Originally Posted by ModestoMan
All those folks are from the old days of the forum. I always thought there were a large number of guys back then claiming some stupendous gains. The gains of the few guys around in the early days seemed much more impressive than the gains of the many guys around these days. Simple statistics would suggest that, as the forum grows in membership, the number of 3 inch gainers would increase roughly proportionally. Instead, the number has gone down—in fact, nearly to zero.
One explanation is that the alleged big gainers from the early days were bullshitters. Maybe they were even bullshitting themselves. One cannot know. Another explanation is that they were especially dedicated. They were the pioneers of PE; not like us me-too folks. They put in the effort where those who came later gave up too soon.
Personally, I would never want to gain 3”; it would make my dick unmanageably huge and I think my wife would kick me out of bed. The fact that a 3” or more gain would take a guy beyond what’s really usable and fun to have (assuming he starts at near average size) is another reason I tend not to believe many of these claims. A sane person would give up at 1-2 inch gain (IMO).
Interesting points, but statistical averages don’t always explain human accomplishment. Look back in the day when there were some absolutely amazing pitchers in baseball…when there were only 1/2 the teams in the majors. You would think that today there should be twice as many Drysdales, Koufaxes, Seavers, Ryans, etc. But there isn’t; in fact, I would argue there’s less today - with twice as many players.
This same argument could be made about the “isle of poets” - tiny England, even tinier in the 16th/17th century. So where’s our modern Shakespeares, Marlowes, Donnes, Jonsons, Spensers, Miltons, etc?
Anyway, I’m sort of on the fence about the “dedicated-early-pioneers” vs. “bullshitters.” I think its a little of both. I also remember reading some crazy shit, including some guy who was claiming that he built his girth to 9 inches.
Yawn.
Regarding those claiming the biggest gains, I am least skeptical about RB & YGuy. Not sure exactly why, but I always tended to believe their claims. And the way they worked so (maniacally) hard, got their gains, then kinda faded away…that’s probably how it really happens. Also, at least in the case with YGuy, he started very small - which could’ve fueled his obsession (far more so than a guy starting around “average”).
I came to quickly dismiss DLD’s claims. Regarding Bib, he sounded very erudite, concise, analytical…but I started to lose faith. One of things I couldn’t ignore was that while he was claiming a HUGE size (10.5” or more), he refused to post any pics. And this was a guy who made & sold cock hanging devices (wouldn’t a pick from the CEO with a donkey cock be a really great advertisement?). What’s more, I don’t buy the notion that posting a dick pic would’ve somehow did violence to his “sensibilities” since this cock hanger manufacturer even employed his own son in the business (I could never do that, yet I’ve posted a number of dick pics).
To answer the question…I’ve gained 2” EL, and I have no reason to believe that 3” gains are *impossible.* It has to do with an individual’s starting F:E (elasticity) and their level of dedication/obsession - and maintaining that drive over a very long time (which, as you’ve pointed out, isn’t “normal”).