When do you understand you are not a Beginner anymore?

Hey. I’ve been doing the beginners routine for almost 2 months. I have not been consistent always but still did the routine most of the days. Now I do 10 mins of manual stretches and about 3 mins of V stretches and 30 mins of Jelqing. I warm up and down for about 10 mins each. The thing that I did wrong was I did not measure myself when I started and do not know If I gained. It looks like I gained but I am not sure. I am planning to make the V stretches for 5 mins, 30 secs on the bottom of the shaft, and 30 secs on the middle of it. I will measure myself now as I am being more consistent these days. How long I can continue this routine, and when I should do some other exercises or routines I see here that are not designed for beginners. Like Mem’s Momentous Rapid Gain, incorporating 440 horse squeezes, Sadsak exercises. Or do you have any recommendations that I can incorporate into my routine. By the next week I am planning to make my routine, 10 mins of manual stretches, 1 min each side, 5 mins of V stretches, and 30 mins of Jelqing.

How about doing a consistent newbie routine using constant heat for 90 days?

Take your measurements now. Take pictures and set them aside to reference how much growth you have. You don’t have to post them here.

What do you mean by constant heat? I am fairly new to the forum. And what I meant by not being consistent is most of the time I was consistent doing 2 days on 1 day off. But sometimes I was 1 day on and 1 day off or 1 day on 2 days off. I was trying to find private time. Should I start over and start from the beginning of beginners routine. Or Should I continue with what I do and be consistent for 3 months?

My consensus on routines (beginner or not) is to “chase the magic dragon”.

The “Magic Dragon” in PE is simply any Positive Indicators or PI’s for short. Such as;
- Morning wood
- Fuller flacids
- Stronger Erections (increased EQ)
- Increased Libido
Ect.

Any routine that continues to produce any of the above PI’s consistently is the correct routine for you. It really should be kept that simple. There is no graduation from beginner to intermediate to veteran, only personal plateaus that some people observe after sometime of doing a routine long enough. As exciting as it is to see 100’s of different exercises and routines around, realistically you should only worry about adding in new things once you notice your current routine is struggling to keep up a steady inflow of PI’s it might at one point have gave you.

I’d start fresh and use a heat source that keeps you warm throughout your routine. A space heater or heating pad.

Morning wood is definetly there. Like I didn’t have before. Flaccids seem fuller. I am not sure about EQ, cause I do not masturbate on the days I do PE. I also do not masturbate on rest days most of the time to let it recover. But both seems higher and stronger. It seems like I gained 0.2 or 0.3 cms. I am not sure if it is caused by PE as I didn’t correctly measure myself before I started. But I was just about 15cms and it is about 15.3 now. I was not sure about my program kinda thought the gain was low but If I gained 0.3 cms It seems ok for what I did. I will continue and measure every 2 weeks I guess. Thanks for the reply.

The PI’s mentioned above should be your guide. Stay consistent with the newbie routine. When you begin to see any of those, you know that your techniques are effective.

When you fully understand the impact of each exercise on you. When you know how to improvise, knowing the costs and benefits of doing so, you are transitioning to experienced status.

I relate it to game IQ in sports. The time frame for this level of awareness can be different for different people.

Finally when you have navigated some injuries and are comfortable modifying exercises as needed to prevent them, and are able to augment an exercise or routine for optimal results, you can consider yourself an expert.

I strongly suggest what Titleist has shared. I know when I really started to commit to PE, I used the shower for “hot work” and still do today (although I am not focusing on girth right now… easy girth gainer…)

You MUST be consistent. If you do 2 on / 1 off / 3 on / 1 off you should keep that cadence. That’s what I did so that the week laid out the same all the time. I was not able to start seeing any real gains until committing to an actual routine. If you’re in newbie mode and take more than the day off, it’s almost like starting at zero again because it’s not a consistent enough workout. You should FEEL the gains, even if they are not yet measurable (takes a long time to get real gains, 60 days is not likely it…) Nobody can describe to you what we mean, damian has a good analogy with the “game IQ”. It’s a feel more than it is a measurable thing. Try more, try less until you find the sweet spot… the zone. everyone’s dick is different and it will let you know!

Positive PI’s like Moosenuckle and Damien said are crucial to winning at this effort. If you are over-doing, you will have fall off of those PI’s, and if you’re not doing enough, you’ll also not see improvements to the PI’s really.

Do you keep heat applied the entire time, or intermittently? Are you applying heat between exercises, heating during the exercise, or just heating before and after?

Throughout the routine. Adding heat promotes blood flow and increases elasticity of tissue, so anywhere you can add heat is beneficial to the process. You do not have to add heat to have gains, but heat will lead to better gains more quickly.

I am primarily a pumper so I wrap my tube with a heat pad to have constant heat during the pump session. Warm up heat can be from a hot shower or other source. Same with warm down.

I am not sure about if I should be doing 2 on / 1 off / 3 on / 1 off or 2 on / 1 off / 2 on / 2 off in a week. Weekdays are the days I can do PE really comfortably. And I will be consistent this time I know.

Just pick a time schedule and try it. If you have negative PI’s, back off. If you dont have negative or see improvement, increase days on.