About flaccid gains

Hello guys,

So I’m about 2 months in to the beginner routine, up to 10 min stretching and 300 jelqs on my working days, as well as kegels and supplementing with the bath mate 12-15 minutes on work days.

Erect gain is the main goal here, but I would really like to see some flaccid gain too. Is there anything missing from my routine that could give more flaccid length and especially flaccid girth, or will I naturally see these over time and don’t need anything else?

That’s going to be naturally over time. I mean that’s really all there is to that.

So there’s nothing to accelerate the process? And is water pumping doing anything for me in any sense, as far as flaccid, erect, or training my penis not to turtle?

Nothing accelerates flaccid gains. Mainly because what you’ll gain flaccid isn’t guaranteed, it’s based on your biology and how your penis will restructure as you gain. Everyone can’t turn into a shower, they simply will not.

Water pumping this early usually slows down Newbie Gains. I’d tell you to ditch the water pump for now, if it were up to me. But this is your decision.

I would stop water pumping. After I stopped using my bathmate and got a heat lamp to use for my warmup my length shot up like crazy. While I was water pumping I was gaining nothing basically.

Take the advice from the above guys :) I myself am very new to this, and was debating a pump but believe these guys know what they are talking about, just look at thier gains.

Ditch the pump and just take the newbie routine nice and steady, do not rush it because it will only end badly :(

The water pump is only going to be temporary…at least for awhile and even then it won’t be that much of a gain. You can’t use your flaccid anyway. I do however understand where your coming from it’s an insecurity that I deal with too. I usually pump before I put on a bath suit but that’s starting to not bother me as much anymore. I’m working on letting go of insecurities as part of my PE goals.