the overall environment it is more difficult. Other positions, particularly during threesomes where I don’t always get to see and control what is going on, are tough for me to pull off at 5.5” in length. It’s just fact. At 8” I”m sure moving between positions if the woman is not in an easily accessible position is going to be easier.

The main question I think really begs is that do women prefer men with a 5.5” x 4” penis or a 7” x 5” or even 8” x 6”?

My bet is that many women will prefer the 7” x 5” over 5.5” x 4” regardless of what is average or if 10 in 100 men have that or 1 in 100 have that. I don’t need statistics as I know plenty of women personally that have told me anything under 6” doesn’t really do it for them. This is as they believe that I’m over 6” because as it has been pointed out women do tend to over estimate length if you’re not pretty small.

I do believe that 8 x 6 probably is 1 in 100 but as another poster mentioned, that means in a town like mine with say 7,500 men that means 75 guys have that kind of size. Remember though that where I live only TWO guys are really getting a lot of tail because they are considered huge. So what size must these two guys be if we assume they are beating out 73 guys that are statistically 8 x 6 or larger? Or do I happen to live in a small dick town where 7498 men have 7” or smaller penises and these two guys are simply 8 x 6? I will point out that there could be a guy with a 9 x 7 dick who has been happily married and nobody but his wife knows or cares what he has.

The funny thing about this thread is we are mostly all on here because we want to be larger. If we didn’t think it would make us better lovers or more desirable then why are we doing it? If smaller dicks were preferred then why is the porn industry not stacked with guys with the smallest dicks they can find rather than the biggest? While I agree the porn industry offsets the averages the fact that porn production typically goes for bigger dicks tells you something about what our culture is craving when it comes to sex.

Who said 1 in 100 was 8 x 6? Where are you getting that statistic from? Probably more like 1 in 500. (Priapologist had a good thread)

As for my comment, it was satire on the notion that having a big dick is such a strong factor in getting you laid. I’ve been 8” in length since I was a senior in high school and have never gotten any action from size queens. I think it has more to do with the fact that everyone who isn’t “large” thinks the larger guys are always out getting laid by everyone, which I wish was the case.

From experience I think penis size is a moot issue, unless it’s way on the end of either spectrum.

How was this data gathered and sorted, I wonder?

I just can’t believe this site, beenthere, and I don’t understand why you do.

As far as I can tell beenthere the gist of the rest of your post is that you feel never got the action you deserved because of your size.

I’d say it was your imagination and self-confidence that was lacking.

In bold is what I find relevant in your post: tremendous confidence vs I use to feel a bit awkward. I realize I’m taking them out of context, but bear with me.

Guys that boast about their size are basically playing the ‘cocky’ part of ‘cocky & funny’. They’re also talking about sex, which is taboo and exciting, and they’re teasing the woman in question that they might be missing out on something special; this stuff is the funny part. Intriguing, tantalizing; done right women eat that shit up.

The truth is you don’t have to have any significant size to do this well. And if the woman in question likes what happens, you don’t have to have significant size to make it happen again.

There are relatively few true size queens out there who really need a big dick.

They need the excitement, they need the self-confidence, and they need to have a good experience in the sack once they get there. Your own story suggests, you don’t have to be ‘packing’ to have that kind of success.