Girth theory: Pumping vs. clamping

May I suggest the term “Priapologgy” for our science, derived from the Greek god priapos.

You docs sure have a problem with spelling priapology or penisology. :)

:) :)

I was surprised but also skeptical about the kegeling issue in that paper.

First, we all know that it takes regular kegal exercises to gain the strength to be effective for ejaculatory control and probably PE.

So I ask, how strong were the kegel efforts of these volunteers. Is within the culture of the Egyptian volunteers to practice “internal contractions?” Do they learn to kegel in childbirth classes with their wife as they do here in the US. (In my experience with Egyptian couples recently from their country, husband involvement in childbirth was minimal). Even if they did, it takes practice and concentrate to even find the BC muscles.

Would you give a maximal kegal/BC contraction effort if you had a needle in you tunica and recording needles in both of your BC muscles? I wouldn’t. I don’t they would either (or did).

When you are flaccid, the blood flow to the penis is minimal. The amount of blood in the cavernosa is small. If you contract your Bulbo- and Ischiocavernosa muscles when flaccid, your not moving much blood. So it is not surprising that if you start kegels flaccid, you’ll end the same way.

While you contract with a kegel, you do retract, but it when you relax it returns back to its original position. We take advantage of this when we assess our LOT.

Is it my problem if it’s not in your spell checker. :)

I got C’s in speling in elimetery skool.

Yes, if you are going to make up a word, at least you could spell it correctly. ;)

Use Firefox and you can add any word you want to your own private spell checker.

You make up your way and I’ll make up words my way :)

In your house you can.

The Firefox spell checking add-on (which must be combined with the Basic Text editor setting in the User Control Panel) is a great tool for spelling well on the fly.

And, as Thunder pointed out, you can add words to it (such as Kegel, which should always be capitalized as it is a guy’s name).

So Egyptian Kegeling… do they learn that in school the way Arabs learn to jelq? Just kidding.

If simply doing a Kegel routine everyday made you bigger…well this would be a whole lot simpler, wouldn’t it?

I like the Firefox spell checker as well. I will add Kegel and penisology to it.

Arnold would probably be happy if we capitalized his last name. Thanks for the correction.

No I think Arabs boys learn it from their fathers, the way they learn “light penis massage” (jelqing). Isn’t that what some of the NPE sites say? :)

I’d be 15 x 9 if Kegels did the trick alone. But it does (at least in my case) help me add volume to my penis when I do PE.

:)

There is tons of good information in this thread, but despite how much I have learned, and pondered the original question, it is still difficult for me to come up with a concise and specific answer to why pumping is different than clamping.

I think the answer lies in the observation that pumping creates so much more lymph build up than clamping. So obviously there is something different between increasing internal pressure compared to decreasing external pressure. So why is there such a difference in lymph?

Priapo.. What?

We wanted to found a pe university under your name, great ThunderSS.

If you prefer a spelling college .. :) - You certainly have the experience.

Nope. I’d rather you found a College of Bullshit at this particular point in time ttt. I seem to be running into a lot of that lately. Nothing to do with you or this thread though. But I could be the Dean of Bullshit with no problem. :)

Because the increased internal pressure (clamping) has no big influence on the tissue between the skin and the tunica.

By contrast, if you pump, the tunica is indirectly affected: the pulling effect is transmitted from the skin to the tissue under the skin to the tunica. Therefore, tissue pressure (Pt in the equation) decreases and that favors filtration of fluid from the blood into the tissue, according to starlings equation. I’ll try to remember that equation as good as I can (pudendum correct me if necessary):

V/t = C (Pi - Pt) - r * (pi - pt)

Where V/t is the Volume of fluid filtered across the semipermeable microvascular blood membrane, C is a Conductivity factor, r is a reflection coefficient for the macromolecules at the membranes depending on the size of the macromolecules relative to the pore size of the membrane, P are hydrostatic pressures, p are oncotic (= colloid osmotic) pressures (resulting from macromolecules), I is intravascular and t is tissue).

That’s why.