Finding xeno: a penis tale

Crazy phase, that’s funny :) .

Well, like I said, the concurrence of the almost PONR condition and maximum compression (and maximum clamp) is ideal…but not neccessary. I always end my session that way, meaning my second or third round of each session, but the first (and second, if I’m doing three rounds) typically is done nowhere near PONR conditions. Hope that clarifies. Main point is that it’s not necessary to do the maneuvers under PONR conditions, but it is beneficial in terms of expansion of the CCs and CS, so hypothetically, it’s beneficial for the purpose of achieving deformation of those tissues…which is, of course, no less than the raison d’être for doing the maneuver.

Right.

Right.

Right. Although the last compression and the last clamp of each round should be intense as well…those few seconds of maximum compression and maximum clamp are analogous to the few seconds of high vacuum in PeForFun pumping.

Nothing that’s any more informative than a simple Google search will yield. They’re supposed to aid in cellular hyperplasia (replication and proliferation) of endothelial cells; something that is essential for achieving the goal of IPR based PE, cellular replication and proliferation of the vascular tissue of the CCs and CS. Here are a few relevant quotes from this article: Blood Vessels and Endothelial Cells - Molecular Biology of the Cell - NCBI Bookshelf that make the importance of endothelial cells clear:

"Endothelial cells have a remarkable capacity to adjust their number and arrangement to suit local requirements. They create an adaptable life-support system, extending by cell migration into almost every region of the body. If it were not for endothelial cells extending and remodeling the network of blood vessels, tissue growth and repair would be impossible."

And from the Summary of the Article:

"Endothelial cells form a single cell layer that lines all blood vessels and regulates exchanges between the bloodstream and the surrounding tissues. Signals from endothelial cells organize the growth and development of connective tissue cells that form the surrounding layers of the blood-vessel wall. New blood vessels can develop from the walls of existing small vessels by the outgrowth of endothelial cells, which have the capacity to form hollow capillary tubes even when isolated in culture. Endothelial cells of developing arteries and veins express different cell-surface proteins, which may control the way in which they link up to create a capillary bed."

Pretty important.

Also…whoops, I did it again…gained another 0.125" in EG…now at 6.75"…for the second time actually, but I can tell that it’s solid this time.

Off to update my siggy :) …

xeno

Congrats on the continued gains. I can’t thank you enough for all you have shared Xeno. I’m a few weeks into my pre IPR break and feel great. It has done wonders for my state of mind and approach to PE as I was constantly looking for opportunities to do something PE related, it had consumed me and the thought of a break scared me. Not only am I feeling more relaxed but I have popped up .125” in girth which I am very happy about. Looking forward to the rest of the break and then into the first phase. Again, many thanks.

Thanks…and right back atcha RR360! That delayed girth gain in the R-Phase is a real treat when it shows up…happy you got one too :)

You know, as with all things, there are ways to work harder and there are ways to work smarter. One may correctly conclude that I’m lazy, but not lazy enough to not share what I’ve learned.

Totally understand your trepidation about going on an extended break. Remember it well; seemed that doing something HAD to be better than doing nothing. Then I thought about what I was trying to accomplish, and more to the point, I thought about what mechanism it was that I would seek to employ to achieve that accomplishment; the inflammation/proliferation/rest model of tissue hyperplasia post-injury seemed like the obvious mechanism to seek to invoke in my body for PE purposes. And the critical nature of the requirement for resting of tissues was obvious…hyperplasia, which may correctly be thought of as “healing in a new configuration” is interrupted by introducing additional inflammation. One need to let those cells endothelial cells replicate. Sometimes girth shows up when we do…

Well, as obvious as all that was to me, gaining with reliable consistency in each new IPR cycle REALLY helped to solidify my understanding of the utility of complete rest breaks. Hope your experience is similarly corroborative of the utility of the IPR method in making penile tissue. For me, gaining that understanding was like going from being a fish flopping around on the beach, hoping to flop into the water…to going to a fish IN THE WATER, who knows which way to swim…and when to rest.

Best wishes for similar for you.

xeno

Hey Xenolith,

Impressive lifetime achievement you got there. I tried to search for IPR and couldn’t find too much of a description of it, rather debates of whether or not it works. I believe you were mentioned as the origin of the theory, could you possibly highlight the main points of each stage such that we could all benefit from your wisdom? If it’s somewhere in this thread, I’m sorry, it’s quite difficult to search through so many pages, plus you may have additional insights after such a long time of PE. Thank you and keep up the good stuff!

Well that’s gonna run into my laziness :) Kidding; and thanks for the kind words CB, but really Shiver pioneered the IPR concept and MX and I tried it in various forms along with Shiver. I did end up tuning the concept to my physiological response, as originally we had no idea what amount of work and what amount of rest would be optimal…and happened to write it down (in oodles of places in this thread and elsewhere on the Forum)…so I erroneously get attributed as the originator of the IPR concept in PE; no it was Shiver; I just developed it to work for me. Those who’ve kept up with this thread know that I continue to tinker with the formula that’s best (where best = minimum work, minimum rest, maximum gains) for my physiology. To summarize that tinkering, I’ve progressively iterated toward less, albeit more intense, I-Phase and more R-Phase.

But to your question: an excellent summary of the IPR concept as applied to PE has been provided by BeardedDragon in this thread: /progress-repor ts-and-pictures … ml#post2214971; copied here as I’m sure my friend BD would approve of my sharing his understanding:

I certainly encourage all on this Forum to consider utilizing the IPR concept in their PE endeavors. It has certainly proven it’s utility to me.

xeno

Loving this discussion and interest in IPR.

