The Length Before Girth Debate

There seems to be a lot of people who believe that one should reach their length goals first because “a thin rubber band is easier to stretch than a thick one”.

That does make sense, but what if someone has trouble gaining girth? What makes you think it’ll be easier to fill out your cock once you’ve stretched it if you can’t gain girth right now? Is it easier to make a longer dick fatter?

Lurk,

It is obviously very hard to say.I believe the rubber band principle, but I still do some girth exercise due to the make up of the tunica.I believe that some girth exercise actually heps me gain length.

I wouldn’t say I wasted my time, but I went from 5.75” to 6” nbpel quickly and in the same time went from 4.75” to 5.2” girth. I decided to concentrate on length and got my girth to 5.5” without gaining any length. I’ve since resigned myself to girth gains and it seems to be working like a banshee.

Still zip on length though. I think they’re independent of each other. Something down there refuses to budge outwards.

I hope more information comes out that shows that girth gains don’t hinder length.

If I had to choose one over the other I’d rather be thicker. Its girth that really makes the difference to a woman, and I think its girth that makes a dick look big.

But really I want both so I’m going with the current excepted theory and focusing on my lenght first.

Guys: This debate has been going on for a long time. I personally agree with both sides of the issue. First off, I’m sure Bib is right. There is no doubt that the rubber band theory is logical. We all want to believe that we can work both length and girth at the same time because PE is such a slow process, no one wants to waste even one minute of time. I honestly believe that if erect length is your goal and hearts desire you should work only length until that goal is met.

However, I also agree with Lurkmeat that it is girth that really matters most to women. Most of the women I talk with about this, and I do talk with every woman I have sex with about it (research for my book) they all agree that a fat dick feels better than a long one. I’ve said this before; Length is more of a guy thing. We all want that long dick that looks great in the locker room and on the nudist beaches. So I guess it all boils down to where your priorities lie. I do believe, however, that a fat dick is heavier than a thin one, therefore it hangs better and flaccid length gains go hand and hand with girth gains, and because my first priority is to impress women and my second is to look good on the nudist beaches, (where we are flaccid most of the time, ) I’ll stick with working both together. Hanging, ULIs in between sets and pumping to cement girth gains. That’s the routine I choose.

BG

I have mixed thoughts on this issue.

A certain amount of girth is helpful for hanging because it allows more adjustment of the hanger and provides more gripping area. I don’t know how much is ideal, but at 4.75” erect, I’d prefer another 1/2” or so to make better use of the adjustments.

For many guys, me included, girth is much harder to come by than length. Delaying girth worth until after your length goals are met may greatly extend the PE process.

Doing both at the same time may work synergistically. In my case, I’ve gained some length from what was supposed to be a girth-oriented routine. Blowing it up and then stretching it out may be better than just stretching it out.

OTOH, I find it difficult to do both effectively at the same time. Girth work interferes with hanging because of fluid buildup and shaft soreness. As tempting as it is to do something for girth, I try to leave it alone when I’m on a dedicated hanging schedule.

Alternating length and girth may be a good way to go. Allow the ligs to decondition while hitting girth for a few months and vice versa.

It depends what kind of length you’re trying to gain. Girth shouldn’t inhibit lig gains, but probably is bad for tunica gains.

I agree with Big Girtha that girth is much more important than length for nearly all women. I want my dick longer mainly so that it will *look* awesome; I don’t expect it to make an earth-shattering difference in sex, except for CDS stimulation.

Edit: Hobby is right — one good reason to focus exclusively on length or on girth is to avoid overloading your dick. I just thrombosed a vein last night (from base to upper-shaft, damnit!) from going overboard. Now I’ll need at least a week or two off, probably.

I’m currently following the eleastic band theory, but I started doing this before hearing the theory simply because I want to be able to see my penis appear longer in my hands when I hold it, and impress my girlfriend with its length and cds stimulation. :eek:

Girth may be better for women, but if you’re impatient like I am and you want to see gains soon, and since we can only view one side of the penis at a time (due to the positionig of our eyes), a large increase in girth won’t be as apparent as a large increase in length. A 2” increase in girth, only gives a 0.64” increase in diameter, which is what you’ll see looking down at your dick, but a 2” increase in length is a 2” increase in length.

