Below average guy looking for some inspiration again

So I’ve been lurking around here for sometime now, I’ve posted in the past with some minor questions etc but am now starting to seriously get into PE.

I’m significantly below average in both length and girth. Currently at about 4.0” NBPEL - 5.00” BPEL length and maybe 3.5 - 3.75” in girth but need to confirm this at some point. I guess I’m just trying to find people who are or have been I’m my position, who could offer guidance and reassurance I guess, if any of those people exist haha! My friends have always told me “size doesn’t matter” but coming from people with 6-10” dicks (yes, the majority of my friends are above and beyond average .. Which makes me feel like shit haha)

I’ve been torturing myself lately reading all these things about guys being rejected by women because of size, the ‘is it in yet’ posts, etc etc. I’ve read them all and the issue of a small penis has pretty much controlled the last 3-4 years of my life. I’m 20, I’m still a virgin and have had no sexual experience at all because I refuse to allow myself in that situation, because of the fear of embarrassment and rejection.

I’m in the middle of losing weight, currently at 245 lbs, goal is 182 lbs (The small penis issue has lead to depression which lead to not caring about health etc, vicious circle, but I’m fixing it) which I’m hoping may slightly improve things down there .. Who knows. I know it won’t help with the BPEL but thats fine, I just want the NBPEL to increase somewhat after the weight loss.

Aaaah now I’m rambling haha, but the basic point of this is, I have read so very many posts on here from people who are ‘Small’ although I haven’t seen anyone as small as me yet, If there are any people out there currently who are at/ have been at my size, who want to shed some light/advice, that would be amazing. PE advice and general life advice is welcome :) from people of any size.

Once I’ve lost some more weight I will be starting the PE journey(maybe in the new year), and will most likely set up some sort of daily/weekly diary of things as I go .. If that’s something that is done on here, can’t say I’ve seen a daily journal on here before?

Why not start pe now? What does your weight have to do with it?

It’s a mental thing .. I just want to focus on one thing ATM. I’ve made some amazing progress weight wise (started at 266 lbs)

I just don’t want to overdo it, Plus id rather have a good solid starting NBPEL do see the real gains, not gains made by PE and weight loss together, if that makes sense?

Hey man, welcome aboard! It may seem like everyone here is gigantic (I thought the same when I started looking around), but I think many guys that are on the smaller side starting out just don’t post much. Everyone has to start somewhere and we’re all different. You should definitely start your PE journey now and include that with your new body transformation. My main advice would be this; DO NOT GIVE UP! I’ve only been around here a little over a month but I’ve noticed so many threads where the guys start out with high hopes, but then disappear and probably gave up. This is a marathon, not a sprint. Think of PE this way, it’s a fun hobby and the reward is your dick getting bigger. Don’t go in with mindset of trying to grow 3” in a year, make small steps and enjoy yourself along the way. This is a great community of guys which I’m sure you’ve noticed. Look forward to your posts.

Thanks :) I’m pretty focused, so once I get into a good routine I know ill stick to it! Obviously in the back of my head the goal is gains but .. I know they will not happen fast, so I’m prepared for the long haul. Thanks for the words of advice!

And just another small piece of advice, take good measurements and pictures to start off with (body too since you’re transforming that as well). You don’t have to share the pictures here, but always nice to be able to look back and see where you started and makes it easier to see any gains made.

I will definitely consider it, I regret not taking pics of my starting weight so I will most likely not make that same mistake with PE

I tell you, as someone still at it now, that the sooner the better. I started much smaller than I am now.

My EQ made my size far worse. And I dealt with manipulation regarding size anD EQ from the beginning of my sex life 8 years ago before starting 7 years ago.

My best advice is to push and believe in yourself. Positive change never needs to wait.

That appears to be the general thought .. So I shall start tonight then I guess lol. Better go get reading the noob routine haha.

Your gains are like .. God tier level :) always admired than when I saw you posting around here haha! If I could get half of that, id be the happiest guy alive haha, at least then id be “average”

I just kept trying. I fought demons of inadequacy and pushed to a size that borders on impractical. The best advice I can give you regarding numbers is not to think in numbers at all.

Buy a dildo or vibrator shaped like a penis, say you want to be like this. Then eventually you’ll reach it. I still have my first one and need a new one. Visualize and reach, one day you’ll be it and have forgotten your inspiration and left it behind.

You create the reality you live in. Including a vessel of your choosing. My gains aren’t God-Tier. My perseverance is. True faith in what you’ll create for yourself will be rewarded. This is my guarantee.

Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words!

Sometimes its just hard to not see the numbers, I just feel like I’m the only guy around here who is this small, everyone else is like freaking huge haha which is slightly saddening to think I may be the smallest guy on here :( but it is what it is :) no point sitting around being depressed and shit, wasted the last 4 years doing that haha!

I’m 100% not ready to even think about going out there and “sewing the seeds” etc although everyone is telling me I need to .. I just think the risk of rejection/Embarrassment would be a killer right now.

Honestly, I PE’d for years not knowing how my size stacked up. I purposely ignored signatures when I had the option to read about other guys. The fact remains that even if everyone here was bigger than me when I started that I would still have felt the same about myself because of what I had experienced. Do not let what is true for someone else define your reality. That’s all I took from that.

You are only ready for the things you truly believe you are ready for. And often not even then. You just have to decide when the reward is more appetizing than the risk is terrifying. The fact remains…risk will never fully abate and not only is life always lived with risk at your right hand but safety is usually the most boring and repetitive thing that there is.

I started striking out for women more attractive and younger knowing that rejection stings. I made passes at people I shouldn’t have but…one feeling I didn’t count on was a feeling of freedom. Of knowing I made a move that changed my fate, that I pushed forward and made the effort against all odds and even without success I knew, with each step, I was creating a me that would go after what he wanted instead of fearing the results of never being able to attain it. Because…failures are only steps, friend.

Success, after failure, is simply a matter of time and effort. Faith will keep you putting time and effort in. Results come from true faith in yourself and the fact that what you want is truly worth having in your heart and mind. That truly is it.

Amazing man, thank you :) you truly are a saint man, super wise and genuine advice, and I appreciate it a lot more than you might think .. So again, thank you :)

If I can add some thing to your thread, I started with very similar BPEL and I’m much more confident now that I got some gains. And I regret I didn’t start earlier.

Now taking about sex, remember sex is much more than just your penis size, it’s about confidence, foreplay and the way you act while doing it.
Of course size is something that concerns most of us, but remember that lesbians has no penis and they come and enjoy sex with each other.

Yeah, I’m fairly certain after what everyone has said ill be starting a log today, going to get a dairy or something and do a day by day take on things.

And yes, I know sex isn’t just about size, but my confidence is none existent because of it, its just a vicious circle haha, but thats and issue for a separate time, as of right now I’m just focusing making myself happy :)