Thoughts on PE from johndough

**If someone could show a surgical or even better a non-surgical method for penis enlargement they would be rich and be recognized within the research community.**

They would be rich if they had a "quick fix". As of now most are not successful with PE for the same reason the majority of Americans are overweight. Laziness and lack of dedication. If you cannot do it quick and easy, most will not even bother with it.

Billions of dollars are made a year prying on men’s insecurities about their penis. Far more money can be made following this route then it would be to research, prove, then sell the information to gain manually, like you can following tutorials on thundersplace.

I have been doing PE since August of 2009. I measured over the course of 4 days several times a day to make sure my starting measurement was accurate. Look at my signature below to see my starting and current stats. I can ensure you with a family and two jobs I have better things to do then pretend to slowly gain over the course of almost two years just for the hell of it.

I couldn’t tell you with complete certainty how my penis enlarged. I know what I did to make it gain in size, I "think" I know the logic behind it, but myself and YOU can not explain it scientifically.

When I think of you trying to scientifically prove how PE may not be possible I can’t help but laugh.

Before you rely strictly on science to convince you otherwise about how successful we have been on thundersplace, do me a favor and read this. Eight Botched Environmental Forecasts | Fox News

Local “science of PE” chapter LBM?

That’s a bold statement to make, it might even be unfair. I don’t think it’s that non-gainers are any more outspoken, it’s that they’re comments have a much higher chance of being read, scrutinized, and (especially in this thread) attacked. Why? Because it’s not acceptible.

How many new threads pop-up on a daily basis about some newbie achieveing massive gains in an incredibly short amount of time. We don’t question these guys because it’s an "accepted" idea and not much attention is paid to it.

But when someone starts a thread about doing PE for a year and not gaining anything, people flock to the thread like flies on shit. Just look at the attention this thread got - Over a year in PE and next to no gains. suggestions. In this case, it wasn’t a bad thing. It’s great that so many people ran to that thread to help the guy. But, I’ve started threads like that before and the reaction was not quite as nice. I’ve received comments like "you’re not doing it right" and "wow, sucks to be you." Like I said earlier in this thread, I’ve actually been acused several times of lying about NOT gaining just to get attention.

My point: the gainers far outnumber the non-gainers here, so when someone comes along and shouts ideas of skepticism, it’s different and certainly not, shall we say, "popular" amongst the masses. Look at how some people have resorted to insulting johndough in this thread. :down:

And how many of THOSE people added anything valuable to the thread?

Yes perhaps a little too political on my part. But I didn’t say a thing about “man-made.” :-)

Well, the way “they” are crunching the number (and making them up when they have to) maybe all global warming actually is “man made”. Or maybe “man made up”.

Based on the link you provided, ‘proven’ is the adjective as in "the proven method", while ‘proved’ is the verb, like "this has not been proved." In other words, this is an opportunity for you to improve your grammatical skills.

Nope. What I continue to say is : try it and see if it works for you. When everybody will have done this, we will count how many will say : ‘It has worked for me.’. and how many ‘It has not worked for me’. And anybody who cares to answer is counted a 1 vote. Loud or not. :)

What is more scientific, saying : “Studie have demonstrated that PE works for very few guys, so it will not work for me.”, or saying: “PE has worked for me, so I deduct it works for me”. ?

So, uh, do you plan on adding something valuable to this thread?

So far you’ve insulted people and held an english grammar class. Thanks.

Can you please keep your grammar talk to your own thread Writing a Book / Grammar Question

Well if you put it like that UFGator, I was going to say…

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And what I mean with all of that is to contribute to your quality of life by helping you improve your ability to communicate properly.

Matutinal, don’t resort to grammar nazism in a thread like this, it will only discredit you.

My question remains: are you planning on adding anything valuable to THIS thread?

I think there are three categories of people who do post way more than the average: 1) big gainers; 2) postwhores - like me; 3) hard gainers and injured people. Who, most of the times are young and tend to react aggresively even when someone try to help them.

It’s bold statement? I don’t think, I’m just basing on what I’ve read around here.

About not being acceptable, FYI some of mods were hard or non gainers.

This kind of threads are the most ‘scrutinized’, actually. No vets here has ever given the idea : ‘You can gain 1” in three weeks’ or similar things.

I have missed those insults, but : if gainers far outnumber non-gainers, as you have recognized, what this skepticism is based on? And why it should be popular among the members? (I’m not going to use the term masses, you know, it would be like saying that I’m the elite).

Okay dude, point taken! But I can’t help but notice the folks who take authoritative stances but haven’t got an elementary grip on the English language.

Again, lighten the fuck up, please.