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I don’t use ADS outside the house, I sometimes use an elastic band around my penis and balls like and ADC when outside, but that’s all

I wanted to ask you guys what do you think about gaining EL without any FSL improvements? I think I’m experimenting this for 1-2months, not sure though. I can’t measure a considerable increase in bpfsl since late september, but I did measure bpel and flaccid increases a few times in this period

Does anyone have any idea if this is even possible please? Maybe it’s my measuring error


Last edited by train spot : 11-29-2018 at .

As with most things in life, overthinking and undertraining is a common problem.

Bib went from 6 inches to 10.5 inches. That was because he hung with good technique for 8 to 12 hours a day, every day, for two years. And he got up to 40lbs eventually.

Find a wrap and a hanger attachment that is comfortable, and allows for a tight grip on the internals. Take your time and figure out how to hang so that you actually stretch the internals and ligaments. Be intentional about it, make sure your actually stretching the internals and ligaments. And be consistent. More weight gradually over time, never stopping at one weight for too long.

I’ve been using the same weight now for 2 months, 4kg, started with 4,5kg just recently, maybe for a week or more. Do you think I waited too much? Should I put 5kg next week? I’m hanging for roughly 4-5 months, since july I started with 2-2,5kg max weight and after the first 2 weeks I was already hanging 3kg and eventually 3,5kg which I also used a lot, probably 2 months also..I’ve been only taking guidance with weight from my fatigue and positive PIs.

I really want to gather all the information I can about hanging from active hangers, and I like this thread a lot, thank you very much

Originally Posted by manko007
I see. Thank you for the concise answer. Experientially 2.5% “creep” seems to be a catalytic point for me. That is 2.5% above elastic limit. If I account also for elastic stretch, then I reach about 4.8% total stretch from baseline.

Have you managed more than 2.5% creep? Stretch above elastic limit? It seems to be the max for me, unless I increase the weight substantially, maybe I can go higher, but then probably turtleing would ensue.

Anyway, at current level I seem to be gaining again. I measured and my BPEL increase by 0.2mm since starting this thread and follow the science, fulcrum, temperature, and cord isolation. After years of no results. I am pretty confident this works.

I am referring to a total strain percentages as I understand 2.5% of pure creep being a whole lot .
Without heat I can’t get no more than 2-2.5% strain. Latest measurement being 20.8cm BPSFL before stretch. After 90 minutes of stretching in a manner described before it was 21.2 cm equal to 2% strain.
I have only vac attachment so there is no way to measure correctly without a reliable reference point while in stretcher. So measures are taken straight after exiting vac stretcher.
With heat and heavier stretches got it up to 21.4 cm now totaling 2.8 %. Feel no need to even try to get more doing progress this way. Keep in mind that over 5% of strain could get one injured.

I suppose you are on a good spot with your procedures and congratulations on your new gains.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by BiggerPenis73
As with most things in life, overthinking and undertraining is a common problem.

Bib went from 6 inches to 10.5 inches. That was because he hung with good technique for 8 to 12 hours a day, every day, for two years. And he got up to 40lbs eventually.

Find a wrap and a hanger attachment that is comfortable, and allows for a tight grip on the internals. Take your time and figure out how to hang so that you actually stretch the internals and ligaments. Be intentional about it, make sure your actually stretching the internals and ligaments. And be consistent. More weight gradually over time, never stopping at one weight for too long.

Great for Bib and inspirational for those who are foolish and delusional enough to get strapped to any kind of devices with their penis for a majority of their awaken hours for a two whole years in their busy living. I think that was not your intention to provoke anyone but every time Bib is mentioned there should be a severe disclaimer.

What it is all about in reasoning in this thread is doing the opposite. Do less and gain more without your dick being one´s only priority.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Why do you think Bib should always be disclaimed?

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Great for Bib and inspirational for those who are foolish and delusional enough to get strapped to any kind of devices with their penis for a majority of their awaken hours for a two whole years in their busy living. I think that was not your intention to provoke anyone but every time Bib is mentioned there should be a severe disclaimer.

What it is all about in reasoning in this thread is doing the opposite. Do less and gain more without your dick being one´s only priority.

Great great post, my thoughts exactly. I am skeptical about Bib’s gains not because he gained 4 inches but i dont believe that its possible in two years

Originally Posted by train spot
Why do you think Bib should always be disclaimed?

Well we have to be realistic about efforts one can do in real life. There will always be guys who will not gain in any circumstances despite the hours spend on hanger. it is not fair to engourage anyone to spoiling their lives hanging by their penises all their time available. This is not a religion after all.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

But what if it works?

I mean, I am currently hanging and gaining for 6 months roughly, and I do notice that after hanging for longer periods of time my bpfsl always goes up.:D

And there is an old saying from someone on thundersplace, actually from more than one, as for hanging = more is better when it comes to hanging time…

I also don’t believe BIBs claim, not that I don’t think it’s possible to gain 4 inches in 2 years, maybe not 4 but 3 is doable especially when peole gain over 1,5 inches in general after hanging more than 1 year, but BIB has NO PHOTOS. For a guy with his rep, he should’ve had at least ONE photo of maybe his starting stats compared to his later stats, not necessarily his newest photos….

