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Finding xeno: a penis tale

Xeno,

Your stats are certainly proof that the rewards do show up. Thanks for explaining that, and also you answered one of the questions I was going to ask about hanging. I know it is effective but I was wondering the same thing in terms of time invested. I want the balance of enjoying gains while still being able to get out and live life without needing to spend countless hours with weights hanging from my dick. I think IPR gives us that balance. I will base my Inflamation phase as you suggest and alter it slightly if needed. Great information, thank you.

R

Originally Posted by Ramrod360
I want the balance of enjoying gains while still being able to get out and live life without needing to spend countless hours with weights hanging from my dick.


Exactly. I remember a quote from me to Shiver from probably 10 years ago: "I’m willing to try anything that doesn’t require the social profile of Ted Kaczynski."

I’d been hanging A LOT.

For you Kiwis and other non-US folks who may not be familiar with Ted, AKA The Unabomber: Ted Kaczynski - Wikipedia

You’re very welcome RR360; happy to be of service.

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.825" BPEL x 6.825" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

Originally Posted by xenolith
Exactly. I remember a quote from me to Shiver from probably 10 years ago: "I’m willing to try anything that doesn’t require the social profile of Ted Kaczynski."

I’d been hanging A LOT.

For you Kiwis and other non-US folks who may not be familiar with Ted, AKA The Unabomber: Ted Kaczynski - Wikipedia

You’re very welcome RR360; happy to be of service.

xeno

😂

Originally Posted by xenolith
Well, like I said, the concurrence of the almost PONR condition and maximum compression (and maximum clamp) is ideal…but not neccessary. I always end my session that way, meaning my second or third round of each session, but the first (and second, if I’m doing three rounds) typically is done nowhere near PONR conditions. Hope that clarifies.

Yes this is clear, thanks. I think I need to build up a bit more next time.

Originally Posted by xenolith
Nothing that’s any more informative than a simple Google search will yield. They’re supposed to aid in cellular hyperplasia (replication and proliferation) of endothelial cells; something that is essential for achieving the goal of IPR based PE, cellular replication and proliferation of the vascular tissue of the CCs and CS.

Actually right after you mentioned I did exactly that - bought up some Tongkat Ali (the good stuff apparently) and have been on it for a week, so we’ll see where we go. My reading didn’t uncover the endothelial cell replication though, very interesting.

Originally Posted by xenolith
But to your question: an excellent summary of the IPR concept as applied to PE has been provided by BeardedDragon in this thread: /progress-repor ts-and-pictures … ml#post2214971; copied here as I’m sure my friend BD would approve of my sharing his understanding:

That’s a very clear explanation, thanks for re-sharing.

Originally Posted by xenolith
Several members have asked me about my PE training strategy. I’ve replied with varying degrees of specificity. Here are my thoughts on the subject with more specificity. Realize however, that nonetheless, the following represents a highly abbreviated, without references, details of my experiments and results, evolution of thought, specific training techniques, etc. version of my PE training strategy. Its based on the IPR Theory of repair (http://www.elec trotherapy.org/ … ling/tissue.htm ) for connective (i.e. contractive) tissues in (as much as possible) the non-contracted state. Much of my thinking and understanding of this material has been influenced by discussion with or posts by MX and Shiver. Much thanks guys.

Ect.

Godspeed.

Xeno,

Magnificent.

This may have been answered between page 8 and 44 but I didn’t want to loose my thought like I got lost at polynomials.

Can this be put into a generic spreadsheet so that people who skill set isn’t deeply mathematical work this out? Like a template. So basically you start entering a micro regime 1-4 days. Then the spreadsheet caculates your optimum marco timeframes. It may even be able to calculate you micro routine, but I can’t work out how at this stage.

They data from the participants could be housed in an area where I am sure someone could do correlations to a high confidence interval. P>.95? Sorry I did Stats but it was along time ago.

From memory once you get past 30 people you will be approximating the Thunders population.

This could put some good rigor around the process.

