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PE4F High Pressure Pumping: thoughtfulgold

Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
I do not know where you are with it. But I know that where I am, I can feel it and understand it. Doesn’t require much thought, I simply am there.

Last night, I masturbated twice. Simply to do it. No porn, hard erections. Just a matter of understanding myself. I don’t recall any complex thought to do what I did.

I think you overthink it more than you ought, Buck.

One of the biggest advantages that I see in your postings is an insistence on staying open, to not be caught in a box. I think you’re right once you’re in the right place there ought not to be much to think about. I have a some work there, need to check my premises a little bit, get out of my own way.

Lost Round 17: The last session in this log

Housekeeping

No more session notes will be in this log. It concludes and I start a new project for 2019. Though I will be using this device again during the year, it will be in conjunction with the hanging project I’m starting with my LG Hangar

I bought the material to build my hanging while sitting apparatus today.

Additionally I haven’t masturbated in 4 days or so.

Routine Notes

Edging for around 15 minutes prior to the clamping (as it came to mind around then, as usual)

Before clamping MSEG was 6.25” MSEG

10 minutes cable cuff clamping at 6.5” clamped MSEG. IR lamp was NOT used

Post clamping MSEG was 6.3”

Other Notes

1. I did this session with *some* text stimulation. But not much.

2. Clamping is a great maintenance exercise and warm-up if you’re careful and experiences.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

PE4F Log Concluded 12/31/2018: Final Thoughts

I started this with ideas and biases. I changed them as I used this system. I’ll showcase some of those now.

New material is in italics to contrast prior thoughts.

Again, this log will receive no more updates. Only replies when needed. The first PE4F experiment is over.

Objective

My main goal with this high pressure pumping remains ultimately curve correction. Meaning my highest priority is aesthetic in value. This is fine. I am happy with this.

There is a very useful curve direction element at play with PE4F pumping. If it were not for my desire for more length i would simply do this for another year or two.

Hypothesis #1

My main theory is that negative pressure and a cylinder smaller than my base girth will cause a pressurized erection to straighten at higher pressures when the tube is packed.

The rate of correction I have seen leads me to believe 2 more years would yield a straight, longer and thicker cock if I were regular with my sessions.

Evidence:

* Several long-term pump users have totally mitigated sideways curves with long term use of the same tube for pleasure by packing the tube.

* Erections have been straighter still since the first campaign of 36 sessions and straighter still at session 46 of total.

At 58 sessions I regret not taking the project into the next year as a solo endeavor but this information indicates I have potential to combine this with something else to continue my curve correction and size quests.

Hypothesis #2

My secondary theory is that clamping will offer a more complete warm-up for my Corpus Cavernosums and Corpus Spongium in preparation for them to be targeted for expansion during high pressure pumping. Clamping with inner pressure is still a good precursor as negative pressure will be of greater total force than Clamping. This also is a more well rounded force pattern that will attack the inner layer of the tunica, then the outer layer, and inner layer again at the end. Then, because of the high stresses involved in clamping, I do not need to extend my pumping time as long as I did in my first campaign to see results.

My findings support this theory in my mind still.

Evidence:

* post-session expanded erection girths are comparable or greater than post-session expanded girth with pumping alone for my first campaign early on. General temp girth gains for first campaign early were 1/8” (.125) while here it is usually 1/4-3/8” (.25-.375) and this has been true since I started back. I compared Round 3-10 with round 39-46. Start at page 9 or 10 to compare findings.
* edema has typically been low, so expansion has been both real and controlled
* post-session expansion has lasted as long as pumping alone even though the pump times are greatly reduced
* all results or results that I feel are occurring are comparable to my first campaign in a more efficient time frame so far

Goals

* Straighten Erection- Progressing visibly

* Even girth throughout shaft to less conical- Progressing visibly and in a measured way. Circumcision scar is gaining faster than MSEG (mole area) and is likely to catch up.

*Gain length- Progressing slowly. Progress is hovering at a strong 9.25” with trending up on good days to close to 9.4” which is Progress from 9” trending to 9.25”

Length stalled as I stopped pumping. I mark it at 9.125” BPEL now, to be honest. Clamping for maintenance has cemented 6.25” MSEG strong and brought the circumcision scar to 6.1” over 5.8” which is a big gain. Additionally it needs to be said that i have never been solidly over 6” MSEG prior to this project and had been wrestling with gaining girth for 2 years before this experiment. This, puts my mild cemented girth gain in perspective I think.

My Path Forward

I foresee at least another 20 to 30 sessions using my current 2” diameter LeLuv tube. Maybe more depending on curvature progress and tube packing progress.

I made it to the 2.25” in 10 sessions.

After I reach full tube packing and pretty much fully straightened I will move to the 2.25” diameter cylinder and work towards packing it in the same way. This will take months. I will reassess goals when I’m done with the 2.25” tube….which is a long ways from now.

I project a 6-10 month ride in that cylinder before moving up again. Or a longer time if using PE4F in a secondary role.

Closing Notes

1. The experiment so far has been a success.
2. The concepts, once understood, can be used and manipulated.
3. Good numerical notation is key.
4. Patience and a willingness to experiment outside of the original boundaries of the guidelines you set is also key.
5. Safety is not hard to follow as long as you do not let eagerness to try something new guide your actions.

Conclusion

The PE4F system is complex in how it works. Simple in execution. Time under pressure yields tissue deformation in a pattern based on intensity and duration. The unique point of the system is sheer speed of cycling. You can run a hand pump to the top end of intensity but you can’t go from 0-26HG In two seconds.

