A question for the "natural biggies"

I begin last week at about 8 inches BP, and I do this because 8 inches BP (probably about 7-7.25 inches of usable dick) is just not really that big, brah.

When you consider the way human society is naturally ordered, that only 40% of men who have ever lived have passed on their genes, that 5% do 90% of the fucking, then average penis size is not in any way an indicator of sexual viability.

80% of women who have ever lived have passed on their genes, but they’ve done that with the genetic material MOSTLY from the top 5-10% of men, so there has always been an upward trend in penis size through our evolution. Thus, as far as women and sex are concerned, average is small, slightly above average is just about plausible, and ‘large’ is actually perfectly healthy and desirable. Deal with it.

Hotzuforzech

I just puzzled how you jumped the gun above the 40% figure (which is a estimate that I encountered before but doubt is close to the real parameter) and how it relates to penis size.

Although I agree with your first paragraph after I realized that adding a thumb to my current NBPEL size (the thumb will form a right angle with the tip of my penis) would bring it to 7” and at least for me this does not appear big at all, it’s enough for me to be happy though and that’s which counts after all.

An interesting scenario, but is it true Hotz?

I did plenty of fucking with more than one woman, and had a passel of kids with a perfectly sexually viable pre-PE “average” dick.

Really, I wish I could have started out with an 8 incher, but not having been born with one, I’m putting in a lot of work to get there :)

I think your theory is flawed by only taking into account the % of men and women that have passed in their genes. I can assure you that you can do plenty of fucking without passing on your genes.

I will agree that the big guys seem to get around. Ask any woman who’s been with more than a handful of guys and there’s been at least one biggie.

I do not agree that we are evolving into having larger penises.

This is my exact reasoning too! Large condoms are slightly loose up toward the head, and I hate that. Everyone knows big girth equals big dick.. Length is far and away secondary.

Joined here at 7” X 5” with the only reason being for the health of my penis not to make it bigger.

Is this just conjecture?

I don’t buy it, and believe in the present modern society the rampant increase in obesity would have made non-bone pressed measurements smaller. Won’t even get into all the hormones and crap food kids been eating that “could” impede male development.

Good point. :)

Any chance of logical debate went out the window at “Deal with it.”

To return to the topic:

I began jelqing a couple months ago after I looked up the word “jelq”, having come across it in a forum on Men’s Health or Esquire or somewhere. I found Thunder’s, and the possibility of getting bigger was enticing - it was just something I hadn’t ever considered (I would have been jelqing for hours a day as a teenager if I’d known). I don’t like fake breasts and I don’t like the idea of a penis implant, but jelqing seems more like weightlifting and doing it doesn’t bother me in the same way that inserting plastic under the skin does.

I was pretty half-hearted at the beginning because - like the thread title says - I’m already pretty big. 7.5in x 5.6in (8in long with bone-pressed). And I’m married and she likes my penis. But I started anyway, at the same time that I started a new weightlifting and exercise routine. After a couple weeks of jelqing 3-4 times per week in the shower (about 20min/session), I started feeling bigger, if only a little bit. One day after sex my wife said something about me being thicker, which she attributed to my weightlifting and working out - “because it got the blood pumping”. I didn’t correct her, but it got me excited to get even bigger. I don’t know how much I actually gained during those weeks, but it can’t have been much - and it might not have been anything physical at all, just more confidence. But knowing that even a small difference was recognisable by the wife was a big boost for me and made me want to continue jelqing with a real plan.

The other thing that motivates me is to be bigger flaccid. I love showing off my package in tight jeans or trousers (always dress to the right because the zipper stitching on the left obscures the outline) - I don’t actually want it to lead to anything, but I do like the glances. It just turns me on to watch a woman’s eyes casually scan my package and then hover for a split-second, impressed with what she sees. Sometimes she looks up to my face and then looks away quickly, or if we’re on public transport she waits until she thinks I’m not looking at her and she takes another, longer look. The best is foreign tourists who treat everything around them as foreign - including me - and they just stare obviously and even talk to each other about me in their language. One French woman said “Whoa - he’s more than enough for me” (in French of course) and even just casual references like a German woman saying to her friend “I see everything” turns me on.

