Originally Posted by marinera
I don’t see any backup for that TungestMen.
Originally Posted by capernicus1
Yeah right women love the skeletal junkie look !
Originally Posted by Titleist
He’s very young guys. Some day he will learn.
The link I gave presents the ideal body fat % as 12%. Look up pictures of guys at 12%. It’s not even that low. It’s around the point where most people start to show visible abs without needing to flex. Keep in mind how guys store fat varies. I store most of my fat in my: lower back, face and abs in that order.
When fat is stored on the face it makes the face look rounder and less defined. Are you guys seriously saying it doesn’t?!?!?! The easiest way to tell a person’s body fat is their face. Just look at how well defined their jaw line is. Very easy. Takes 1 second. Very hard jawline ~6% or under, hard jawline ~10%, some jawline ~16%, no jawline 20%, moon face at 25%+. I’m not gay or anything but hard jawlines look the best on men. Very hard is moving into the unnatural side.
If you guys compare men vs women you’ll see that having a defined jawline and chin is a male feature. I should also add in a defined brow line along with cheekbones. Women have more fat and hence facial fat. Combine this with them lacking the distinctly male facial structure. Having a high body fat % covers the face up and makes the underlying structure unnoticeable.
Hard features are distinctly male. Compare the facial structures of male and female athletes (to compare “athletic” body fat levels cross sex). Now compare the faces of the female athletes to the the average USA man. The average female athlete will have a “better defined” jawline (really average man = moon face and average female athlete = no jawline).
***My experience***: When I was 17 I believed the lies that I was “fine” even though I was fat. I was 190 lbs at 6’ 2”. Not fat you say? Well I had a 34 inch waist (measured at the belly button). My arms were 13 inches of fat. In my first semester of college I lost fat and dropped down to 160 lbs at 6’ 2” which reduced my waist down to 28 to 28.5 inches. My face looked *radically* different. I mean so much so that I looked like a different person. I still have the picture of myself when I was 17 on my drives license. No jawline / borderline moon face for sure. When I was 160 lbs I’d say I had hard/some jawline for sure. Looked a lot better. People would make a lot of comments as well as to how different and better my face looked.
***Now***: I’m still 6’ 2” but I’m 232 lbs. My waist is 31 inches so I’m much less fat than when I was 190 lbs. Jawline has decreased slightly and I’m just a little better than some jawline. I gained a lot of muscle mass over the years so my 190 lbs drivers license photo makes my face look fatter than my current 232 lb face. I started a cut a couple days ago and I’m going to go down to 9% body fat or so. Should take some time.
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My point & why it relates to the fat pad***: I’d say 100% of you guys started
PE to improve yourself (pretty dumb and obvious observation
:) ). My point is that reducing body fat solely for the differences in facial features is more important than an extra 1 inch in length and 0.5 inches in girth. Makes the face look more masculine, people are more friendly towards you, women are more attracted to you (10x this), etc.
Reducing the fat pad like *WangZ* said is also very important. It’ll make your dick look a lot bigger for sure. That’s a fact. The guys in porn have thin fat pads.
If you’re 9 inch BPEL but you have a 2 inch fat pad then guess what? A guy who’s 7.5 inch BPEL will look **longer** than you if he has a 0.25 inch fat pad. This is a fact.
Honestly based on my experience it’s a hell of a lot easier to lose 0.25 in of fat pad than it is to gain 0.25 in of BPEL.
So if you’re reading this and have a large fat pad then the first thing you need to do is eat less calories. If you’re willing to pull on your dick for 5 hours a week, use a metal clamp to trap blood inside it for extended periods of time, put your dick in a vacuum tube, attach some random device you made from plans on the internet to your dick then hang 20+ lbs off of it just to make your dick bigger *however* you’re still not willing to drop the fat pad then I literally have no idea and I give up trying to convince you hahaha.