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Don't know how to break Plateau

Originally Posted by Jay Flash
As well as considering the rest of your post too, I want to start by saying that I do use the ESL40 throughout the day for low intensity long duration stretching but I also do 20 minutes manual stretch under heat as well. So I’m already doing that last bit if your quote. So it’s a bit discouraging that with this combination I’m still stalling right now.

First of all dont get discouraged, you will gain.

A general rule of stretching is that you should not apply high force. Although i think that after the prolonged low tension, your manual stretching should be a little more intense. There is no point to stretch very gently after the low tension-high duration approach. Try to stretch a little more than your Bpfsl if you get what i mean. Fulcrum stretching can be a good solution here.

This proccess can take some time to give gains like all the PE methods. During that time you have to be consistent.

Also dont forget the 5 hours under tension every week with manual stretching. Long duration holds, relaxing into the stretch, no very high forces until the last 10-15 mins. I record the total time every day and when i reach 5 hours or a little more i take 2 days off. Thats what worked for me.

You see I wonder how hard I should stretch, how much strain and strength should I put into my stretches. I used to stretch as hard as I could before it hurt. Not to go TOO dangerous, but a good amount of intense force (bit like shown in the videos here about newbie stretching).

I wonder if this was what made me lose a 1/4 inch of my gains originally, by doing it too hard. I wonder too if I were to do this now if it would be more bad than good. Same as I wonder if I should even take a decon rest before coming back and building up to hard stretchings too.

I really wanna get into more intense stretchings, but as things are now with this gain loss and stalling, I’ve become a bit wary and feel I have to be careful in doing anything at all.


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Originally Posted by Buckfever
I don’t have enough knowledge to know, but one obvious thing that stands out is that with the ESL40 you’ve taken the low force - high duration approach and that hasn’t worked. I would think trying the other way at this point would make sense, high force - low duration. Hanging or some sort of extender where a higher force can be applied.

I always considered using high force and low duration as you state it. But not sure what hanger or extender are best. I can’t go to the effort to make my own unless they turn out to be basic to make, but I don’t know where to go to get the recommendations of the best ones out there. Do you know?


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Originally Posted by Kjdeet
Why not up the stretching and do everyday? Or small stretching sessions thru the day, works for many people.

Well, as well as wearing the ESL40 for ADS, I do 20 minute more intense stretchings with my hand, with an IR Lamp pointed at my penis. 5 days on, 1 day off.

Is this what you are suggesting or are you thinking of something way more different?


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All you guys have great feedback, we can help this guy gain again! A few notes:

1. Re: Decon — We don’t know if you need that or not. I would suggest trying a higher tension stretch first. If you have stiffened up anything too much then after a few weeks you will know and then it’s time to put PE on the shelf for a good while.
2 .Re: routine: It’s called a routine because it really must be a routine. You don’t train as an athlete for a week on and a week off. I made this same mistake years ago. To really get the gains, you have to train regularly, which means daily. I finally started really gaining when I did the 2 on/1 off/3 on/1 off to match up with a weekly schedule. Once my member became accustomed to the workouts, you can do more.
3. I use my stretcher for 1 hour each day (that I’m “on”). Once you know the force you need to get an “ache” by the end of the hour (50 min or so), that’s right where you want to be. Note that this can be different on different days. There are days where the ache comes in like 40 minutes and I reduce the tension as to not over-do. There are days that I go the whole hour without the ache, so I increase tension the next day. I don’t go more than an hour because my home made stretcher uses 1” medical wrap around the area just behind my head, with an over-wrap on that and the head with a 3” wide band. More than an hour in that thing and I start to get discoloration of the head. I used to have to wear finger cots before applying the bandages because my skin couldn’t handle it. I’ve been doing it long enough to direct-wrap it.
4. I think everyone has said it… we can’t tell you the magic, you have to run your own trials with different exercises and things to see what works and what doesn’t — and it really needs to be a routine. Everyone’s dick is different…

Just my thoughts, keep it up! It is possible!

Mike

Originally Posted by Jay Flash
Well, as well as wearing the ESL40 for ADS, I do 20 minute more intense stretchings with my hand, with an IR Lamp pointed at my penis. 5 days on, 1 day off.

