How do I know when gains are no longer possible?

As the thread asks, I wanted to know how I can tell when gains are no longer possible at all. Complete end of the line.

I’m asking because.. Well.. I’m kind of scared. I don’t really want to post my starting measurements but let’s just say it didn’t fill much of my own hand at all. It pokes out of my closed hand now but it’s still not a 6x5. I’m on a decon break but I’m nervous that I won’t ever at least be “average”. I’ve seen a few before and after pictures and they look kind of veiny by the end and veins are more visible on mine than before so I fear I’m reaching the end of the line. I haven’t done any advanced stuff like hanging or clamping yet so hopefully those can be my saving graces but I don’t imagine that I’ll end up with a 6x5 that has a bunch of veins bulging through it like it’s ready to burst.

Thanks for any answers you can provide.

Don’t be afraid. Period. Gains are always possible. The body can continue to modify itself to a point of ridiculousness. The question becomes how much time and effort are you willing to put in?

I can say it because I started at a modest size and it took me an age and a half to get to where I am now and gains continue, albeit slowly. There is no end of the line. People simply stop PE when they are done. If you aren’t done, keep going and keep the faith. The faith is the most powerful device you’ll ever have, I guarantee it.

Personally, my vein definition after about 3 years stopped increasing. So don’t use that as some kind of benchmark. Do what you want. Just keep at it, regardless of your starting measurements. You have to believe and keep trying.

I agree.

Yes, gains are ALWAYS possible. I have been doing PE on and off over the past 18 years and have made some really good girth gains this year.

Just like a gym routine, switch things up to get back to gains.

What do you think?

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xeno

This is spot on. Never stop. PE is more of a lifestyle than a goal oriented thing where you “reach a goal then stop.” At least that’s how I view it.
And your body will continue to grow and respond to stimuli as long as you expose yourself to it.

Take a look at BeardedDragon’s progress report thread: BD Update Thread. His starting size was about where you are now: 5.5” BPEL x 4.1” MSEG back in July 2012. His newbie gains were 0.6” BPEL in the first 4 months, pretty typical. After 4+ years of work, he’s reached 7.1”x4.8”, which is above average. After his newbie gain period, he’s been gaining about 1/4” a year pretty consistently.

He’s a great example of what persistence and good technique can do.

Thanks for all the motivation guys! This really takes a mental load off my back to know that it will be possible to get to average and even achieve my final goal. I’m going to try my very best and hopefully I can be a source of motivation for others taking up the task.

I’ll probably set my final goal to 7-7.5 EL to 5-5.5 EG, I want to be able to know what oral is like.

I’ll have to read up on his thread. Where he started is a bit more than what my newbie gains gave me but I’ll do the best I can. Maybe I should make a progress thread as well.