Condom pumping

MrTips,

You are brilliant!

Let us know if you are getting overall progress from this.

I have been trying all kinds of variations of pumping. I ended up going back to using a condom.

I have been doing a lot of jelquing with the tube, and despite lubrication, I was rubbing some skin off the head…every stinkin’ time! Got sick of waiting for it to heal. This even happened with water pumping.

So…duh! I put on the condom and it not only solved the problem, but it also prevents skin bruising I get when I go over 5 in hg.

I have been doing the jelquing, in order to cycle the pressure. I cycle up from 3 in hg to 5 in hg, now I can safely go up to 6 without skin bruising, from using the condom.

I haven’t seen much progress of length in the tube for a while. So yesterday I went back to what I originally started when I first started PE a few months ago, and had good success.

I cycle the pressure with the pump, not jelquing, up to 6 in hg for about 20-30 secs, and then drop it back down to about 1 in hg for 20-30 sec. I do that for about 20-30 minutes. I quit doing that months ago, because of the skin bruising I was getting. I have tried all kinds of things, I see that that was the most effective technique I have ever used. Now with the condom, I can do it without beating my penis up too badly.

I will see what happens when I combine IR heat, some stretching and jelquing with the cycling and condom. The only other thing is I think I really have to watch frequency and duration…more is NOT better and I think that I may be limiting my growth by doing too much.

I think a good rule of thumb is nocturnal erections. I see that if I go too long, I get less nocturnal erections, and I think that is indicative of the amount of tissue damage. It may be that I should keep the current duration, but try every other day. That or decrease duration and stay at daily. It may very well be that is what will be best. I’ll let you all know.

Sparkyx

Sparkyx,

Thanks for a really inciteful post - I concur as your experience pretty much matches some of my own observations when it comes to manual pumping and cycling pressures and moving the tube around. It is precisely for that reason that I also have a CTC3000 that automatically cycles the pressure. I have been alternating between CTC sessions and manual pumping sessions to try and identify what, if any, different effects one would experience. By jelqing with the tube I can get some, but not all of the effects of the CTC3000 - so, they are different and maybe significantly different. I know my unit feels different between sessions but my observations so far, since it is very early in the game, are qualitative in nature and not quantitative. I like to use both methods. What you describe in your post somewhat endorses my use of the CTC3000. I expect it will take me a lot of time and experimentation to “sort out” the various factors, condoms/sleeves not-withstanding.

If the pumping issues were not complex enough, then there is the use of the penimaster/andro stretching to add in, too. I use pumping in combination with heat and at least 4-6 hours a day in a stretcher. Reference the stretcher, I am experimenting with a Penimaster, too, and I have come up with a really comfortable strapping method that works better for me than anything I’ve seen or tried here-to-for including the rubber straps supplied by the Penimaster folks. I use the Penimaster plastic head piece but, instead of their rubber straps which do not really fit the contour and shape of my glans and circ scar area very well, I came up with a replacement strap that is very comfortable and extremely easy to use, too. Here are the details (I suppose this ought to be in a different thread but what the heck . . .):

I took two pieces of 3/4-inch wide adhesive-backed Velcro about 15 inches in length, peeled the paper backing, and stuck them together back-to-back so I had the rough, Velcro nylon “hooks” on one side and the soft Velcro mating pad on the reverse side. You see, 3/4 inch wide Velcro in this double-backed fashion fits nicely into the strap grooves of the Penimaster headpiece. Before threading the Velcro into the headpiece, I first threaded one end of the Velcro strap about 6 inches through the center opening of a jelly tips big toe guard. This makes a wonderful cushion for the strap. Now, since I am right-handed, I threaded about 5 inches of the Velcro (soft-side facing down) cushioned end through the left slot of the Penimaster headpiece with the headpiece oriented in the same direction relative to the body as if it were fully mounted and in use. Then I doubled the Velcro back onto itself and onto about 3/4 inch of the upper exposed surface of the jellytip sleeve thus fully securing the Velcro strap to the headpiece and trapping the jellytip cushion. Then I threaded the loose end of the Velcro strap through the right slot of the head piece and left a loop large enough to slip my wrapped unit into the head piece and then tightened the strap untill the jellytip cushion made solid contact. Then I wrapped the velcro onto itself thus capturing the entire contact area of the head piece. This amount of Velcro wrapped onto itself does not interfere with the Penimaster bars just clearing them. It is much, much easier to put on and take off and the comfort difference is just remarkable owing to the use of the jelly tip toe cushion. BTW, I use J&J 2-inch wide surgical gauze for a modest circ scar wrap.

Bottom Line - NOW I have a very comfortable stretcher to use in concert with my pumping program. I can go up to 3 hours with the stretcher at a stretch (pun intended) but normally I disconnect after an hour or so just to make sure about circulation. Heat, pumping and stretching - all in moderation - constitute my approach. And, I intend to use the “condom sleeve” too, for the demonstrated benefit of limiting fluid build up and focusing the pumping forces in a more advantageous manner.

Anyway Sparkyx, “brilliant” I am certainly not - but, bullheaded!? . . . A much better description (LOL).

All the Best,

MrTiPS

Please keep us posted as to your gains. The only problem is we won’t know what did what other than to say that your program does/doesn’t work.

Wishing you good gains,

Sparkyx

Hi All - Kia ora from Aotearoa New Zealand :)

I’ve read this thread over the last week so this morning I decided to give it a go.

First, stats: uncirc’d, but cut frenum; erect 7”l and ~1.85”dia; pumped on and off (more off than on :( ) for 15 yrs.

I started of with some jelq type squeezes to try and get a rise from a cock that shrivels in the maw of a condom. Got enough courage and slipped it on to the base - as far as I could, given its state! Next, oiled the condom outside and slipped it into my pre-warmed 2.25” tube.

