FIRST POST- How I got started

I’ll start off when I was younger like 15 I was too scared to go all the way with this one girl that I had liked mainly because I felt too small, I was probably 5.2 NBPEL probably around 3.5 EG. All throughout High School I was a popular/athletic guy but had a major acne problem and felt my dong was small which it was. I played football for a mostly black school and I was the only asian on the football team and few white people so I always stood out on the field but especially in the locker room. Most of them guys on the team was pretty large flaccid and it made me petrified to even take a shower with the team so I just lifted weights after practice to avoid the showers. Cause I know if I was to shower with them I would have been devastated. There were alot of shit talkers on the team, I didnt want them telling all the girls how small I was, then I would be even more ridiculed as the asian with pimples and a small penis. I was still a virgin in self pity with alot of built up anger because of how small I felt. This anger really helped with knocking heads in the football field but I was too scared to knock some boots cause of this small tool.

I was watching real sex on HBO one summer and they had this guy pulling on his dong to make it bigger. This is when I first heard about stretching and PE’ing. This had facinated me because I always wanted to be huge and make the ladies go wow. So I started to tug here and there, didnt know what I was doing and never continuously did anything with it. But I noticed my penis had a flaccid hang now, no more turtle effect and my erect length was 6. So my confidence boosts up because now and after many treatments of Rentin A then to accutaine my face started to clear up. I was 6’0 tall 165 and acne is almost gone and I’m going into college, I met this girl right before college and to make a long story short we ended up going together. Alot of things happened, I will probably post this in the romance section of this forum but I lost my virginity after being with her for 6 months. The first time I put on the condom my unit kept getting limp and no matter what I did it still kept getting limp, so the next day we tried and finally I got it on! I stuck my penis in her and just watched her face open up to my surprise, I thought she would just lay there and not feel anything also because she is black I thought she wouldn’t feel anything under 7.5 (thankfully she was able to enjoy it). It was a success but I lasted all but 3 minutes and now my confidence went down to pity because I didnt last worth shit. But we kept having sex and the first time I made her cum from intercourse was 2 days later, I laughed while we was fucking(joyful laugh) because I thought I would’ve never been able to make her cum through intercourse. She got kinda mad at that becuase she felt I was making fun of her moans and faces but I was just soo happy to make her cum. I made her cum alot from intercourse especially from the first 4-5 months we first started having sex. But after that she stopped cumming from intercourse and I was being insecure in thinking it was my size not being big enough.

I ended up falling in love with this girl and wanted to make her cum everytime, but failed miserably in the intercourse just didnt seem to be good enough anymore. I never asked her about her past bf, because she only had sex with one guy before me but I wondered if I was too small for her. So this is when I expiremented with oral on her and became a master making her cum easily within 5 mins. But the intercourse just wasn’t there for her. She said it was probably her and her feelings were not all there but I felt it was me and I would ask and be blunt about it to. Like I would ask if I was small? And questions similar to that. She always said no and that I was fine with everything I got but that didnt cut it for me. During that time she gave me hints that she wanted bigger like “I wish ypu just got bigger all the sudden especially when we marry”. I just looked at her in shock and she didnt say anything afer that and she knew I was hurt, and it did it’s damage. I started gettin frusterated and looked for anything to be like that guy on HBO and enhance my cock through penis exercises and stuff. When I searched I always would find pills and something you had to purchase. I just wanted to read up on stuff and learn new things for free. But I didnt find Thundersplace until 2 years into the relationship and thats around the time when she broke up with me. I will put into details in another thread.

But I started seriously on a newbie routine. I warm wrap for 5 mins then manual stretch for 15-20 mins then wet jelq for 20-25 mins kegal when I am warming up and when I am watching tv I don’t count how many. When I started I was 5.9BPEL and 5 EG. I didnt gain much early maybe 1/4 an inch then I read up on Bibs LOT theory. Now I stretch in a upward angle and jelq in a upward angle now I am currently 6.6 BPEL and 5.5 EG after 5 months. Not significant gains like some I read on here but hopefully I can come around soon. Is it good now that I stretch at a upward angle because my LOT is a low 6 o clock? I was thinkin maybe I read wrong. And will my LOT be a 9 or somthing after stretching the tunica alot?

