After looking at all these dicks

LMAO. Walter. It’s not offensive to me. It’s incredibly funny though. Caught me off guard in a good way. I love humor. Brother, I’ve always let others be. Read my threads. I’ve only responded. I am willing to listen if you’ll quote where I attacked someone ok. Quote it here. Now, it cannot be a response to someone accusing me or addressing my behaviors ok. It has to be a malicious, “you’re a liar” thread. I am all about what works for me. I’m defending it relentlessly it seems! I’m also about helping others who seek it. It should not diminish what you do brother. Wow, I do NOT believe that TP is all fake. I’m posting and documenting brother. I DO admit there’s a whole lot of swimming to find the shore though. Mods, please allow this as the emphasis is needed: FUCK yes, I believe in the possibility or I would not be here! FUCK, FUCK, yes. Please don’t doubt that. Otherwise, I’m just a weirdo with a weirdo agenda. I am active and actively trying for all to see now ok. Can you not at least see that. Put in 1.2 hours hanging today while typing most of this today. You WILL GET TO SEE as I go along.

Guys, as I go, please give me the respect of directly answering. I am not malicious. I am a decent human being ok.

There is bold for emphasis. I just asked you to not write in capital letters and you gave shit to this request.

I had tried and failed at PE for many years. About half my life I have been failing at PE. Yet I kept believing it was possible. Pictures or no pictures I believed people on Thunders in general. I just find it hard to believe that so many people would be in on a cruel joke or be delusional.

I could tell by the way some people write that their intentions are good. I could be wrong but you can kind of tell when someone is delusional. This might be bad of me but please read polly123’s thread and you will get an idea of delusional.

The issue with pictures and progress logs is that even if 250,000 people joined today only a small percentage are going to post a picture. Only a small percentage are going to start a log. In my opinion of the 250,000 people only a very small percentage are going to see gains. This is not because PE doesn’t work. This is because most people lack the consistency and perseverance to make a change in their life. That is the honest truth.

I am a master of lacking consistency and perseverance. Monty71466 if you are honest with yourself you know that you also are a master of lacking consistency and perseverance.

Hanging worked for me. However, I think I found the right technique at the right time. The right time was my wife devastated my life by cheating on me. If my wife hadn’t cheated on me, my story would be very different. I would probably stop by once or twice a year. Maybe half ass pull on my penis for a month or two and then quit when I don’t see results.

When I originally took my pictures they where for me. They where not for other people to see the light of PE. I figured they would be a tool to chart progress and it would almost shame me into pushing myself. I could have very easily not taken pictures. I don’t think most of us here start PE with the intention of showing other people that it works.

Now I feel like a convert to a cult. I want to share the message of PE. But that is not how I felt a year ago. However, I didn’t really doubt that it worked a year ago. To many people are sharing their struggles and writing from their heart. Plus their isn’t ads all over the place with people trying to hawk products. I have seen cheesy Internet reviews. When some people tell their stories here, they are laying the insecurities of their lives out for others to read. Most people don’t make up things like wife says she isnt attracted to me anymore.. my fault

Maybe that faith in it and finally being consistent allowed me to see it through.

I know that in your situation you are looking for something that works. However, you have admitted that you gained in the past and then lost those gains. In my opinion just repeat what you did to gain but do it longer and more of it. If something worked for you before why not keep doing that until it doesn’t work.

Thing is, you are not saying anything that you haven’t said over and over. Yes, we know you won’t listen to the advice of anyone who doesn’t post a perfect set of measured dick pics. That is your prerogative.

So far, that is all you have really said here on the topic of PE, and it would appear, on Betterman, and on Pegym and probably on MOS as well but I’m not going to sign up there to look.

I’m sure you do understand that people do PE for themselves, not to prove to others that it works. That in fact while it is perfectly logical to take measurements for ones own records, the only reason to take measured pics at all is if you want to show them to others, which in fact most guys do not want to do. Hence there are not many perfect sets of measured pics out there.

Yeah, Monty is being civil so far. He does need to stop telling others to “not postulate” unless he wants to stop postulating also. ;) Trimming your edge back Monty would probably result in others trimming back also.

I personally regret not taking pictures when I began PE, but not show others or prove anything. I know what I have gained, and know others who have too simply because we shared posts together while doing different exercises.

I get private messages from new members and old asking what I did to gain. And I tell them.

Not once have I been challenged to provide picture proof. We all tend to trust reasonable results when clearly people have put in the time and effort.

Try doing that Monty, then you might not be quite so skeptical.

Ok cool glad I made you laugh I had to take my chance with this idea!

What I’m saying with “leave others be”, is just don’t question them so much and ask for pics all the time, if you don’t believe someone, or if he looks really full of poop as Dld, then I guess it’s ok to share your view on it, otherwise there’s no point in stopping by. I don’t think you really offend anyone, but from the few posts I’ve read here it seems it can be annoying.

If you believe into it, and have been convinced that it is all about what works for you, then what do you need the pics for? The routines of these guys probably won’t do you any good, what matters is finding 1-3 exercises that you like, stick to them, read the less is more and physiologic indicators threads and it’s all you need really. Be consistent with one routine, start low, be happy to make your penis healthier (that should the first positive thing about PE ), increase intensity overtime and that’s it.

As firegoat suggested, a long deconditioning break would be beneficial.

Just chill out as well, if you’re happy about your life, your wife loves, there’s no need to prove us anything, and trying your best doesn’t mean trying all the successful routines, do your PE everyday for years, or hang 3 hours everyday!

Sure makes sense. Maybe we can improve this for other members?? I’m trying. I just mentioned this very thing to someone. In the member’s only progress forum, there are quite a few awesome starting pics and stories from promising new guys. I HOPE to heck they continue the journey and continue posting. I feel they are the future value and have already naturally begun the documentation process. Heck, anyone trying to gain can be a “beginner” as of now.

As a side topic but kind of related. Do you think someone here would be up to writing an app or a add on to the site that would be basically the database on steroids?

Allow users to put what they did daily or weekly in regards to PE. Methods such as jelqing, stretching, clamping, hanging, ADS, extender. Even down to individual variations such as BTC vs OTS. Then have time spent, weight, amount of tension, reps, sets and so on.

Imagine a database that has a daily tracking of routines combined with measurements over time. I think this would answer a lot of questions or at least create more theories in regards to optimal routines. Then if people want to add pictures it would allow you to view routines and like a dating site allow you to filter out results by pictures. Just kidding on the dating part.

Reasonable for sure. I promise and I’m trying. Hackles are up right now. :O)

What the Hell happened to this place? You’re all acting like children, over dick picks!

Yes, it’s always helpful to look back at those pics in the future especially if you’re struggling like I am. Are you new to the PE realm? I’d encourage you to post your pics as of now in your progress thread. I bet your traffic and influence increases. I mention because you express regret. Alleviate that now buddy. I am PE skeptical because I’ve exhausted myself trying. Read through my posts. I have further detailed the Jelq part based on a request. Mr. A-Unit, I hope you realize that I am not challenging you specifically. There is a feeling of challenge out there and I understand the defensiveness of it. I am not the typical guy who posts. I’m trying to weather this storm in the hopes it’ll provide value in the end.

What the Hell happened to this place? You’re all acting like children over dick pics !

What will provide value in the end is doing PE and not being skeptical of PE. I got modest gains from jelqing. It wasn’t until I began pumping with heat that my gains took off. The proof I have is seen daily in the morning when I’m still amazed with my morning wood and every time I pee I can see just how much my flaccid has changed.

Seeing others pics didn’t and any girth or length to my dick; consistent PE did.