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Penis Size: The True Average

When I now have an above-average dick. - 9GAG
It has spread outside our part of the internet!
Second line of comments, starting with "A new study went out in Europe. 9 something in casual stance, 13 something while erected."
Casual Stance. Gotta love it.

People there can’t believe it either, and they are not even talking about BPEL.


Start 06.2012 BPEL: 6.1" EG: 5.3" Current BPEL: 7.1" EG: 5.6" Goal BPEL: 7.5" EG: 6"

I understand the study did merely what we did here in the thread in a more detailed counting way.
old guys with mediocre penis health or youngs not fully grown but 100% eq etc.. in mass will even out the realsitic view.

Im having a bit trouble making my point I think

There are so many factors that a perfect study is impossible. We could play that game forever.
The median average will always differentiate. always!
The reason is the narrow distribution of percentages where most are within a 1 inch frame.
So to get to a amount that is realistic you cant use a definite number which this meta study shows.(while not claiming it themselves)

The standard deviation is mostly within an inch through all studys. While the median average is all over the place within the standard deviation of most other studies.
Sometimes on top sometimes on the bottom of the standard deviation compared to each other.

The distribution is so narrow for MOST of human penises that 90% fall into this range.
Thus creating a huge mass of people that are all average in some way(!).
The 5% bigger and smaller are much rarer in comparison. Still many of them are out there due to the sheer mass in overall humans. The more a woman fucks around the higher the possibilities to get an above average dick.

I think that isnt understood …thedistribution and thus the standard deviation which makes it impossible to declare a definite MEDIAN average.
The bell curve will make most of the men average.
No matter if 4.6, 5.0 , or 5.8 inches ! lol.
Thats why a 6.0 guy might get no comments about beeing big cause the possiblitie for a given woman to get many men that arent much smaller(its only fractions of an inch!!!) is pretty high!
Thats the reality.

In a 40 000 football stadium with men you will have a mass of somewhat average dicks.
4.5 - 6 BPEL. 36 000 of them all within about 1 inch.
2x2000 will be bigger and smaller then that range. With a bunch of ultra micro dicks and huge monstercocks.
Now make an anouncement about measuring everyone if they want and one were everyone has to!

What will happen? Two studys with a much different median average but a more close standard deviation range. Both standard deviations combined will give a realistic view about the dicks in the stadium.

Originally Posted by brainhans

It has spread outside our part of the internet!

People there can’t believe it either, and they are not even talking about BPEL.


It was first on reddit and direct discussed and it shows that some educated guesses are right while most are brainwashed by media and porn.
Again, the problem is that most people dont understand what average means in different sample sizes and contexts.

^^^^ @dicker - So, what then?

I respect your comments, but honestly don’t get the point. The outcome is the same, whatever terms are used.

Besides, in the end this topic’s been hammered to death. An “average” figure is not really going to satisfy anybody that his cock is big enough. There are many reasons for being unsatisfied with cock size that go far beyond being unsure of whether or not one is “average”.

Example: I’ve always thought I was at the least average and probably a bit above. That’s never made me feel greatly satisfied and confident about my dick.


STARTING STATS - 02/02/2015: BPEL 7.6 --- MEG 5.25 --- 5.25" with semi erection; but 5.16 MEG with 100% boner; BEG 5.47

CURRENT - 13/03/2015: I had to check a few times, but I'm pretty sure I got a genuine BPEL 7.8!! Will check girth again in a couple of weeks

GOAL: BPEL 8.50 --- MEG 5.5 --- BRING IT ON! (I've revised my goals for the time being; maybe I was being too ambitious too early on)

olive_oyl89, I agree with this.

I suck in what I wanted to convey regarding the mathematics of using a range vs. a defined number. and then how it helps getting a realistic view.

Range vs definite number.
We searched in this thread for a definite number but we wont find one.(obviously!)
But we can define a range cause 90% of people are within a rather narrow range.
The distribution in this range is rather stable. A Bell curve with the top of the bell(90%) beeing all average.

I attempted to derrive from that some realitys.
Most woman dont care about dick size cause there is not much possiblitiy to choose between vastly different sizes.
A woman getting 20 dicks in her life will with high probability have had only average dicks within a close range. Probably no very small nor very big dicks.
Similar for us its very hard to give a definite size to a dick in a movie without much reference. Cause it all happpens within such a narrow range.

