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G’day all,

New old guy here. I’m an aging strength athlete in the US and have been doing PE for probably 15 years, mostly jelquing and pumping.

Reasons — I’m long married, and my beloved wife is a bit of a size queen. The bigger I get, the more she likes it and so do I. Win - win.

Stats — I have a prow-shaped penis, I.e. A rocket more than a walking stick. My mid shaft girth is around 6” and base girth is around 6.5”. Length pushes 7” on a good day, but is usually just a bit shy. I started at 6.25 length and 5.5”ish in girth.

Goals — Near term, I’d like to get comfortably over 7” in length and will be happy if girth improves slightly or stays the same. Long term I would like to achieve 8” in length.

Strategy — I have been on a maintenance plan for a while and just kicked back into forward gear by increasing the jelq volume and adding hanging and manual stretching. I’d prefer manual stretching over hanging, but I’m testing to see what I respond to best.

Happy to be here and to make use of the immense knowledge base y’all have built,

FK

Welcome FullKilt.

Sounds like you’ve got a good strategy, and a good situation where your wife is OK with a quite large cock.

Good luck.

Started out in 2000 at 20 years a old, girlfriend measured my penis length, at 6 3/4 . Discovered jelqing and manual stretching in 2005, been doing it ever since. Got up to 6 15/16 bone pressed and first time I ever measured girth was 5 3/8 mid shaft.

For the last 3 years I have been using the Bathmate and the Sizegenetics along with manual exercises. I went from counting jelques to just doing time. Reached 7 3/4 bone pressed length 5 3/4 mid shaft girth.

Added clamping and SSJ’s 6 weeks ago, and this is how I found Thunders. I’m right at 8 inches bone pressed length and 6 inches mid shaft girth. I love the temp gains from clamping and pumping, I get to 6 1/2 inches in mid girth which is really exciting and motivating , 7 inches base, don’t seem to be gaining length anymore.

I tried Mandingo stretches and aggressive Sizegenetics extending, injured my skin and took a while to heal, the skin kept breaking open and bleeding.

My goal is to lose weight, because I’m 70 pounds over weight, be at 8 1/4 bone pressed length, 6 1/4 mid shaft girth, and find a way to express my hardons to their full potential.

Long time lurker, but decided to finally join and post after recent events.

I’ve always known that I had a “pencil” dick. Was always a little insecure about it, but not too bad. Why? Because the many women I’ve been involved with stuck around for quite a while. I’ve had many friend’s with benefits (FWB) situations and the sex was obviously good enough to keep them coming back. So although I knew I was thin, I made up for it in skill.

I started PE casually about a year ago. I first started with a pump, then got an extender, and recently added a cock ring to the arsenal. I don’t jelq simply because it takes too much of my time. When I first started, I was NBPEL 6.25” and EG 4.5” (don’t quote me on this, because I don’t remember how accurate that was). Since I’ve gotten the pump and extender, I’m now 6.5” and 5”. But again, this was very casual inconsistent usage and I’m not confident in the accuracy of those numbers.

Fast forward to today. Been having problems in the bedroom with my new girlfriend. She kept assuring me that the issue wasn’t me. Because of her reluctance, I’ve never been able to really “go to work” (she only wants to do missionary and be close). Needless to say, neither of us have been satisfied. I kept asking and trying to figure out what’s wrong and she finally dropped the bomb on me. Apparently, I’m the smallest guy she’s ever been with and she has a hard time getting into it with me. Never have I felt so inadequate and insecure. I almost cheated on her just to salvage what was left of my ego (seriously, 3 of my past FWBs contacted me to come over the next night when I was alone, it was difficult to stay out of trouble in my damaged state, because I knew I could satisfy them and they me, and boy did I need that pick me up).

Now that that has happened, I’m getting serious about this. She’s moving, so we’ll be long distance for a while and visiting once a month. My goal is to reach 7.25” x 5.5” by the time we see each other (which is about 5 weeks). I know that’s lofty but I’m going to try (safely of course).

Girth is my main concern. I THINK the pumping got me up to 5” but that was extreme pumping; 12-13 in. Hg. For 15 minutes at a time, I didn’t know that was too much at the time (oh and the 5” is not after a pump, that’s natural now). I’m going to lower the vacuum pressure and rotate between the pump and ring. I plan on starting each session with one hour of extending, and finish each session extending with whatever time I have left before bed. I’m going to try the all day cock ring technique to keep things going when not session.

For the gurus out there, how does this plan sound? Any advice or recommendations?

Welcome to Thunders BoneDr and alkari.

Alkari, I thing your goal of 7.25 x 5.5 in 5 weeks is a little far off, since I’m guessing your newbie gains have well and truly dried up… I’d be surprised if you could do it in 5 months. PE is a long term game, and going for those gains will only end up in injury, and then losing what gains you already have.

Also, I definitely wouldn’t be doing it for her. If she not “into you” now in the early stages of the relationship, she’s definitely not going to be into you when your married, with 3 kids, and a mortgage. PE is something we do for ourselves, not for some size queen… so dump the bitch before you’re well and truly fucked. Long term relationships are a great way to move on, without drama. ;)

6.5 x 5 is by no means small, and as you know, there are plenty of women that will be more than satisfied with that… find one of them and you will have a much more rewarding life.

