Originally Posted by Foryourprivacy
Essential two questions, condensed: 1. How do in-session PIs relate to regular PIs?
2. If you get great initial PIs from a routine, but mediocre to no subsequent PIs from the same routine (and no negative PIs) - do you step it up or take a break? What if you’re already doing 2 hrs a day, no days off? Aargh.
Thanks.
1. “How do in-session PIs relate to regular PIs?”
If we were saying Indicators were a map to find “Big Dick Island” then PI’s are the major Interstate freeways, and EQ is the local roads.
PIs really are the major indicators as to general direction, EQ is used to fine tune essentially the positive PIs or a subset of the Positive PIs.
So lets take a look;
Lets start with some definite Negative PIs;
-pain
-decreased nite and morning wood
-decreased hardness of erections
-numbness
-discoloration
-loss of size
Now for the definite Positive PIs;
-larger flaccid hang lasting all day
-increased nite and morning wood
-increased hardness of erections
-increase of normal size
Neutral PIs;
-temporary penis contraction after a PE workout
-redness
-spotting
-slight achyness in your penis
-increased size temporarily, a few minutes to a couple hours
-edema in the penis skin
So your question is about “in session PIs”. Really the only “in session” ones that you should pay attention to is if you are getting pain. Obviously, you should be very careful if your PE is causing pain. It is usually an indicator to back off because you may be close to injury.
The rest of the PIs are to be observed AFTER you are done with your PE and you are accessing as to whether you are moving in the correct direction or not.
For example, you may be a clamper and get some numbness and discoloration DURING your routine, but are perfectly fine afterward.
Numbness during your PE might not be a big deal, but certainly if your PE is leaving your dick numb and discolored afterward and it lasts all day or more, its a BIG CONCERN! Get it?
So, really, the PI’s are when you are observing what your PE is doing to your dick AFTER your PE routine, or the RESULTS OR EFFECTS your PE routine is having on your dick.
2. “If you get great initial PIs from a routine, but mediocre to no subsequent PIs from the same routine (and no negative PIs) - do you step it up or take a break? What if you’re already doing 2 hrs a day, no days off? Aargh.”
Physiology, or the response of a living organism to stress is ALWAYS a moving target. Living organisms seek to ADAPT to stress, to survive. This is what is tricky with PE.
We seek to cause the penis to grow or expand, but you have to understand, this is STRESS to the penis and will seek to adapt to that stress. If you get it right, it ALSO grows as part of its adaptive response. If you get it wrong, it just gets tougher and or loses function.
So, many times, we find what caused a “good” response one day, might not the next. Usually this is either because the stress is starting to accumulate and the penis is unable to recover enough in time for the next workout.
Or it’s at first enough, but the penis adapts to the stress and it now is no longer “enough”.
If you’ve ever done wt training you might have had a similar experience. You start lifting wts and for a few sessions you seem pretty strong, but then you come back and you are far weaker. You wonder what happened?
Well, you were stressing your body, and your body kicked in its adaptive mechanisms and was keeping up for a while, but finally you exhaust all its backup systems and you crash. You weren’t giving it enough time to recover from the stress before you added more stress, and you overloaded your adaptive responses and you got weaker.
This is the same with PE. Sometimes we find an amount of PE that’s pretty close, but after a few days, you see EQ start to drop. Well, you have to figure out whether its too much and stress is accumulating OR if its slightly too little and adaptation is kicking in.
I think one of the easiest ways to tell is take a day off. If it was too much, that day (or two)off will show an increase of EQ. If its too little, EQ will probably drop a little more.
So, if you have PIs down pat, great. Now get very familiar with EQ and use that to fine tune your workout.
Observe, record and experiment. Remember, don’t change too many perimeters at once, it will become totally confusing.
So for example, if you think your routine is pretty good, experiment with taking a day off or adding a day. OR, you could slightly change your time under load (TUL). OR you could slightly change your force level. For example jelque a little harder or softer, or drop vacuum from 5 in hg to 4 in hg.
What you DON’T want to do, is change a bunch of those perimeters at the same time, great way to totally waste the time put in. Pick one that you feel is most out of whack and begin to change it and observe and record your response to that change. It will teach you a lot!