The session was quite an active one, lots of walking around, sitting, standing, doing stuff. Took pressure breaks every 10-12 mins or so for 1-2mins. Total pump time just over an hour. By the end, the condom was riding about 2” up from the base. I was packing the tube at my cock’s widest point.

Results: well, it’s a different result, alright! I still had vein definition in the covered part of the shaft, none at the base. But fuck! talk about totally hard shaft - it was the hardest, firmest, most well defined tunica/CC shape i’ve ever felt. It’s like others described - little skin inflation, heaps of CC. Because of my cut frenum I also had massive swelling in the skin released by the cut, which I quite like because it makes my head area look completely huge! My head, exposed throughout, also seemed to be bigger. (It spend 99.5% of its life covered by foreskin - but not this morning; the cut swelling is keeping it exposed.)

I’ll see how it behves during the day - going freeballing (yeah!).

Spotcha
Chris :) oUo

Welome Kiwi!

Sparkyx

Let us know if your post-pump engorgement, using a condom for pumping, lasts longer than it does for you without using a condom.

Glad you had a good first run-through and welcome to Thunders from Hawaii, and the rest of the world.

Hi all again

Thanks for the welcome words, avocet and sparkyx. Just thought I’d update the ‘day after’:

Firstly, there is not the usual amount of discoloration. In fact there’s almost none! I usually have discoloration from pumping an hour; and I suspect the pressure was at least the same as normal, if not harder…

2: my CC still feels ‘chubby’ - so it’s as long lasting as ‘puffy skin’ pumping.

That’s it from me for now. I am sooo pleased to have found this idea. Now just gotta get me a reliable source of good cheap condoms! (PS: used an Ansell straight one y’day)

Whatever you use, make sure it has a pretty tight fit. Works better that way, I’ve found.

Avocet,

I’ve been condom pumping for a few weeks now.

I started again primarily because I’ve been jelquing the tube a lot to simulate pressure cycling. It was beating the hell out of my dick! Lots of bruising and took the skin off in a few places.

The condom has allowed my dick to heal up nicely, and I can get away with jelqing to higher pressures.

What I’ve noticed it that my length in the tube hasn’t really increased, but I noticed that it is taking less vacuum to get my max length. Plus, I am filling the tube (girth) more and more.

I have an observation, and want to know your thoughts on it.

When I put on a few pounds of fat on (mostly around my waist), I notice that it makes my pants shorter!

It seems that expanding my waists diameter, it causes my pants to be pulled up slightly.

So…I’m wondering if you expand your girth…will it cause your penis to shorten slightly? I think it does.

Therefore, if in pumping you are increasing girth, yet maintaining length…it could very well be that you are indeed getting enough length to compensate for girth shortening your length.

Another example, take a balloon, fill it some air and tie it off. Now pull it out lengthwise, it will get thinner. If you mash it down, it will get shorter, but much thicker. Volumn stays constant!

However, you can make it longer and thicker only by increasing the volumn by putting in more air.

It has to be the same with the penis. If you increase girth by only stetching the penis width wise, it would shorten it.

Maybe thats where the rule of length before girth work came from. Maybe when guys work girth while trying to length, it doesn’t seem to progress as well. It may be because the increased length is masked by the natural shortening of girth work.

Of course, girth work like pumping, ulis and clamping should also increase length, but maybe it just keeps the length increasing enough to prevent the appearance of shortening.

Just an observation.

Sparkyx

You are correct about pants getting shorter if your waist expands; they do pull up some at the cuff. But this, pumping, is totally different as to function. Flesh as opposed to fabric.

But there may be something to the analogy. I’ve noticed that morning erections (on waking) are always thicker than sexual ones; they might be shorter, but I never investigated the length, only girth because I noticed it.

I think it is more likely that you are going to gain girth first, then length. Would that be alright with you?

Actually from a functional point of view, probably girth would tickle the Mrs. fancy better! :)

As far as flesh-fabric…I think that the fascial sheet is very much like a sheet of very tough fabric.

Anyway, still experimenting with the pumping routine. I don’t feel like I’m making much progress. Of course, I haven’t measured in months. I finally broke down and added jelquing and some stretching.

I have been experimenting with the higher vacuum tube jelques, I might go the other way and do longer time, lower vacuum and see how that goes.

The condom is a definite plus, for the beat up factor alone. Plus, we have something out here call the 99 cent stores. I can get a box of 12 condoms for one buck! Its great!

Regards,
Sparkyx

Sparky, probably you should have been doing _manual_ jelks from the start, between your pump sets. They add a lot. Also do heat wraps, in the beginning of your routine and even between pumps. Heat is your friend.

99 cents for 12? That would sure cut the cost of condom pumping.

Any thoughts on why that occurs? I’ve noticed the same thing myself.

Hey Avocet,

I use a IR lamp the whole time, so the heat aspect is covered.

Didn’t start with the manual jelques, because I didn’t like how it felt, and I didn’t want to develop the baseball bat shape.

Since that time, as I’ve gotten conditioned, the jelquing no longer feels so unnatural. I’ve also found out the the pumping tends the expand the base more, eliminating the baseball bat tendency.

Yeah, that 99 cent thing makes it downright economical!

Sparkyx

I’ve been doing double condom pumping with the extra-thick brand of trojans. I’m very pleased with the results, usually packing girthwise my 2” tube by the 3rd or 4th set. If I continue with more sets, sometimes I have trouble getting in or out of the tube even with plenty of lube.

It is somewhat costly (I can get two days worth out of each pair before they get too stretched to be of use), but these condoms are more snug than any other I’ve tried, and I think produce the best result.

I haven’t measured (I’m not much of a measurer at any rate) so I don’t know the length benefit. But it appears that there has been no shortening effect.