Is this what you are suggesting or are you thinking of something way more different?

Like few minutes of stretching 5-10 times a day. This way the average gain rate is 1 inch in 6 months. In fact pretty much everyone has this kind of growth rate that I’ve read of that do this way.

You would need to be consistent though, I wasn’t, didn’t gain.

You could also stretch for like 40 mins first then rest of the day small stretching sessions.


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Originally Posted by Jay Flash
You see I wonder how hard I should stretch, how much strain and strength should I put into my stretches. I used to stretch as hard as I could before it hurt. Not to go TOO dangerous, but a good amount of intense force (bit like shown in the videos here about newbie stretching).

When you pull your tunica, at some point you reach your full FSL, the tunica becomes suddenly rigid and stops you. That’s just enough strain and strength. If you don’t feel a good stretch when it’s all rigid, pulling harder will cause damages. Instead, you must try another way to stretch. Rather than being one single substance that needs the same thing, view your tunica as many rings on top of each other, and all of them have their own issues with their own solutions. Some rings are more or less resistant, worned, weak, applying one global stretch can weaken a part, stretch another, and the rest will resist too much until the more stretchable rings are worned and weakened. So a global stretch will rarely feel (and be) good in all the tunica at the same time. You must find the part that’s ready to be extended and distribute the pressure well to focus there. Squeezing, pulling, adding leverages, pushing blood in a way or another, etc.


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Are there links to what Bucking Broncos and Sumo Stretches are? I had a search, including Xenolith’s threads, but can’t find them.


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Originally Posted by Jay Flash
I always considered using high force and low duration as you state it. But not sure what hanger or extender are best. I can’t go to the effort to make my own unless they turn out to be basic to make, but I don’t know where to go to get the recommendations of the best ones out there. Do you know?

Sorry for the late response. I’ve only used a basic extender with the noose, which I think the consensus is that it’s not the optimal system, although it’s worked well for me. I have thought about what I would do next if I hit a wall. In what I’ve read, LG hanger, Penimaster pro, bib hanger, also a narrow tube quality air pump with a guage, are devices that are pretty highly regarded, but I have no direct experience and quite frankly there’s always positive and negative. I’m very curious about the Restorex system but it’s very expensive ~ $500 and I want to see the 1 year data that will be published early next year.

Originally Posted by Buckfever
Sorry for the late response. I’ve only used a basic extender with the noose, which I think the consensus is that it’s not the optimal system, although it’s worked well for me. I have thought about what I would do next if I hit a wall. In what I’ve read, LG hanger, Penimaster pro, bib hanger, also a narrow tube quality air pump with a guage, are devices that are pretty highly regarded, but I have no direct experience and quite frankly there’s always positive and negative. I’m very curious about the Restorex system but it’s very expensive ~ $500 and I want to see the 1 year data that will be published early next year.

What exactly is the Restorex thats very expensiv!

Its nothing new its a clamp down penis extender using very high traction and short time. What is super interesting is the remarkable results from only 2x30 min sessions

So 2cm gain in length from 12 weeks of 1hr per day thats nice! And the subjects had a 16,7cm penis that went to 18,7 on avarage.

Originally Posted by Kjdeet
Like few minutes of stretching 5-10 times a day. This way the average gain rate is 1 inch in 6 months. In fact pretty much everyone has this kind of growth rate that I’ve read of that do this way.

Yea right, maybe for you and lucky few. Most don’t gain 1 inch in first few years, let alone 6 months.


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Originally Posted by Nixxx
Yea right, maybe for you and lucky few. Most don’t gain 1 inch in first few years, let alone 6 months.

I think it depends if you had some ED. I had some ED when I started PE and my erection was not as long as my SFL even before PE because of it. If I was to count my ED erect length towards now it would paint a false picture of gains so I don’t but others might not take EQ into consideration.

Originally Posted by HenrikL
I think it depends if you had some ED. I had some ED when I started PE and my erection was not as long as my SFL even before PE because of it. If I was to count my ED erect length towards now it would paint a false picture of gains so I don’t but others might not take EQ into consideration.

Yea, they say improved EQ accounts for at least 1/2 newbee gains.


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