Im so invested in it cause it made me years ago crazy. now its very interesting.


Last edited by dickerschwanz : 03-05-2015 at .

Maybe it is my hatred for math and figuring out stats, but I still wonder where 7.4x5.2 BPEL fits in exactly, once 1 or 2 standard deviations are considered. Sad to say I haven’t had much experience ‘in the field’, so no comments one way or another to base anything off of….I assume ‘above average’, but I still question it being ‘big’ to the point there might be comments and reactions. Also my 1” fat pad really messes with my perception as well.

Personally I feel the average BPEL falls somewhere between 5.5-6”, and the average girth likely between about 4.7-5”. At least in my own head, I see it likely that taking 0.5” or so off the lows would be called small, and adding 0.5” to the highs would be considered big. Not sure if my logic is badly flawed or not.


Current: BPEL 8"/NBPEL 6.75" MEG 5.2", BPFL 6.75"/NBPFL 5.5" FG 4.5"

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Realistic Goal: BPEL 8.5"/NBPEL 7.5" EG 5.5" | Optimistic: BPEL 9"/NBPEL 8" MEG 5.75" | Dream: BPEL 10"/NBPEL 9" MEG 6.5"

Originally Posted by Phoenix7672
Maybe it is my hatred for math and figuring out stats, but I still wonder where 7.4x5.2 BPEL fits in exactly, once 1 or 2 standard deviations are considered


Lets see lol..

Of course a fat pad would be discounted in the numbers given BPEl measurements. But for a any observer it is there.

Your BPEL length is much longer then the average.
It could visualy be labelled as long with and without a +1 fat pad. Of course position and body size are important too.
For most pussy its already very long and for some would be bordering too much.(given techniques arousal etc.)

Your girth is at the top range of average.
A woman who had dicks from the lower range of average would maybe say its “thicker then usual”.
As it is still within average most woman wont have problems with it. A few would want more and and a few less.

In volume your size is big. From looking at the measurement it probably looks longer then thicker.

as about 90% are within a rather narrow range almost all woman(probably 90%) can take almost all dicks within that range with satisfaction based on technique and body composition etc.
Which means its suitable to make a woman want more sex/kids lol.

Everything much below and much above that range can cause problems or interest from people of the “extremes” who are outside the 90%.
Like average length but much bigger girth. Or much bigger length and average girth. Or much smaller girth and normal length. or both etc.

Now as one can see scaled up the “extremes” of the 5% very big and very small are still not uncommen in a larger sample size. In shorter sample sizes they skew the proportions considerably.
Its like in a town of 10 000 people you get some very big ones outside the standard deviation as some very small ones but most are average. Like about 9000. and thats only about length.
So yo ucan see how one very long can mess with the minds of thousands lol(cause of insecurities and lack of mathematical skills lol).

[/]Now get 1000 college kids using the internet talking B.S having no clue about statistics, body physiology or common sense.[/b] and there you have your penis problem lol.

Originally Posted by dickerschwanz

as about 90% are within a rather narrow range almost all woman(probably 90%) can take almost all dicks within that range with satisfaction based on technique and body composition etc.
Which means its suitable to make a woman want more sex/kids lol.

Everything much below and much above that range can cause problems or interest from people of the “extremes” who are outside the 90%.
Like average length but much bigger girth. Or much bigger length and average girth. Or much smaller girth and normal length. or both etc.

Now as one can see scaled up the “extremes” of the 5% very big and very small are still not uncommen in a larger sample size. In shorter sample sizes they skew the proportions considerably.
Its like in a town of 10 000 people you get some very big ones outside the standard deviation as some very small ones but most are average. Like about 9000. and thats only about length.
So yo ucan see how one very long can mess with the minds of thousands lol(cause of insecurities and lack of mathematical skills lol).

I guess that is part of it…what does it take to get into that top 5%? Not sure what that translates to in terms of BPEL, MEG, or volume.