Originally Posted by train spot
But what if it works?
I mean, I am currently hanging and gaining for 6 months roughly, and I do notice that after hanging for longer periods of time my bpfsl always goes up.:D
And there is an old saying from someone on thundersplace, actually from more than one, as for hanging = more is better when it comes to hanging time…
I also don’t believe BIBs claim, not that I don’t think it’s possible to gain 4 inches in 2 years, maybe not 4 but 3 is doable especially when peole gain over 1,5 inches in general after hanging more than 1 year, but BIB has NO PHOTOS. For a guy with his rep, he should’ve had at least ONE photo of maybe his starting stats compared to his later stats, not necessarily his newest photos….

Yes. If it works is the keyword. If it works there is every right to try to do it more with a careful consideration where the limit goes for extra efforts. Are they bringing that much more or are you just making your unit harder to stretch day by day. I am not the one to answer it as I am not seasoned hanging veteran with that much experience.

But if doesn´t work. If you are not gaining from hanging few hours a day you are not going to gain even if you change your name to Bib and double your efforts and come a master of hanging regimes. Something else is needed to make it happen or even retire from PE to free one´s mind from banging their heads to a wall.

Database in this site says that 30 % of the population from the gathered data did not gain anything at all. Who the hell is going to simply tell them “Look what Bib did”.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Database in this site says that 30 % of the population from the gathered data did not gain anything at all. Who the hell is going to simply tell them “Look what Bib did”.

That does not mean shit.
Statistically speaking, I know from League of Legends that roughly 60-70% of humankind is literally >trash<.
The bottom tier, bronze, is made up of roughly 40-50% of the playerbase (over millions).
These consist of either casuals but also a bunch of try hards that try for years but cant climb out.
Then the next tier is silver.
Basically, if you were to judge these people from the perspective of a Diamond player, all ranks from bronze, silver, gold to plat are LITERALLY poop level.
Mid platinum people get technically good, but still lack game knowledge.

Now, mid plat and above is like top 5%.

You can reflect that shit back to all humankind.
Given enough time, enough resources for learning and studying, roughly 90% simply stay “shit”.
They do not learn, they do not get better. They repeat the same shit expecting a different outcome… over and over and over again… madness!
Now…. DO YOU THINK it is any different in any other domain in life.
Lets say….. PE?!?!

Edit
The biggest problem with these people is that they point fingers elsewhere than themselves, they say its their fault. So they deny any possibility to improve by
identifying the problems they themselves have (lack of skill, map awareness, etc. etc.).
Even among those that do not point fingers and that try to improve, many fail to be consistent with it and when they get stressed or 5 man raped, being alone, without help of team, they start
pointing fingers at their team and ask questions like why they did not help, instead of adjusting their map movement, vision game, movement predictions etc. etc.
Same shit with PE. If you do not analyze it, learn from your mistakes, improve your routine etc, you will stay “trash” tier!
/Edit

There is no difference!
People in general, really really suck.
And people are in general, really really stupid.

Instead of 30% failing, 80% should fail at PE.
But since only 30% are failing, it is actually saying something: gaining is easier than one might think it is.
After all, some literal retards are gaining.


Then: 6.5 BPEL | 5.5 NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG | 5.0 BEG

Now: 8.11 BPEL | 7.24 NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG | 5.0 BEG

Goal: 9x6 || My journal

Originally Posted by ehlolol

There is no difference!
People in general, really really suck.
And people are in general, really really stupid.

Instead of 30% failing, 80% should fail at PE.
But since only 30% are failing, it is actually saying something: gaining is easier than one might think it is.
After all, some literal retards are gaining.

You are right and as PE can be done very profitable, those 30% included in statistics and even bigger percentage of all users are not going to gain anything.
Even if they are given all what is needed on a silver plate. As human we are.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
You are right and as PE can be done very profitable, those 30% included in statistics and even bigger percentage of all users are not going to gain anything.
Even if they are given all what is needed on a silver plate. As human we are.

Yeah just like Jordan peterson says 30% of the population is too dumb to contribute anything to anything, better not expect these people to actually understand how to properly perform PE when they can’t even do simple arithmetics or learn how to drive a car.

Just so happens that the big gainers on this forum are usually also the most well spoken polite and helpful people, what a “coincidence” I guess not.

Originally Posted by HenrikL
Yeah just like Jordan peterson says 30% of the population is too dumb to contribute anything to anything, better not expect these people to actually understand how to properly perform PE when they can’t even do simple arithmetics or learn how to drive a car.

Just so happens that the big gainers on this forum are usually also the most well spoken polite and helpful people, what a “coincidence” I guess not.

Unfortunately disability to produce gains is just not all that simple. There are also physical limitations as some have already figured out.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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