For the past 2-3 days I have been reading this thread and I have also checked out manko’s & kyrpa’s progress logs, that apply the knowledge distilled from here… and I must say - why the heck isn’t the entire PE community paying more attention to these two guys.
Their success with the same “routine” is PHENOMENAL.
From what I understand so far, what they are doing is mainly trying to cause strain in the 2-4% region, usually upwards of 2.5%.
Strain being (post workout BPFSL / pre workout BPFSL).
It seems that manko is trying to strain through creep and kyrpa via elasticity exhaustion (stress relaxation).
I have started hanging recently and since I gave all of this a read, I have adopted the strategy and am trying it out as well, in fact, today was my first session!
I have not measured BPFSL but I plan to do in order to track strain.
I am using heat extensively, just not like those two guys, I simply use a rice sock, no infrared or ultrasound heating!
I will probably not be as efficient as those guys, but I am employing a bit of a mixed approach, I do not target to cause strain via elastic exhaustion nor creep only, but by using both, as Marinera hinted at, which Kyrpa quoted here: Kyrpa - Manko007’s road to big dick land
Marinera called it the “2-phase PE approach”, which is basically using ads or extender to exhaust elasticity and then load weight for creep adaptation (strain).
That is what I am trying to approximate:
I heat up for 10m (rice sock —> 2.5 top shaft, 2.5 bottom shaft, repeat twice, enclosed with t-shirt to isolate heat from escaping),
then I extend for 1h at 1.25kg with rice sock sitting on top side of shaft, pretty much keeping it very warm (but declining temperature) over the entire duration.
Then I do 10 tension stretches for 20s (0 intensity at t=0s, 60-70% intensity at t=20s) which is my approach to trying to approximate “stress relaxation” (I don’t have a contraption yet to properly do it) while I reheat my rice sock. (I know stress relaxation works a bit different… if anyone got a better idea, I am willing to listen!)
Immediately afterwards, I hang my first set. Then I reheat my rice sock again, during which I am doing JAI stretches.
I repeat this two times with each time incrementing weight 0.5 in the following sets.
And in the last set, I do not heat, I use the 3rd set to “cool down”.
I will need to take measurements to see whether my approach is fruitful in regards to causing 2-4% strain. I hope it is, otherwise I will have to tweak it and make it work some other way.
IMO the whole PE community should be watching those two guys! They have had ridiculous success, I’d say the likelihood of it being random for 2 guys at the same time is low!
Again, phenomenal threads!!!
Edit: The reason I am paying credibility to all of this is because of a random personal experience. A few weeks ago, when I was completely oblivious to all of this, I did something stupid…
I extended for 4 hours (1h sets) and afterwards, I thought I should stretch manually… Well, I did it… with my usual stretch-intensity… and I almost broke my dick!
I had kind of an idea what happened, but after reading through this read, I now know for sure:
Elasticity was completely exhausted and I caused strain well beyond my max BPFSL (well thats how it felt anyway, I did not measure)! Which was dangerous and stupid!
Anyway, now I will be aiming to repeat that in a controlled and systematic fashion, just like those two guys!