In regards to your Routine, remember that jelqing is the bread and butter of any Routine. People seem to respond better with a combination of jelqing and pumping, with more permanent gains. Pumping alone is more known for the temporary gains. Also heat is the key to good gains, so make sure you incorporate that into your Routine as well.

And read, read, and read some more… this forum is full of helpful information.

Good luck to you both. :)

This is an interesting story - and a challenging one. I’m not exactly a senior in PE but being 51 certainly a senior in age. I think you deserve a frank answer to your questions.

First: at 6x5.5” you are absolutely not in the pencil dick zone! The fact that you have/had several friends with benefits who keep coming back proves that you have nothing to be ashamed of. Especially the fact that they keep coming back tells you that you seem to have lovers qualities - and that’s much more than only a big dick! Yes, if you look up my stats I might be bigger in dick size and you may think: that’s easy for him to talk like that when he’s in the 8”-range. But that’s exactly the point: it has nothing at all to do with your quality as lover and sex partner. Men usually tend to overestimate dick size as quality.

Second: I guess you will hear quite a few times that you jumped into quite advanced techniques pretty early in your PE career. That is something which usually is not recommended. I mean it’s your dick and if the routine is successful for you, OK, but in general the Newbie routine has a good reason to be recommended. Personally I even recommend to stretch the progress of the Newbie routine from 12 to at least 24 weeks, modifying every 2 weeks or the increase in frequency (days per week) or the time spent for the exercises.
But that’s just me and my conviction that slower is better.

Third: no Jelqing. I am a bit puzzled, I must admit. Jelqing is, in my humble view, the “mandatory and basic” exercise of PE, especially for the first phase. It works on length and girth and I am convinced it is a kind of a “general purpose” exercise especially for the corpus cavernosum. And then you mention jumping into some high-pressure pumping. My recommendation would be pretty different: start Jelqing. And start doing Kegel exercises - that’s a marvelous thing for erection quality.

Fourth and in my view most important: your new girlfriend has said the probably worst sentence a woman can tell a man: “you’re too small”. That is highly insensitive from her and she better should know what damage she has done to your soul and your self-consciousness. I simply can’t believe that dick size is the reason why the sex life does not work. There must be something different in her mind that she does not want to tell you. Maybe she has a kind of a “porn inducted body dismorphic disorder” or she thinks that the quality of sex is directly related to dick size. Well, then prove her that she’s not correct. I mean you have and you are more than “only” a dick - use your strongest sexual organ: the brain. Or she made that terrible statement in order to dump you. at least, you should really talk that statement through because she kind of destroyed your ego - so what does she expect now?

And last but not least, let’s quickly talk about motivation. You have set a size goal (that you want to reach probably as fast as possible). The question is: do you think that the achievement of the size goal will repair the relationship to your new girlfriend? Or do you PE because you want and you can - because you want to improve yourself for you and only for you? Ask yourself - the answer is important.

Wish you patience and consistency - and maybe a little prudence too.

Richard65

Hello Thunders! I´ve begun on my PE journey and I´ve been doing te newbie-routine for about 10 sessions now. Measured my BPEL and WOW. I went from 16.5-16.8 cm to just short of 18cm (6.6 inches to about 7). This felt crazy because I didn´t really believe that this would work. As you could understand I am thrilled and excited to keep going. I have one question though, I haven´t measured girth since starting (I was at about 13 cm) but now I am kind of scared to do it because that I´ve read on some places that what you gain in length could be a loss of girth.

When I jelq I am not sure how it should feel. Sometimes as I do the motion I feel a little sticky feeling in my penis (not pain, more of an intense sensation) so I´m wondering if this is something to aim for? Or is the right way in the beginning just to push blood forward with a little hardness and not feel much at all?
Any more tips on how I should focus on girth? Maybe do a little less stretching and jelq more or jelq with harder erections?

Thanks in advance for answers and thanks to Thunders as a whole, I am so grateful that I found this awesome page.

Welcome to Thunders SS_Hungville.

Don’t get to worried about different exercises, and theories at this stage. Jelqing and stretching is all you need at this early stage.

You should continue with the newbie, (or Linear) Routine for at least 3 to 4 months until your newbie gains stall. This time will also help condition your penis for more advance exercises.

During this time, read up as much as you can here at Thunders. By the time you have finished your 3 to 4 month Newbie period, you will have a better understanding of where to go next, and what area you want to concentrate on.

Your Jelqing technique will improve over time. As long as you don’t grip too hard and keep your erection level around 50 to 70 %, you can’t go too wrong at this stage.

In my opinion, a newbie should take whatever he can get, so enjoy those early gains.

Good luck :)

Hey guys, thanks for the advice and words of encouragement. My girlfriend didn’t tell me in malice, she simply finally revealed the truth. She was actually quite hurt seeing my reaction. I did leave one part out of the story. That night, she finally let go and the sex was actually pretty good. The thing is, given my damaged state at the time, I couldn’t fully enjoy it without the incessant questions, “is she faking? What changed? Am I enough? Is she actually enjoying this?” I wasn’t in a place comfortable enough to truly talk about it yet, but the conversation will definitely be happening.