Anyway, the bigger I am, the more reactions I get. An average day I’m about 5 x 4.5 flaccid, which draws a good amount of attention. When I’m close to erect, like 6.5 x 5.25, just about every woman I pass looks at my bulge. I’m slim build and I wear pretty tight trousers, so it just stands out. Even when totally flaccid, it’s pretty obvious. The downside is that it’s hard to hide when I’m in polite company (or with my family!), but I would love to be 6 x 5 flaccid. To be so seriously large seems sort of like a beautiful woman showing off her gym body. She doesn’t have to dress in a miniskirt and tube top to be impressive; it’s enough that she dresses to show off her figure in subtle ways - to see just how great her tits are or her ass is when she leans over or turns to the side. The same thing with my penis: not every woman looks, but when they do I want them to see that it’s big and to be impressed. It just puts you on a different footing with lots of women - a lot of my wife’s friends have noticed my penis at one time or another. Not because I’ve shown it off to them, but just in the course of spending time together they notice it, like how I notice their breasts. Almost all of them look a few times, just to make sure what they’ve seen is real. And a few of them have even talked about it with my wife, which turns me on so much. There’s always great sex with the wife after we talk about other women looking at my penis. (Even now, to be perfectly candid, I’m getting an erection as I write this, just thinking about all those women who’ve looked at me with lust.)

So to sum up what has become a very long post: I jelq because I like pleasing my wife more and I want to be an even bigger (haha) object of desire. Other guys please respond - this is the most interesting thread on here for me to read.

Cathyr, I have the same erect and flaccid stats as you but I don’t appear as if I’m hung inside a pair of trousers or jeans unless I get a semi. I’ve had glances from women too when that happens. Can’t say it makes me more attractive though. The glances seem more morbid curiosity than anything else.

Bpel 7.25

Eg 4.8

Hey bogtrotter - not sure what the difference could be. Maybe my testicles, which tend to scrunch up quite a bit even when not cold and act as a sort of pad for my penis. Or maybe just the trousers I pick: pretty skinny legs (Euro-size 48, which is 32 inch waist). As I wrote, I almost always dress to the right, which makes a difference. And I never wear underwear - that might be it? Haven’t worn it for 15 years and I forget that most people do.

As for women’s reactions, they seem mostly to correspond to my attitude: when I’m embarrassed by my bulge, then they usually see it as embarrassing. When I’m proud, some women might think I’m a prick (haha) but others like it. And when I pretend not to know that it exists, most women don’t notice, except for those who can’t resist checking it out and do it on the sly (those are my favorite).

I have known for years that my package size placed me in the top range of size. I saw my biological father is the shower at work when I was in my early 20s. He was quite large when flaccid also.

I have been with many women sexually. All commented about my erect size. I have investigated many studies on penis size, and was aware that my size put me in the top 5-10 %. I have only had one female refuse to take my erection into her vagina.

When younger and we would go “skinny dipping” , I was given the nickname of “pony.”

I have been married twice. The first time widowed, and the second divorced. I never had any complaints in my first marriage. She would orgasm nearly every time.

In my second marriage, she told me that I was the biggest that she had had, especially girth wise. When things turned sour in that marriage, she told me that she had complimented me to make me feel good. Of course that was very emasculating, and caused me some problems for several years afrer the divorce. That is no longer true today.

I’m 7.3/7.1 npb x 5.5 to 5.75 depending on EQ, hang about 4.5 flaccid. I’m 5’8, and really slim (31 inch waist) which makes it stand out more than it would otherwise. I’ve never considered myself big, especially after years of porn, I though I was small. I still don’t think of myself is big. First time I realized I was above average was seeing penis stats from surveys (I have never been in a locker room).

Reason for PE is just like everyone else, to get bigger. Pure greed. I’ve gotten reactions from women, and I crave more. I want shock and awe. I want girls to get wet on sight because of my dick. I want to be even larger flaccid (maybe 6 inches) so that girls will ogle me openly. I know that cock size matters and I want more of that power, pure and simple.

But also, for me, and maybe others in the 7 inch range, I want to get to the point of being “huge” or just knowing without a doubt “I’m big”, not just “above average”. I want to get that qualified stamp on my dick that says “hung”. I would say that point would be 8 inches for me. My personal goal is 9 x 6, anything above that would be great and I don’t plan to stop.

Joined at 7.75x5.75.

My ex cheated and that dealt a blow to my self esteem.