Regarding increasing frequency over time:
Marinera’s post got me thinking (as his posts often do). BG increased his clamping frequency over time. When he saw massive results from clamping, he slowly moved to do clamping marathons on weekends and then even more often, from what I can tell, leading up to doing 16 sets per day. He maintained all set times to 10 minutes throughout, from what I can tell.
The interesting thing is that (from what I can tell - BG correct me if I’m wrong), he seems to have gained most of his gains by 2005. He mentions going to a nudist camp with a clamping/pumping swollen tool that went from 8 inches to level off at 6.5. He continued to clamp for a large amount of time afterward, making his marathons more frequent and intense - yet his EG seems to have remained at 6.5.
What does this say about the underlying process, and how we should affect it? Assume BG gained the majority of his gains, continued to increase daily frequency and even frequency per week, but made no real gains. He called this “cementing,” but lets ignore terminology: the reality is that he continued to clamp and even did it more frequent per day and more days per week and did not gain.
I am thinking that if we are gaining because of Marinera’s theory, that the tool grows in size because it needs to be large enough to maintain oxygen through this time period, it will grow for a 10 minute clamp session more and more until it reaches a limit. It will not grow past that limit, because it no longer needs to - the body responds to incentives. Even if you do the 10 minute clamp 10 more times in a day, the penis has reacted and conditioned itself for the 10 minute clamps. If this theory is true, assuming these empirical results from BG, I believe that once the body has reacted sufficiently to the 10 minute clamps and growth does not continue, the period in clamp must be increased to incentivize more growth.
This might be dangerous and we may not have reason to do if our dicks grow large enough from the 10 minute clamps, but it seems sufficiently logical that if we wanted to grow more at that point, and the oxygenation theory is true, the only way to do so would be to increase time under clamp - frequency would yield no more benefits after a certain amount, frequency should be maintained at the optimal level (which we don’t know, but leave that to later). Clampathons would be completely useless once the penis has grown to its maximum amount given the time under clamp.
This logic seems to hold if we assume the cause of growth to be a need for adjusting to time without oxygen. So if this is the cause, this is the only logically consistent way to grow larger past a maximum determined by sufficient frequency and a certain time under clamp. Agreed?
What I am beginning to think is this: new clampers shouldn’t jump to 10 minutes. There must be some minimum amount of time to induce growth. We need to find out an optimal frequency (it will not be a clampathon - that doesn’t make sense with this assumed cause, if it turns out that growth has a different cause then maybe), and then given that frequency clampers should slowly increase time, beginning at the absolute minimum amount of time under clamp needed to incentivize growth. Clampers would then reach a point of no growth at each time (say starting at 5 minutes), at which point they would need to add time under clamp (say 2 minutes each time they reach a sufficient period of no growth, indicating the body has finished adjusting to the time).
Remember, this model only works if the theory, and its assumption of causality, is true. However, if the cause is deformation for example, then increasing frequency would work, but gains would stop due to needing more growth under clamp, which would be impossible at one point, where we could no longer do anything to induce growth under clamping.
What’s bothering me: the loss of girth after stopping clamping (link posted above). What does this mean? Could smooth muscle grow and then suddenly go back? I expect so. Could collagen grow and then suddenly (within a month) decrease? I doubt it, from my extremely limited knowledge of collagen growth. But how would smooth muscle remain grown after clamping is completely stopped for a long period? From my limited knowledge of hypertrophy, this seems impossible. Maybe if it is muscle growth, then smooth muscle hypertrophy is different than other hypertrophy?
Marinera —- what do you think? Do you agree with the model, assuming the cause? What do you think this loss of girth indicates about causality?