Finding xeno: a penis tale

Yes indeed😊

Hey Xeno I decided to go on a break today, I restarted my workouts feb 1st só been at it for 28 days. So for that time being I think I’m gonna take 2 weeks off what do you think?

I decided to start with the advanced training to see how it goes but I have a few doubts.

You say do the stretches in the morning, but do you still warm up with a hot wrap? For how long?

So can I do the stretches in the morning and the rest of it at night?

I don’t have much time in the morning.

You don’t mention the usage of ADS after the workouts, is it not necessary at this phase?
I guess it’s gonna be necessary for the P phase, but you don’t mention for how many hours a day and which type you use, or would it be the CC that you consider the ADS device?

Now a question related to the ninja training, how do you apply the TT and the TTr? I mean in which direction? For how long? I don’t have much experience with clamping, but usually when I clamp I get really hard, like if I put any more pressure my penis would explode.

Thanks!

Hey Xeno about this lig pop. Before having it while doing the SS have you had that? I never had a lig pop and don’t know how it’s like to tell.

Also I was thinking about the theory length first girth second. According to that I should try a hanging IPR regimen. How could you suggest one?

I was think using the same 1on 2off? And using ADS too? A little confused about the micro P phase, is it for the hours after workout? Then rest only on the next day?

Sorry for so many questions.

How do you determine the length of your R phase?

I’m thinking the more intense the I phase the longer the R phase, however are there indicators?

I’m at 3 weeks now in R phase.

SB

Just had an insight, what if you would pump with a few hard material cockring along the shaft?

Like a metal cockring. Then you would pick a size similar to your flaccid girth and spread 1 every inch all the way near the coronal ridge and the pump.

Not sure what pressure would be safe for this but I’m guessing that you should achieve by feel a pressure similar to the tiger trap.

From what he stated the R phase should be 2-3 months if you did a 2-3weeks I phase. The first 3 weeks with CC

Just a quicky search found a couple of descriptions of the Sumo Stretch and the Bucking Bronco Stretch…I didn’t bother editing, just copied the whole post:

Sumo Stretch:

Bucking Bronco Stretch:

One more thing on the Bucking Bronco Stretch: a cylindrical rod is NOT recommended’; rather, an oval cross-sectioned rod IS recommended…a long handled axe handle is perfect.

Let us know what you think of the these stretches when you can BZ.

Cheers!

xeno

First: Damn it! took me like 40 minutes on Monday trying to fish the descriptions from the site. :-P
Second: Do you think the oval-ness of the rod is the determining factor, don’t you think the radius of curvature would be more important? If it’s really the ovality then I’ll just grind a little bit off the sides of my broom handle (and sand/varnish it properly of course, don’t want splinters lol) .
Thanks for the insights! And thanks for keeping track of all this stuff so we can search through it for gems like that ;)

You’re super welcome CB; happy to help.

I think that the oval cross section helps by not being subject to rotation as much as a round cross section, which helps to keep the fulcrum that one is making with the rod pressed deep into the pelvis…doesn’t roll outward as much. The oval cross section also seems to act like a cam to some degree, also helping to keep the fulcrum in tight to the pelvis and perhaps increasing the magnitude of applied stress…maybe. Also, the narrow sides of an axe handle allow one to have a short distance between one’s hand and the base of one’s penis…don’t need to have as long a penis to perform the stretch…while still being very rigid. A round rod of a diameter equivalent to the short dimension of an oval axe handle would flex more, perhaps too much to effectively deliver the force that the stretch is designed to deliver. Long handled axe handles are usually made of very strong hardwoods, oak commonly, which makes them very resistant to flexure, which is important for optimum execution of this stretch. In summary, it just seems to work better. Other things can work, but the axe handle really is best.

xeno

Super hard to say DV; the right answer depends on the degree to which you’ve accomplished true deformation of your soft tissues and tunica. If you have, then 28 days is plenty; rule of thumb is 2 weeks can be just about right if one is getting good deformation…and 4 weeks is the absolute longest one would want go if they are truly getting good deformation…after that long, one’s tissues definitely need an extended rest…R-phase. And regarding duration of R=phase, yes, for me 2-3 months seems to be right. I think for some less could be just fine and there are probably some for whom more would be necessary.