Current: BPEL 8"/NBPEL 6.75" MEG 5.2", BPFL 6.75"/NBPFL 5.5" FG 4.5"

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Realistic Goal: BPEL 8.5"/NBPEL 7.5" EG 5.5" | Optimistic: BPEL 9"/NBPEL 8" MEG 5.75" | Dream: BPEL 10"/NBPEL 9" MEG 6.5"

Originally Posted by Phoenix7672
I guess that is part of it…what does it take to get into that top 5%? Not sure what that translates to in terms of BPEL, MEG, or volume.

Lets say it this way: You are surely above average when you are over the average range in girth and length.

The average range ends probably somewhere around 6 bpel tops and then drops in distribution considerably.
For girth somewhere around 5.25
Everything that extends that will be the top 5% at least stisticly.

How it appears to you visually in relation to your body size fat pad ,eq and your partner is another ball park.

With your 7.5 bpel you are surely in the top 5% of length.
And some 0.3 girth more and you are there in girth top 5% while you are right now top average girth.

Its weird but thats how the statistical distribution works in this case.

Anyway the real take away is that almost all humans are average. And thats the point I wanted to make the last 2 pages lol.
And in my opinion with the right technique anyone within the average range can get 90% of woman to be satisfied..-> BY DESIGN! lol
If you have more then average you better know how to use it!!!


Last edited by dickerschwanz : 03-05-2015 at .

Originally Posted by Phoenix7672

I guess that is part of it…what does it take to get into that top 5%?

6.3” or 16 cm.

And there would be only one on 50 with 7” or higher.

Originally Posted by olive_oyl89
I feel ya. I too have never really known what to think about this issue. It’s very confusing.

I mean, girth-wise, at the MOST (with proper erection) I’ll get to 5.2”-5.25” MEG. And yet, some of the women I’ve been with, who had had MANY previous partners, seemed to indicate that they thought my thickness (for a white man) was just normal. More than one of them thought they’d seen quite a few thicker cocks, and not so many skinnier ones. This makes me seriously doubt an average erect girth of 4.6! It surely cannot be. But then, what’s my personal experience VS a supposedly robust study?

If it’s of any value to the discussion, with a BPEL of 7.6” and a NBPEL of > 7”, I have got many “big” or “huge” comments for length, and again from women of great experience. This has always suggested to me that the average length is quite substantially less than those figures, as this study suggests. But honestly? Average of only 5.2” NBPEL among Caucasians? No damn way! I call foul!

Maybe some sort of fat-pad factor? There’s a lot of obesity in Europe, US and the Middle East. I can’t see any other way to account for these figures. But then, what about the girth statistic?

Lol, you’re surprised that the average according to this study is 5.2 inches NBPEL. Let me correct you- this study claims that the average is 5.2 inches BPEL. I would personally not even believe it is 5.2 inches NBPEL, but 5.2 inches BPEL is absolutely ridiculously insanely crazy- TOTAL BS. But again, this study took most of its erect length and erect girth measurements from an Indian study. On average it’s proven Indians have a smaller average- a while back there was a study on how a large majority of Indians had trouble with international condoms. So, it makes sense why this study has such a low average.

Originally Posted by alimahmoud25

this study took most of its erect length and erect girth measurements from an Indian study. On average it’s proven Indians have a smaller average- a while back there was a study on how a large majority of Indians had trouble with international condoms. So, it makes sense why this study has such a low average.

I don’t think so, no one ever found a statistically significative difference in penile size among different ethnicities. I am not saying that there aren’t difference for sure, what I am saying and since now it is more proven the adverse statement, that there is no difference; nothing conclusively proven though. Anyway, be careful in not fallin in stereotypes. The Indian study measured the NBPEL I think, not the BPEL. So Indians would be longer than average race, according to this very same study.

Originally Posted by dickerschwanz
Anyway the real take away is that almost all humans are average.

Well of course most people are average, if you define average by “in the standard deviation range around the mean”

If you have ten guys, five with 1” and five with 10”, the mean would be 4.5” and sd. 4.74” so everyone would be average.but saying that they are all average does not contain any information about the distribution.


Start 06.2012 BPEL: 6.1" EG: 5.3" Current BPEL: 7.1" EG: 5.6" Goal BPEL: 7.5" EG: 6"

No study about penis size is reliable, all have flaws. This last sums the flaws of all the studies token as source. But we don’t have anything better. Take the one who looks most reliable to your eyes and go with it.

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