I can see a problem with different training regimes however the gain plots could even this variability out?

In my case it would be the P time frame that would be the hardest. Working for girth I am not sure about a bulge all day at work. I’m sure I’ll come up with something.

Great thread, I’ll continue toward page 44.

SB

Originally Posted by Shaunbaby
Can this be put into a generic spreadsheet so that people who skill set isn’t deeply mathematical work this out? Like a template. So basically you start entering a micro regime 1-4 days. Then the spreadsheet caculates your optimum marco timeframes. It may even be able to calculate you micro routine, but I can’t work out how at this stage.


Super idea SB; but this definitely runs into my laziness :( .

I’m happy to help by providing my best guesses at input parameters and their magnitudes; you’ll need algorithms with work as their resultants (where work = [time x force]), and there would also need to be an intensity coefficient to account for the peak force application where the actual “inflammation” takes place. I’ll think about this some more, but I do think that you’re going to have to find some smart cat to be the spreadsheet jockey…I suggest hitting up BeardedDragon…

By the way, I’d be less than completely forthcoming if I didn’t tell you that my experience with attempting to coordinate PEers makes herding cats look like an orchestrated affair. You know the old saying “You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink”?; well here’s the PEer version: “You can’t even lead a PEer to water, let alone make him drink; he just wants to stare at his dry hole and wonder why it’s not wet.”

Having said that though…Good Luck! Let me know if I can help.

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.825" BPEL x 6.825" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

Too many variables, too much variance, unreliable data from anonymous sample, trial times in months, and enough unknowns to require decades of experimentation even in a research setting.

While “PE smarter, not harder” is good practice, there is a greatly diminishing return on the effort put into the ‘smarter’ part.

For all the time I’ve researched PE, my personal IPR optimization conclusions have been whittled down to “do enough damage, take enough rest.”

I’ve done my share of over-analyzing, and after all of it I gain at the same rate no matter what I do, so I’ve entered a “just do it” phase. I’ll analyze more if it stops working. If anyone can optimize beyond that for themselves, excellent!


Before 5.5" x 4.1" ///////// Now 7.4" x 4.9"

Well I agree BD. I once stated (paraphrasing) “…too many variables that we don’t know the magnitude of that are co-variant with each other to magnitudes that we don’t know…”

Originally Posted by BeardedDragon
“do enough damage, take enough rest.”


Yep; all one needs to know about IPR.

Thanks BD.

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.825" BPEL x 6.825" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

Yes, I was thinking about this and realised that I don’t have enough time to devote as others so my cycle may be shorter. Too many variable.

Why is my hole dry?

Little hint at which way to water…

I estimate that a single 5 second long Bucking Bronco Stretch yields the same magnitude of suspensory ligamenture deformation as a single 20 minute long BTC hanging session utilizing sufficient weight.

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.825" BPEL x 6.825" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

Wow! What a massive read.

Things I have learnt.

The best thing I can do for my PE career right now is nothing. Literally do nothing for at least a month. All the classic signs are there with stalled growth and even some loss.

By the time that month is up I need to build a tenderiser of sorts.

I then need to monitor my I phase once I recommence. Around day 12 I should see growth slow. In any case when I see growth slow I will know the time period for my body.

The P phase is a little tricky for me as I don’t work from home and an ADS is not something I would risk being discovered at work. I’m sure I will come up with something.

Rest should be easy. Just need to figure out the appropriate amount of time. I.e. What period will be required at my level of intensity, which I will assume is a lot less than someone like Xeno.

I wish I had found this earlier, but in any case I enjoy PE on its own.

SB

Don’t sweat the P-phase SB; it’s far less important than well executed I- and R-phases.

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.825" BPEL x 6.825" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

Originally Posted by xenolith
Don’t sweat the P-phase SB; it’s far less important than well executed I- and R-phases.

xeno

Thanks Xeno,

I recal you estimated 10% for the P phase.

Doing nothing seems to be working well for me. I’m longer faced and it looks larger erect.

So I will dillignetly continue to do nothing

SB

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