Here, based on reading and practice, for what it’s worth, is my advice, which could be wrong:
First of all stop jelqing. The results you can get from jelqing are potentially limited and it seems, from what you’re reporting, that you’ve probably reached that limit.
Here’s a post on the topic by Xenolith, an engineering consultant and mathematician who, over ten years or so, relatively thoroughly, tested the range of PE exercises available and who, on the basis of his findings, designed his own routine and his own tools. This quote very briefly summarises, more or less the best information we have on the topic:
(His emphases, not mine.)
An important point here: newbie gains come from an entirely different mechanism than do post-newbie gains; newbie gains come from cellular hypertrophy and minor ligament stretching; post-newbie gains come from cellular hyperplasia and major ligament stretching.
Frankly, anyone who thinks that they can jelq their way to an erect volume twice that of the original is, based tissue differentiation mechanics, and not uncoincidentally, on my experience, and the experience of probably hundreds of thousands of men, not practicable…hypertrophy (i.e. enlargement) of cells can only occur to a finite degree. However, hyperplasia (i.e. multiplication) of cells can occur infinitely…now here comes the important part:
1) ONE IS ABLE TO ACHIEVE ACTUAL INFLAMMATION…this is a non-trivial accomplishment (jelqing will NEVER produce sufficient stress to cause inflammation).
2) ONE RESTS THE INFLAMMED TISSUES.
Secondly: don’t do any more girth work.
I say this because you already have a large girth and gaining length will also give you more girth at the same time and I would advise against developing such a large girth that penetration becomes problematic and/or impossible. I’ve read two threads in the last week from people who have actually gained so much that they can no longer penetrate. I personally would advise against this, and would advocate being mindful of the fact that guys here don’t necessarily care about whether or not P.E. affects the functionality of their apparatus, although most probably do. That’s just something to bear in mind so that one doesn’t loose perspective.
Thirdly: I personally believe, if you keep upping the intensity and duration very slowly and very incrementally over time with no rest and no breaks, all you’ll achieve is conditioning/strengthening of the tissues rather than elongation. I suggest you stop jelqing and ADS for that reason also.
Also, yes, I do believe that your girth will affect your potential length gains from such things as jelqing (where lig stretching and tissue stretching is concerned) and ADS. Gains from an ADS I’d imagine are generally seen with people who are of average volume. The same amount of force applied to a larger volume of mass isn’t going to have as great an effect. For example, if the mass is large enough then that same force will be completely negligable.
I think, given how your tissues are probably condition, coupled with your volume, trying to use an ADS to achieve gains from Distraction Hystogenisis is going to require more force than you can comfortably apply with an ADS.
I think at this stage you should give up ADS as a means for creating growth and switch to using it as a tool for aiding growth as a supplement to different, more advanced exercises. i.e. just using it to maintain an extension of the penis without it putting any more stress on the penis.
Basically, most guys will progress to hanging and clamping after they’ve achieved all they can from the newbie phase. This is something you don’t seem to have done.
I’d advise against clamping for length due to the effect it’ll have on your girth.
I’d also advise caution as to hanging as it tends to create an increase in base girth, so by the time you’ve gained say an inch, you’re girth will probably be getting towards the point that penetration will require lubricants and, if your’e with partners who are just naturally tighter or smaller, potentially become problematic.
Also, depending on weight and duration, hanging can potentially cause back problems. I’d personally avoid hanging if it can be avoided, and advise against it for you because of the additional base girth it’ll almost certainly create for you.
My advice to you would be to follow Xenoliths lead with regards stretching, and to switch to Sumo Stretches and Bucking Broncos.
Also, I’d supplement this with (relatively) high pressure, short duration pumping repetitions, with a hand pump, in a tube that will restrict your radial growth (i.e. your girth) but will let you focus on elongation through application of a vaccuum.
That would be my advice: Sumo Stretches and Bucking Broncos and length work in a tube that will restrict your radial growth. Once you’ve got a length you’re comfortable with (assuming it works for you, and there are no guarantees with this stuff) you can switch back to working girth, but I wouldn’t advise working any more on your base. I think there’s a chance that even pumping in this manner could increase base girth and you should probably look into that (I don’t have that information) as I strongly suggest you avoid getting so large that penetration is a problem.
Also, I would say it is absolutely vitally important to read as much as you can on IPR protocol, so that you get a good enough understanding of it to be able to apply the method as needed for you own particular physiology.
It’s my opinion that IPR protocol is more or less the closest thing we have to a science of PE.
It’s also my opinion that a good understanding of IPR is one of the most effective tools you can have in your PE arsenal.
You can begin reading about IPR here: Finding xeno: a penis tale
Last edited by Mr. F : 10-29-2018 at .