I don’t use a hot wrap, I simply use a 250 watt IR lamp.

Sure.

CC use, or some other ADS use, is a nice complement to both the I and R phases, probably contributing about 10% toward gains. For me it’s easy to do, for others maybe not. There’s no set amount of time to use a CC/ADS, as with all low stress PE methods, more time is better.

My recommendation is to focus on generating true deformation; i.e. causing the dimensions of your penis to expand beyond your maximum erection size.

The teeth are oriented perpendicular to the shaft.

With the TT, the time from “in” to “out” is about 60-120 seconds, with maximum compression, i.e. when the actual deformation takes place, happening for about 5-10 seconds at about 3/4 of the way into the maneuver. Basically after “The Crush”…for lack of a better term, I’m rapidly backing of the wingnuts…REAL rapidly!!!

With the TTr, the penis is laid across the bottom (2 toothed) board and then the top (1 toothed) board is pressed into the top of the penis…whole maneuver can take from about 2 to 5 or 6 seconds. I probably do about 20 discreet compressions, distributed between 2 or 3 cycles per sessions. By the way, I generally lay Tiger across the bottom TTr on it’s side. One can use the TTr to compress the dorsally/ventrally, and I do, perhaps 25% of the time, but I prefer to compress Tiger’s sides (about 75% of the time).

That’s exactly what you’re going for! I assure you that it won’t explode…I can also assure you that what’s happening when it feels like it’s going to explode is tissue deformation. The singular purpose of the I-phase.

You’re welcome!

xeno

This is genius! Seriously, I’m positive that this would be very effective for girth. Perhaps a bit of length, but it would be excellent for girth. If the rings had a pyramidal profile so that impingement had a triangular cross section, it would be optimum…do such rings exist? If one could find rings that snugly fit into tube, one could achieve the same effect by gluing the rings to the interior of the tube…

Seriously insightful suggestion DV; clearly you’re clear on the concept of the TT!

You really should try it and let us know what you think.

Cheers and Thanks!

xeno

Really don’t have a very satisfying answer for that one SB; mostly I’ve gone with 2-3 months and that duration was informed by data from tissue remodeling articles found online. That time frame has worked well for me. I might try one month or 6 weeks some time.

Sorry I don’t have something more solid to share on that.

Sounds a little kooky, but I can tell when tissues are ready for I-phase work again…super flexible and a real easy long hanging flaccid are the most tangible evidence,..the rest is sort of 6th sense.

xeno

I wasn’t thinking something like these rings https://www.pum ptoys.com/catal … et-1.75-26.html but thicker. And in my case, smaller 😝.

I know it sells all sizes of it at Home Depot, but gotta see if I can find it here in Brazil.

Anyways glad to contribute!

I have the utmost respect for xeno and IPR. Let that be clear first and foremost, as both a practicioner of the theory and respectful of a PE genius.

But as a moderator here at Thunder’s with a working understanding of IPR theory and ample PE experience I just need to make a statement here, every so often for the onlookers and Newbies reading this thread. Pumping with a cock ring or multiple rings has a seriously large capacity to cause severe injury very quickly in as little as a single session.

IPR, while often effective for generating gains, relies on the body's tissue repair cycles to generate permanent growth. It requires ample personal PE experience to know the exact limits of your penis before you push them too hard.

In other words, IPR involves high intensity exercises with very precise and short durations. Meaning overdoing it is VERY easy AND carries a wide and serious injury factor. You can easily hurt yourself after one session if you aren’t both experienced and careful. Ample personal experience with PE and gains so you intimately understand your PIs is crucial to success with IPR and to avoiding injury.

Making this statement does not take take away from the usefulness of IPR, which I myself do practice. I simply want to remind folks every so often to take extreme care with experimental routines and device combinations before attempting them.

I try to keep cognoscente of the need for warnings/disclaimers regarding IPR practice in general and in particular the particular practices that I use…but my success rate at that is definitely not 100!

Excellent moderation TG; thank you :up:

xeno