Not much length from hanging.

Been PEing with help from here since Feb 06. I’m in my 4th month (October) of hanging now. I started at 5 lbs now at 8.75 lbs. I hang an hour a day sometimes more 5 on 2 off. I measured 2 weeks ago and had no gain for month of Sept when I was hanging 7.5 lbs.

Can some of you vet hangers tell me what else I can do to get some real gains from hanging. I did make a Vac hanger hopefully that will help since I can hang for more than 20 min at a time. I am getting something out of it though, I can tell my base is getting bigger it improved by .187” in girth. (B/bat shape) I’m hoping this is a sign that length is coming.

Since starting in Feb I gained .250” total in length and I’ve been PEing religiously. :(

Hang routine:

5 min warm wash cloth.

Morn man stretch 30 sec hold diff directions 3 sets.

Eve hang at least 1 hr not counting 10 min rest periods.

Heat pad for first 10 min of 1st and 2nd set.

I also Uli and Kegal - morn and night.

Thanks

wantit2bbig,
Given your girth I think that you need more weight to get things going. It is nice to take things slow initially with hanging so don’t feel that you have wasted time. Another way to increase the stress on the tissues is to vary the angles. If you are hanging SO then try hanging SL (Straight Left) or SR. If you are hanging OTS then try OTRS (Over the right shoulder) or OTLS… SD then try ORL )Over right leg… get the picture? This is the “divide and conquer theory” or “how do you tear a telephone book in half…one page at a time.”

Have you tried a rice sock? I mention this because I used to use the warm wash cloth and IMO it became cool too quickly. The rice sock is easy to make and heat in the micro. It gets pretty hot and stays that way for 5 to 10 minutes.

Good luck with continued gains,
sheLovesIt

SLI,

Thanks for reply. So what weight should I be hanging at by now? I hang mostly SD not quite BTC. I also do a little SO but that’s it. I’d like to try OTS. I thought I’d get more from SD and work on tunica later. My LOT is around 8. I use the W/C at the sink then go hang so W/C is hot for each min. I’ll make a rice sock.

Most if not all of my gains are from hanging. The vast majority from hanging BTC or close to it and at 10-14lbs.

Try experimenting with increased time and intensity (i.e. more sets at a higher weight). Try and find a weight that you can just about comfortably hang for the 20minute set.

Also, check out this thread: Xeno’s method - results after my first campaign

wantit2bbig,
The amount of weight is selected based on the level of fatigue you are experiencing during your hang session. You must design your routine so that you reach fatigue (not pain, not biting your lip, not sweating while stairing at the clock). Then your goal is to do this as often as possibly while avoiding negative PI’s (Physiological Indicators - search).

Fatigue for me is when I cannot hang my max weight for at least 8 to 10 minutes after at least 4 sets of 15-20 minutes (including a warm-up set at 1/2 my max). So say my max is 15 lbs (at a particular angle). I warm up with 7.5 lbs for 20 minutes. I might even change the weight mid-set to 10 lbs if I am feeling strong. Second set might be 12.5 lbs for 20 minutes. Third set might be 15 lbs for 20 minutes. Fourth set might be 15 lbs for maybe 15 minutes. My fifth set would be 15 lbs and hope to get at least 8 minutes.

Once I can do two sets of 15 lbs for 20 minutes then I would bump my max weight to 16.25 lbs. I don’t get too scientific about it. It is just a gut feeling about which weight to use. I do feel that 15-20 lbs is a good range. I do not plan to go over 20 lbs. Instead I would try to get 2 workouts a day.

I think that focusing on SD (almost BTC) is a great angle to start with. You can try UTRL and UTLL (Under right leg…)

I am coming off a deconditioning break and ramping up the weight carefully. I am getting nice fatigue and so far no serious negative PI’s. My flaccid length after a workout has never been better so I am hoping that even though my BPFSL is not gaining my BPEL is.

sheLovesIt

iamaru, Mr. Fantastic & sheLovesIt,

Are you guys old-school Bib style hangers or new-school xenolith style hangers?

I am not hanging yet. I am just gathering information at this point. I am just asking ahead of time so I can form a game plan.

It seems that Bib’s style is accepted as orthodoxy, with a long track record with many who have on this program. And xeno’s, while newer and obviously with less who have gained using it because of with less time of the formula having been in use, the theory seems to be that more gains are possible because of less tissue toughening…

Anyway, which way do you guys hang?

Yea, I don’t do that. I keep one weight for a month. I guess I better start doing it the way you guys do with more weight adjustments and angles. I got one prob going to 15 lbs. My head is on the small side and it can’t take too much of pulling on it. I get pain on the top and sides right at circ scar. Any ideas to make it more comfortable? What are your gains guys?

Thanks

Same here.

I think the first three months was foundational, not going to slow or starting too low.

I also think that when I was doing manual girth work, that was absorbing length gains for a month or more so until I quit working on girth.

Fatigue and not absolute weight is what produces gain. I saw a 3/8” gain from 15 to 17 pounds. You can feel when something is stretching. You don’t want to go too fast because you just make scar tissue and then you’re out.

Tivase,
I have tried both schools starting with Bib’s. I credit this phase with 1/2” of gains which followed my newbie gains of 3/4”. One thing that I do differently than strict Bib hanging is I ramp up slowly to my max weight instead of hitting it straight away and then dropping down. I have tried it the strict Bib way and it seems that I fatigue too soon and then develop negative PI’s.

When I tried the less-is-more (xeno) style I did not gain. I did that following an 3-4 week-long experiment in which I did very heavy weight (22+) for several minutes (many negative PI’s) so maybe I was overtrained. I took a long ( 6 mo. )decon break from hanging (but not all PE). I came back to hanging and I am doing the Bib style method ramping up the weight. I have not seen gains yet but my gut feeling is that by Christmas I should know if I can gain anymore from hanging.

I think that if you focus on fatigue (age old advice here) you can gain using either method. I have a very tough tunica. My erection is bulletproof so I believe that is why I am a hard gainer and need the Bib style method.

good gaining to you,
sheLovesIt

wantit2bbig,
As far as comfort. I have found that removing the gel, using a HTW and black theraband (one step lighter than silver) produces the most comfortable I have ever experienced. I have the blue theraband (two steps lighter than silver) and plan to try that next.

My hanging gains are 1/2” following 3/4” newbie (stretch and jelq) gains.

sheLovesIt

SLI,

I don’t have a Bib. I have a Cap Wench and my own make Vac hanger. My Vac hanger is working good I hung 10 lbs for over 1.5 hrs with very little slippage. Man I’d love to gain 1.25” that’s great. I also do fowfers hoping to gain 1.5 in flaccid. Do you guys use a ADS alot?

wantit2bbig,
If you want 1.25” bad enough, you’ll get it my friend.

I built a wench but used it only once. It came off to easily. This was before people started putting cable clamps around them. I already owned the Bib hanger so I stuck with that. I am sure that the wench can do the job but if you can afford the Bib hanger I strongly suggest you get one. If you have never seen one up close then you cannot appreciate the innovation of the one known as Bib. Mine has never slipped off and now that I have become very good at wrapping and adjusting I can’t imagine a better hanger.

Fatigue, fatigue, and fatigue. No fatigue, no gains.

I have a home-made ADS, I used to wear about 4 hours a day. I backed off because I think it was giving me negative PI’s. I tend to think that the break between hanging sessions is needed so that the soreness in the shaft has time to heal. I wear the ADS when I want a good stretch before any PE workout.

sheLovesIt

Have you tried using a fulcrum?