But that’s just my opinion on the length/girth debate, because I want to see what “appear” to be larger gains to begin with to encourage me to keep going :up: (since I’ve only bee at this for only 1 1/2 months now). Then I’ll start working on girth with length maintenance once I reach my length goal - although I’ll probably actually still work on length too then, but with more empasis on girth!

If the thin vs thick rubber band theory is true, doesn’t that mean that it would be the same way the other way around also? I mean if you start by improving length and then girth.

If two penises are the same girth, but different length, the area of the tunica is of course larger in the longer one. This means that when the same internal pressure is applied on the two penises, there will be less pressure/square cm of tunica on the longer one. I’m mostly thinking of squeeze exercises like Ulis and Horse Squeezes.

Any thoughts from the experts?

Um… A 2 inch increase in girth will not even look like the same dick. It will be such a dramatic size difference!

Guys seeking length strictly through lig gains should not have to even consider this issue. Although I fall into this camp I have opted all along to completely separate length and girth work for the following reasons:

1. I prefer that all of my time and focus to be spent on one goal at a time. Over and over this approach has proven effective when embarking on a long and demanding project.

2. Although a 9:00 LOT such as mine was when I began hanging indicated considerable potential there is still no discounting the possibility of concurrent tunica gains when hanging at low angles. If there is merit to the Rubber Band Theory those potential tunica gains could be compromised.

3. I have always been convinced that the possibility of injury is increased when an overt amount of stress is concentrated on the tunica. There is no easier way to remain at your current size or have your motivation crushed than to be side-lined by injury.

The matter of a synergistic pay off resulting from working both length and girth concurrently is something that holds a great deal of attraction, but the more concrete “divide and conquer” approach holds too much promise for me not to go that route.

-Cap

Agreed Cap.

It is not a matter of debate. But a matter of science and physics. That is how the balloon theory came in to play.

Stretch a balloon laterally and lengthwise at the same time….how soon do you think it will pop? Now, stretch one at a time….it is more forgiving and will accommodate the stress.

BIB said it best: “the length delivers the girth.” They are both equally important. NO one wants a nine inch pencil dick or a 4 inch (length) coke can. There is a happy medium.

Further, I can use the analogy to the fellow bodybuilders/weightlifters on the sites…this is similar to the bulk up/gain muscle first or lean out/cut fat first. This debate has been going on since the beginning of time…

Like Cap said how effective are you when you are trying to go to different places at the same time?

As for me and my house: 9 BP then I’m on to girth…6 inches and them I’m out the game. And I won’t be coming back like Jordan. I’ll stay retired.

Likeness,

>If the thin vs thick rubber band theory is true, doesn’t that mean that it would be the same way the other way around also? I mean if you start by improving length and then girth.

If two penises are the same girth, but different length, the area of the tunica is of course larger in the longer one. This means that when the same internal pressure is applied on the two penises, there will be less pressure/square cm of tunica on the longer one. I’m mostly thinking of squeeze exercises like Ulis and Horse Squeezes.<

It does not seem to. Girth gains are made by an increase in internal pressure affecting the lateral bonds of the tunica. An increase in internal pressure will work as well on an eight inch shaft or a six inch shaft. I do not see how you came to the conclusion that internal pressure should be less on the larger shaft.

Bigger

Hi Philadelph,

of course my 2” girth example I used was an exaggeration, but its along the lines of my train of thought. Basically I meant that for myself looking down at my dick, a gain in length would be more noticeable to the same gain in girth, because what you see looking at the penis from just the one angle is the diamter of the penis. So a gain of 1” erect girth becomes a gain of 1/pi inches of erect diameter, which is 0.32”. Still considerable (especially if all added at once! :eek: ), and the girth adds a lot of weight, and means wider grips are needed to “manipulate” it, but visually I feel it wouldn’t have the same impact for me as a whole inch gained in length, escpecially since I need fast gains to begin with to keep encouraging myself (because I’m a slacker! :p )

Of course I can’t wait to reach my length goal and start putting some weight on my member to bulk him up from 4.8” EG! Although I’m actually in two minds as to whether or not I should bother trying to gain girth if it’ll make my 6” mushroom look less “mushroomy”! :-k

Yeah wow you do have quite a mushroom going on!