Not significant gains?!
0.7” EL and 0.5” EG gained after 5 months is FANTASTIC gains!

As for the LOT, there’s an LOT thread at the top of the Newbie forum that will answer all your questions. :)

Just reading threads where guys gain an inch or more in a month amazes me but at the same time I feel like am I doing somthing wrong here it’s been 5 months and I didnt gain an inch yet. I know different people gain differently and for some it just takes longer. Kinda sucks I’m not a lucky person to gain that inch soo soon.

<As for the LOT, there’s an LOT thread at the top of the Newbie forum that will answer all your questions.>
I posted some questions on Bibs theory thread and newbie forum no reply back yet.

Havent seen that thread, or I would of replied, where is it?

Those guys that have gained an inch in their 1st month, I’d say one of 3 things -

1. Increase of erection quality, not actual gains
2. Awesome newbie gains
3. Are they telling the truth?

Don’t try to compare your gains to other people’s, no one gains at the same rate

Jman,

Good gains! You’ve found a routine that is working well for you and should stay with it as long as it continues. However, keep in mind that LOT is theory.
Testing LOT Theory

Here’s a thread that is important to understand. It deals with indicators dictating when a routine will need to be adjusted.
Physiologic Indictors (PIs) to help growth!

Here’s the thread Jman30 - Bib’s LOT Theory 101

Thanks for the advice

Thanks BeenThere, those are very useful links. What is your take on Bibs LOT theory?

JMan, do not foll yourself.

a .7 x .5 inch gain is a MASSIVE amount of gain in VOLUME.

Volume is what really counts.

For example:

A popular average dick is 6 inches long, and 5 inches in length, so I will use this as my test subject.

If you have 6 inches in length, and 5 inches in girth, your cubic volume is 11.9

Lets say you gain .7 inches in length and .5 inches in girth (like you have). You now have 6.7 X 5.5. Your cubic volume is 16.3 That is more than a quarter increase. You now have 1/4 more of a dick than you did before!

To further prove my point, I am going to use to take all of your girth gains (.5 inches), and add them to your length gains (.7 inches).

So for example 2: you have 1.2 inches of length gains, and 0 girth gains.

This takes you from 6X5 (11.9 in cubic inches) to 7.2 X 5.

This brings your cubic inches to 13.9, an increase of 2 inches in cubic volume. Although this is a lot, it is no where near as useful as the 4.4 increase you made by gaining in length & girth!

This should help you understand more. Good Luck J!

BTW, I second beenthere.

LOT is a thoery.

ModestoMan is trying to approve/disapprove the theory as we speak in this thread: Testing LOT Theory

I, along with most others, believe it to be partially true, but not enough to base a routine off of.

Thanks remek for the encouragement. I guess I get jealous at those fast gainers. Hehe who doesnt? But I guess I did gain a good size especially in girth. Hadn’t had sex in awhile so I didnt get to test it out yet. But the whole LOT theory, the more I read on it the more I get confused. I don’t know how many others get confused to but I don’t know much about the anatomy of the penis. So I don’t know what the hell they are talking about.

Yes, the anatomy of the penis can be very tricky.
I have spent over 30 hours in the last week learning about the penile anatomy.

A really good start to learn more about the penis anatomy is here: http://penis-en largement-manua … -01/anatomy.htm

Thanks remek that diagram helps a bit.

I haven’t gained anything measurable in one month (just under one month). The only thing I’ve noticed is my erections feel stronger and I want to play with my dick more.

Whats your routine and stats heineken? Just keep reading, reading, tugging and measuring and I think you will see the size come along.

Newbie routine, warmup, stretch, jelq. EL:5 7/8” EG: 5 1/8”. Want to start some light pumping but not sure if LA Pumps (cockpump.com) are reliable with international shipping.