Cram all your PE into a few weeks, go nuts on it, and then take a few weeks to a few months off. Enjoy a balanced life, a healthy dick, and (probably) get the same gains rate anyway.

Congrats on your gains xenolith!

Thanks BD; nice to see you knocking about.

Really digging your “Jackie’s mean caucasian induced Dude floatin’ down the bowling lane admiring vag” avatar.

xeno

~~yeah yeah oh-oh yeah what condition my condition is in~~

So praise goes to Shiver an unsung hero of PE! So if I understand it correctly an IPR cycle consists of a shortish period of medium to high intensity PE (manuals, clamping, hanging, pumping etc), followed by a medium period of extender work (such as ADS) and then a longer break/decon period.

So an IPR cycle might consist of, for example, (I-phase) 1 month of 2 on 1 off manuals with pumping, then (P-phase) 1 month of 5 hours per day 6 days per week extender, end with (R-phase) 2 months of rest, repeat. Is that correct? What would the P phase look like for girth work… Edging a lot?

I’ve read a few times (and experienced it myself) that newbies cannot stretch their flaccid out very far when they start out. After a month or so the FSL is roughly equal to the EL. Could that be related to the deposition of type 3 collagen which is now able to be oriented (through stretching)? That was the first thing that came to mind.

You should make a thread with two example cycles or so, for people like me who are a little lost after the newbie routine loses its effect. If that doesn’t cut into your lazy time, of course (:

Here you go:

xeno

Thanks for checkin’ in ;)

xeno

This paints a very clear picture of exactly how the IPR schedule works. Man, I love this. Makes my basic Scheduled Trauma theory look like kiddie handwriting *chuckles* However, with that said it’s the product of a lot of research over a long time and with the actual wound mechanism of the human body as its base.

Much respect and appreciation, xeno.

Whoa, thanks Xeno! :D

I hope I wasn’t too annoying with my questions. This seems very useful especially if you want to go stealth (lots of rest gives you room to maneuver). I’ve copied the text in a word file so I don’t have to look for it again. May try it in a few months! I was going to try Memento’s method first, so with an IPR cyle or two after that I should be set for 2017.

Totally agree Xeno. Working smarter not harder. I’m similar to yourself, although hardly consider you lazy to want to work more efficiently 😁. The huge volume of work and research you put in verifies you are far from lazy. And we are all fortunate to have this documented so we can all learn.
I will have more questions for you closer to the end of my rest period if you don’t mind. But for now, the routines you outlined above, being newbie-advanced- ninja etc, are those in terms of PE newbie or newbie to the IPR protocol? I’m just trying to figure out what type of Inflamation work I will incorporate when I finish resting.

Much appreciation and respect.
R.

No sweat; assuming you’ve realized some newbie gains already, I’d suggest starting with the advanced protocol, although my appreciation for hanging has been surpassed by my appreciation for the efficiency of multiple clamp clamping and compressions…if I didn’t need to use the ninja protocol, I’d use something closer to the advanced protocol…except with with no hanging…the return on investment of time sucks relative to those more efficient methods.

But your question brings up an important point for all of you clam jammers…

The IPR concept is not meant to be prescriptive, indeed, quite the opposite; it’s a conceptual outline for implementing work and rest with an intermediate stage of encouraging cell proliferation that’s based on well understood principles of tissue healing and differentiation. One MUST tailor their I-phase work to their own physiological response. An important point here: newbie gains come from an entirely different mechanism than do post-newbie gains; newbie gains come from cellular hypertrophy and minor ligament stretching; post-newbie gains come from cellular hyperplasia and major ligament stretching.

Frankly, anyone who thinks that they can jelq their way to an erect volume twice that of the original is, based tissue differentiation mechanics, and not uncoincidentally, on my experience, and the experience of probably hundreds of thousands of men, not practicable…hypertrophy (i.e. enlargement) of cells can only occur to a finite degree. However, hyperplasia (i.e. multiplication) of cells can occur infinitely…now here comes the important part:

If:

1) ONE IS ABLE TO ACHIEVE ACTUAL INFLAMMATION…this is a non-trivial accomplishment (jelqing will NEVER produce sufficient stress to cause inflammation).

AND

2) ONE RESTS THE INFLAMMED TISSUES.

Clearly, both of these are a challenge to most PE practitioners, who mostly accomplish nothing utilizing the techniques that got them their newbie gains (because of the finite limit of cellular hypertrophy described above). Honestly, I think that the reason that 99.9999% of PE practitioners, at least as represented by the membership of this forum, show up, get some newbie gains and then disappear, is that they continue to do what they did to get those newbie gains, even after a break, and don’t gain. Maybe they even mix it up with new techniques, but they don’t gain. Eventually, they give up. I would too if I were them.

But I sure am not.

What they don’t understand are the mechanisms of tissue differentiation and here’s another important part: the mechanism of newbie gains, cellular hypertrophy, is observable as gains very quickly (no doubt part of why guys continue to utilize the techniques that got them their newbie gains…remember all organisms respond to stimuli, Pavlov’s (and a-unit’s) dog and homo sapiens included. However, the mechanism of post-newbie gains, cellular hyperplasia, is NOT observable as gains quickly. In fact, one needs to WAIT for the cell replication response to the I-phase applied stress to take place. So yea, there’s yet a third thing that PE practitioners find challenging: waiting. Heck even Pavlov’s dog would quit if the reward NEVER showed up. I’m still here because THE REWARD DOES SHOW UP.

So now, dear reader, you DO understand the mechanisms of tissue differentiation.

Therefore, go forth and use this understanding to grow some post-newbie gains penile tissue.

And let me know if I can help.

Cheers,

xeno