It seems that if you look at stats on members here, there was a point where their flaccid length almost become permanent. I am currently hanging with an lg and it works great. I have been really trying to take it slow so that I do not go to heavy and create scar or toughening of the ligament. I did newbie x4 extender all last summer and then moved to the lg. I started hanging late October and I am only up to 10 pounds twice a day for an hour each time. My BP I’m sitting at 7 and am starting to see some signs of length increases and my penis just feels more “plump” when erect. My question is, I still battle turtling. Some guys on here seem to reach a point where the turtling stops. I wear a girth band to prevent turtling but when I don’t have it on there are times that just aint good. I’m happy with my erect progress but would like insight from anyone on the flaccid side. Any experience you guys have would be great. Thanks.