This is posted from Chrono’s excellent thread here;
Movin On Up
Its some concepts I have been considering.
First of all, congrats and really,really well done.
By "break over point" I was referring to the amount of time needed to finally get progress started.
Lets say a beginner can only do 3 minutes of jelquing before he decreases EQ, yet needs 5 minutes before its enough to stimulate gains. If he starts with the 3 minutes, he will see improved EQ, but not much gains. After a few weeks he is able to do more and soon is up to 5 minutes with great EQ, now having reached his "break over point" he starts to see gains.
Yes, I find hard erections have a stress effect on the penis. For some guys, its a very small effect and has almost no effect on his PE. For some guys it is a large effect and will throw his PE into neg EQ or PIs.
Now, I think for most guys, a few minutes of edging is easily tolerable, but for many, if you go for long edging sessions, it gives you the same stress as a PE session, but without any gain potential.
Thats again why I stress the physiologic approach. You can’t just do a routine from someone else, you must READ what effect it is having on you and make the appropriate changes, or else you greatly decrease your chances of success.
Getting back to hard erections, it seems that nite wood doesn’t have this stress effect, rather seems to have the opposite effect. This is why I have speculated that nite wood may be a critical aspect of cementing gains. Why nite wood has such a different effect compared to edging…I can only guess.
Perhaps nite wood is self regulating, and edging isn’t.
I think that PE or penile stress causes micro damage to the penis, and my guess is that smooth muscle is the first to be injured. I think it releases some type of chemical signal that leads to smooth muscle contraction, hence the "shrinkage".
Maybe nite wood, because it is not being controlled by the conscious mind and external stimulation (eg porn and stroking) it only continues as long as there is no or very little of that chemical signal. Therefore, you get all the benefits of increased blood flow and possibly GH and it shuts down at the very first indication of tissue stress, only to repeat later in the nite.
Edging or masturbation on the other hand can go deeply into mild tissue damage before you stop. And this isn’t tissue damage that contributes to growth, it is just smooth muscle damage and very little force to stretch tunica in a productive way.
This is all just wild speculation on my part, but it is not without some thought going into it.