Finding xeno: a penis tale

Thanks for the reply Xeno!
Since I’m not encountering any of the mentioned problems I’ll keep my broomstick cylindrical then, less work involved :)
CB

Totally understand CB; your experience will inform whether you need to optimize or not. As a metric of effectiveness, a lig pop is one. If you’re also doing Sumo Stretches and experiencing lig pops with those, you may not get a lig pop with your BB stretches, if so, you should use your BB stretches to create strain in your suspensory ligs…meaning that you should hold the stretch longer…30-60 seconds versus ~1 second for BB stretch that produces a lig pop. With use of the longer, strain producing version of the stretch, you should feel soreness in your pubis mons area later that day…or within 12 hours to be more generic.

Cheers!

xeno

My I phase is 11 days.

I think I will let the R phase go for the month. The P phase is hard. Just did two gentle pumps.

Hi xeno, my name is javi Im from spain, my english its baad but I need ask you one two questions, when you can ,please revise your private messages.

Thanks and sorry for my message :(

Xeno

Excellent detailed explanations of the way you use the devices on the previous page. Thank you so much. I added more knowledge for my next I phase.

R.

Hey Xeno thanks for answering so many questions! I got one more if you don’t mind!

I read that you said soft tissue work has nothing to do with lig stretching, so would that be ok while on my break to hang and do the BB and SS stretches?

Well, I don’t know is the short answer. I feel pretty strongly that the lig focused BB and SS stretches don’t disrupt soft tissue healing and proliferation…enough so that I do them through my R-phases. Hanging…my sense is that that would interfere with soft tissue healing and proliferation. But again, I don’t know.

For what it’s worth, to a large degree, the IPR protocol resulted from a desire to avoid the large time commitment that successful hanging requires.

xeno

A week into my R-phase and I was working manual stretches absently, wondering the exact same thing and I concluded stretching ought not disrupt what we are trying to create. Then I had a lig pop and felt like it was truly productive. So manual stretching is fine during R-phase?

I definitely will start the Bucking Bronco and Sumo stretches when I get an axe handle.

Ok ty

Cool. Another thing that I don’t know…but think is true…is that lig pops have helped with length gains.

I’m really glad that you posed that question TG. Both the BB and SS impose a fulcrum on the dorsal shaft as tight in to the pelvis as possible so that the applied stress is delivered to the ligs inboard from the fulcrum. Yes, there is a roughly equivalent stress applied to the portion of the shaft outboard from the fulcrum, a stress that surely is, to some degree anyway, manifested within the soft tissues of the CCs and CS…which would seem contra-indicated by the R-phase requirement of the IPR protocol. However, for two reasons, I think it advantageous to perform the BB and SS stretches through the R-phase, indeed whenever possible! The first is that the duration of stress application during both maneuvers is only about a second. Note that I’m referring to the time it takes to generate a lig pop, one can, particularly in the case of the BB stretch, extend the maneuver for longer durations, but this is something that I DON’T do during R-phases…and which I DO do during I-phases. I’ve concluded that the 1 second spent generating a lig pop with BB and SS stretches carries more benefit to the PE objective than it does detriment (to soft tissue healing and proliferation).

The second reason is that I think that in the flaccid state, which these stretches are done in, the tunica takes up the majority of applied stress, thereby largely reducing the concern over disrupting soft tissue healing and proliferation.

I think a good guiding principle for R-phase is limiting stress application, but something like the BB and SS stretches that impose stresses for such a short duration, a second or two, and which confer something (lig pops) that I think produces a significant benefit to length gains is worth the second or two per day in the R-phase.

Other stretches, that are performed…for any duration really, but certainly ones that are done for more than a second or two…that don’t confer that kind of benefit…I’d say don’t do ‘em.

But I could be wrong.

I’m quite sure that no better return on investment…of time anyway…PE method will ever be found that betters these stretches. Bummer that something has to be purchased for the BB stretch, but considering that it gives 30 minutes worth of BTC hanging in 30 seconds…and a good hanger costs dough, well, I think it’s worth buying the axe hanndle. By the way, a Pulaski handle works great too.

Thanks for the pointed question about stretches during R-phase.

xeno

Just thank you, veery valuable information!

Thank you Xeno, I guess its easier to refine the build when you already have a template to work with. The spacing was intentional as I figured that might allow for greater stretch of the tunica on the opposite side of the peak. The Teeth perfectly close together this way. I may in the future build one without the extra spacing.

I should say something for disclosure. I was a part of Babbis’ experiment. I was really young back then and didn’t know the theory behind everything, it was well before I majored in a medical degree. I didn’t even know about the IPR ideas it was lifted from. All I knew was I hadn’t gained past my newbie gains for 2 years, despite religious PE practices and increasing time and intensity. Babbis asked if there were any like me that failed to gain after newbie gains despite continuing PE and would have to be willing to do what he says. I had to vacuum hang and after some failed attempts at making my own device I bought either a Max-vac or one of Monkeybar’s hangers. I had to take a break and lo and behold I gained. I started college and due to a mixture of privacy issues, rigors of school and partying I continued to hang but my routine was inconsistent. Looking back it might have even mimicked the IPR routine in a way. Hanging one day missing it for a few days before continuing but it was not organized. I made my best gains yet during this time before once again stalling out.

Oddly I don’t remember much of that experiment or even if I stayed to finish it. I think I attributed the gains to just hanging and kept going. The positives of the routine are too many and in the end will probably gain the same amount as if I spent all my free time on growing my penis. Like you I’m not willing to live the social life of Ted Kaczynski but want to go and explore this world, date beautiful women and make new friends and memories.

I do have some general questions for you.
1. Do you do BB or SS or ADS on your rest days during Micro I phase? If no do you think this can lead to faster conditioning than the standard keep the tissues in a weakened state? IOW if I ADS, performed BB and SS on my rest days but no hanging do you think the need to bump up the weight would be slowed? I’ve noticed this go around that my weight increases faster when I take full days off. If you have experimented with ADS on your rest days what were your results? My goal is mainly length now but will take what I can get.

2. After making the TT I was using it horizontally (between the dorsal and ventral sides of the shaft) but in your tiger picture thread you place it vertically. Can both ways be achieved? Since doing a few practice runs with it and PEFF pumping I’m now back to the biggest I’ve been in my sig, from 7.5 x 5.5 the beginning of this year to 7.75 x 5.75.

More to come but I’ve run out of time. Thank you a

Nevermind it appears you use the SS and BB throughout. What about ADS on your rest days?

Thanks Xeno.

I’m keeping a track of my girth and it is increasing even in week four. Initially I was annoyed as it seemed to drop to 5 inches after the I phase. It’s back to 5 and 1/8 inches now which is what it was at the end of the I phase.

I think the concept of doing nothing is hard to get your head around. I had planned a 6 week R phase with 2 week I phase giving 8 weeks and about 8 cycles per year.

I will keep monitoring and see how I go.

SB

It is hard to wrap your head around but it does seem to work. My own experience with a less extreme I-phase than you used seems to indicate that gains come and are stable throughout the R-phase. Your drop in size says to me that you overdid it a touch, in my opinion.

I’d give a full length R-phase a fair shake. I’d go with 8 weeks minimum. This is my own method. As I concluded 3rd week of February and am not due back till May.