And believe me, this is for me. I actually became familiar with jelqing when I was 14 years old (I’m 31 now). At one point as a teen, I even asked my doctor when my dick was going to grow. So believe me when I say, this has been a long standing issue with me.. It’s just that this time, it’s actually affected my sex life and relationship. I had already purchased the PE equipment I mentioned before she and I even met. This experience was just a swift kick in the ass to be serious about it.

Also, I’m not a complete novice to PE. I used to jelq regularly, but I need to devote my time to other things; hence I’ve opted to use hands off methods so I can work while extending. Given what’s been said though, I may incorporate 20 minutes of jelqing into my routine. As far as pumping, I definitely overdid it but honestly, I think it may have worked, since I’ve gone from 4.5 to 5 girth; I’m just not confident in my original measurement. And to be clear, the 5” is permanent now. I went almost two months without any PE exercises and have maintained 5”. However, if I measured wrong when I was 4.5”, this is a moot point. Time will tell. I’m keeping track now.

When time allotted, I was able to do 3-5 hrs of extending in a day. My HOPE is that mixing in pumping, ring and yes jelqing, I’ll be able to see results fairly quickly.

As far as the relationship questions, the reason why she didn’t end things before IS because of my brain. Seriously, outside of the bedroom, we couldn’t ask for anything more. We both agreed - before she dropped the bomb - that sex was our “final frontier”. I’m hoping after I’ve healed a bit and spoke candidly about it, things will improve and she’ll continue to let go and actually let me “go to work”.

I admit my goal is lofty and I already know I’m not likely to hit it, however, by setting the lofty goal, I’m going to be that much more serious about maintaining the routine. The only way I have any hope of seeing any sort of increase is through consistent exercise. I will be safe above all else. If it gets painful or I start having a hard time getting/maintaining an erection, I’ll stop and heal. I’m going to push.. But I’m going to push SAFELY.

Similar thing happened here. Got the pencil dick notification via a FWB/GF (we were seeing each other for a year, so pretty much a GF) fucked my best friend and said his dick was “thick”… Well I was about 4.875 - max 5 inches circumference, (but it was probably less most of the time due to EQ, more like 4.75)… She also told her friends I had a “skinny” penis… well fuck that.

You and I have the same goal. 7.5x5.5. I’ve already hit my length. I was about 7 inches to 7.25 and hit the 7.5 as of the other day. But girth is so hard to gain!

Looks like the .5 inch girth gain stuck. I’d like to hear exactly what you contribute most to that gain… Was it pumping, jelqing or what gave you the most gains?

Good luck to you!

Thanks for being candid. It really helps to know I’m not alone in this experience. What was your length before? And what did you do to get to where you are now?

As for me, let me be 100% clear.. I’m not 100% certain about that .5” girth increase given I’m not confident in the accuracy of my original 4.5” measurement. I can’t think of any reason it would be off but I did it casually, so it’s possible I may not have measured properly.

Further, listen to the gurus here and be careful, don’t overdo it.

With that said, I believe what gave me the girth was pumping. As stated before, I don’t jelq because it occupies my hands. I started with low pressure pumps and worked up to 12-13 in. Hg. (Had no idea this was high until I did some reading the other day). I would pump for 15 minutes a day or every other day. Always wanted to go longer, but the fluid build up prevented that and it would sometimes last over 12 hours. Following the pump, I’d massage it for a few minutes or take a shower.

Word of caution, when pumping at pressures like that, it puts a lot of pressure on your pelvic bone and more importantly, will pinch your vas deferens if you’re not careful. It is NOT a good feeling. I haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere, but when you pump, kinda move the cylinder around on your pelvic bone to push the vas deferens out of the way before applying vacuum. I’m a pretty lean guy so it’s pretty easy to feel both internally and with my fingers.

I was about 7 to 7.25 inches in length. Took about 45 to 60 days to reach 7.5 length.

I tried Andropenis for like 3 weeks and the willy kept slipping so I gave up on it until I find a better solution to keep it in there.

I’ve been doing bundled stretches/tunica tugs under hot water in the shower, then some horse440’s (double erect squeezes) and edging for about 15-30 mins after that routine. If you’re not familiar with these exersices check pegym. com and I think they have some explanations there if they’re not on this site.

The girth I MAYBE have gained .1 inches in that time. But I have a feeling it was temporary and probably just EQ related. I’ll have to measure and see, but I don’t want to measure for another 30 days.

Are you 100% certain in actual girth gains though?

Also, ever since then I’ve been sticking some fingers in while banging to give them that “full” feeling.

I guess it’s mostly out of insecurity I don’t want them to realize my actual dick girth LOL but I can tell you I notice a difference… They love it. So for what it’s worth that has helped me temporarily LOL!

This is why I said I’m not 100% certain in my post. Now that I’m serious again, we’ll see what the next few weeks/months hold.

Good luck my friend.

Keep posting about your progress!