I've been jelqing for more than 6 months. This is what I have learned.

Just my 2 cents to the BP / non-BP measuring discussion:

Why is anyone using a ruler?
IMO anything capable of measuring will do, even a simple string (yeah like the ones they wrap around postal packages).

And besides: I think the part about his theory about giving the body a little time to recover the small wounds, rather than a little time to recover somewhat not so small wounds is pretty insightful and matches my experiences in the gym (and yeah I know that penile tissue and muscles are not comparable, but it still makes sense IMO :-) )

Ys

This probably won’t be read since it is on page five or six of this post but I have to say something about the NBP and BP methods. You should use BP to measure your gains because it provides a fixed point for your measurement, but it should only be used for measuring your gains. In other words I mean you aren’t gonna tell someone you have a 7” BP if your actually only 6” NBP (especially if they may see it later). I measure every four weeks, I put my back and heels of my feet against the wall, I press the ruler into my pubic bone, and lean over as slight as possible to make the reading. It doesn’t matter if someone else would measure the same dick differently, as long as you do it the same way each time you will be able to record your overall progress plain and simple.

Have a good one,
VTdarkhorse

Wow, I an intrigued by newbies thoughts, even if they we’re last year. I sometimes feel like I am spending WAY too much time at night doing my jelqing. I think I might try doing a 15 minute routine in the morning before work and maybe a small amount of time at work if I go into the restroom or something.

I guess he means wet jelqs. What about dry jelqs?

Two years ago I started some PE - exactly the same routine as Newbie: only jelqing - about 15 minutes / day, without warming up/down, without stretch or squeeze. I made this for about 10 month, then I stopped. Why? No significant results. During that period I had better erections and obtained girth gain (less than 0.25 inch) and almost nothing in length. That’s all !
I restarted PE two month ago, being new-member of this forum, presently doing warming up/down, stretch, jelqing, squeeze-Uli and in two month I gain in length and girth (erect state) 0.2 inch. I’m more satisfy by this routine !

cos

I have gotten no where with erect jelks. Reading Newbies advice gives me new motivation. Obviously different things work for different people.

True true..
Doesn’t really come as a surprise to me.. Why should people be all the same all of a sudden only because it’s about their genitalia ;)

Anyways, I really think that the LOT thing Bib wrote a _nice_ article about is on to something.
Quick and easy gains (I’m not saying “not painful” here, because if you do it wrong it’ll be a PITA to heal again.. as with all ligaments), but also one of the few things which are hard to heal _and_ reset.. Being cautious helps though… Not always as my case suggests (note: My leftside ligs apparently were a bit damaged to start with.. I didn’t know/notice that until the moment when a hardon ;) resulted in a slight lig pain for the left ligs.. So be careful you dont want this to happen to you [although the results sure _are_ impressive ;) ] )

Ys

Although instinctively you would think gains come from internal pressure as you would get from erect jelks, perhaps gains come more from the tissue massaging effect of a soft jelk which could increase blood flow and stimulate cellular activity?

Well it’s two pieces of the same puzzle..
Jelq (IMO of course) has the low scale benefits of:
a) stretching the existing tissue a little more everytime => gains
b) pushing lots of blood in the slightly injured tissue in order to get healing on the way

If you can find a working balance (for yourself) between a and b you shouldn’t have to stop jelqing (unless you re getting in one of those stuck-phases where the tissue needs to rest).

The tissue feels very hard to the touch (at least for me it does ;) ) so I figure it _is_ hard, meaning there’s not as much space left to push blood into the tissue than when you are only half-erect.. Could be an effect resulting from the “skin” surrounding the corpa though (which feels tougher if your penis is fully erect than when it is not).. If there wasn’t such a “skin” (let’s call it sub-skin) the tissues would just bulge around everywhere, not necessarily only your boner itself so there should be such a thing… bad reasoning from my part maybe, but it does make some sense to me :)

On re-reading the last passage I think I found a similarity to your body’s cells being stretched when warm as oposed to cold..
Could be a similar mechanism on the grandscale (and a similar one on the cellular scale).

Ys

HI do you warm up first? if so how?

I am here to report a .25 inch gain in my girth, that I attribute to flacid jelking, and flacid Mr. Orange squeezes. I read this thread and figured it was worth a try since I have been getting no where for years. A quarter inch does not sound like much but consider my history:
Start in 2000 - 4.75 EG
2001 through December 2004 -4.875 EG

Now - 5.125 EG
One month of flacid jelking and doing the flacid fold and squeeze exercise that Mr. Orange posted. I am very excited and think I can continue to gain.
I believe that I have been on the wrong track for years, squeezing and jelking at high erection levels. It might work for some, but does nothing for me. I can feel now, that the stretching of the elastic tissues can only occur for me without being hard. Hardness prevents the stretching from occuring. Good luck to you all.

Interesting, could you please explain this again? I’m not quite understanding it but I would REALLY like to.
Thankyou.

Also, I realise you we’re going for 10, 15 to 20 minutes, but how many jelqs would you say you did in those times respectively?

I have seen no gains since the first 3/10 over a year ago.. I haven’t been erect jelqing but it has been 80-90% easily and I am very rough with it to the point it hurts and burns as I’m doing it and for days afterwards (oops)

So I’m going to try 5 days (m-t-w-t-f) 10 minute light routine, followed by 3 days (m-w-f) of 20 minute routine (again light, just twice as long).

My LOT is around 7:30 so I really REALLY hope to gain length from jelqing.

CoolRebel this is a very old thread, is newbie still around? I disagree with most of his ideas. Blatantly contradicting with supporting arguments that don’t hold water. It was as if he was going against accepted ideas just for attention, but what do I know :)

newbie Last Activity: 07-24-2003 08:44 PM

Is it time to lock this old thread and bury it? About the time you think it’s dead, here it comes back to life.

It just won’t die!