Doing this causes tissue fatigue that nothing else I’ve experimented does. Or so I have noted in my own use of this system type. Accelerated fatigue, sustained and controlled, using the tube as a template for my penis, caused girth growth and some curve correction. Continuing this would continue to offer growth and correction.

But I want to do a new project.

As far as the discomfort it is notable and constant. Cylinder pushes to pubic bone with force. You can take it or modify your setup to disperse some force.

I think for safety it’s still too advanced for newbies but that if you’re good at reading your PIs and are past the eager to increase intensity and duration part of your PE career that some patience and high pressure can likely make you gain.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.


Last edited by thoughtfulgold : 01-02-2019 at . Reason: MSEG remarks.

Outstanding thread!


Start 6 1/2 L - 4 3/4 G

Now 7 15/16 L - 5 3/8G

Goal 8.0 L - 6.0 G

Amazing thread! Thank for all TFG!


30/08/24->19x14

30/08/26->20x15

30/08/28->21x16

Hi thoughtfulgold

Excuse me bro but i don’t understand your scheldua.

Do you rest ?

How many pumping days and how many rest days ?

I am trying to experiment high pressure pumping and don’t know if it is better to pump with minimum rest in-between sessions or alternate 1on 1off.


2018 16cm12cm11cm >> 2022 17.5cm13.5cm12.5cm >> 2024 17.5cm14cm12.5cm (BPEL/MSEG/BEG)

Mockery can gives you unfailing faith in yourself.

Has anyone else been trying this lately? Any new tips? Better machines? I’m thinking of giving it a go..

I went ahead and said screw it. Bought the pump and supplies to try this myself. I knew I’d have a constant nagging forever about this if I didn’t try it. May as well just do it.

Yep I do high pressure pumping.

I find it suits me very well.

I used an HVAC pump I bought from China on aliexpress.

Still going great about 2 years later.

I worked up to 10x1min sessions and can do this with no risk of blisters or pain.

I did get a couple of blisters early on.

Do NOT go hard too quickly!

Blisters are VERY painful and take weeks to heal.

When I am being consistent and life permits I can do this routine 5-7 days a week with no problems.

I always use an extender for 20 minutes or more straight after pumping.

I start with a 2” tube and pack lower half instantly. After first 2 mins I move to a 2.5” x 9” tube, which tapers to 2” at the top.

I pack it to right under glans by end of session.

If I am consistent I will gain incrementally in both length and girth but not a constant measurer.

I’m about 7.5 BPEL now, 6-6.5 base girth, maybe 5.75 below glans.

Don’t be afraid of high pressure pumping but do work up slowly. If you get too eager and push too hard you’ll get a painful blister and need at least 2 weeks total rest

I meant to say 10x1min sets per session. First 2 sets are to get warmed up. 10 secs on 10 secs off. Slowly building up time under max pressure. If you go too long in first couple of sets you get red dots and more discoloration.

By set 3 I am doing 1min full pressure, 1 min rest. Up to 10 sets.

I don’t need more than that.

Constant heat with a large rice sock tied tightly around cylinder. Reduces discoloration, always use heat.

Originally Posted by pinstripeee
Yep I do high pressure pumping.
I find it suits me very well.
I used an HVAC pump I bought from China on aliexpress.
Still going great about 2 years later.
I worked up to 10x1min sessions and can do this with no risk of blisters or pain.
I did get a couple of blisters early on.
Do NOT go hard too quickly!
Blisters are VERY painful and take weeks to heal.
When I am being consistent and life permits I can do this routine 5-7 days a week with no problems.
I always use an extender for 20 minutes or more straight after pumping.
I start with a 2” tube and pack lower half instantly. After first 2 mins I move to a 2.5” x 9” tube, which tapers to 2” at the top.
I pack it to right under glans by end of session.
If I am consistent I will gain incrementally in both length and girth but not a constant measurer.
I’m about 7.5 BPEL now, 6-6.5 base girth, maybe 5.75 below glans.
Don’t be afraid of high pressure pumping but do work up slowly. If you get too eager and push too hard you’ll get a painful blister and need at least 2 weeks total rest

Good to know!

I would imagine the blister is only an issue when packing the tube?

I don’t plan on using a cylinder that allows me to pack it

Got all my gear today! The pump is set up, everything is all ready for a session tomorrow morning. Only thing left to do later tonight is drill the safety hole in the cylinder. Excited!

You can still get a blister even if tube not packed. My only real blisters came the first time I used the 2.5 tube. It was packed halfway. Remember a cylinder with more volume adds more pulling force.

Don’t rush into it, go very slow and easy in the beginning with short bursts of pressure.

Over time you can build up to longer pressure time.

I never go more than 1min full pressure, ever.

If you push it, you will get a blister, and believe me, you will regret it.

It hurts like a MF.. Even showering with a blister is tears to your eyes painful.

But once you get through the learning stage it’s very effective, fast and safe I have found.

Originally Posted by pinstripeee
You can still get a blister even if tube not packed. My only real blisters came the first time I used the 2.5 tube. It was packed halfway. Remember a cylinder with more volume adds more pulling force.
Don’t rush into it, go very slow and easy in the beginning with short bursts of pressure.
Over time you can build up to longer pressure time.
I never go more than 1min full pressure, ever.
If you push it, you will get a blister, and believe me, you will regret it.
It hurts like a MF.. Even showering with a blister is tears to your eyes painful.
But once you get through the learning stage it’s very effective, fast and safe I have found.

Glad to have you here in this thread as I’m starting out.

Do you have a 1/8th hole drilled into your cylinder?

How does your set up/approach differ from thoughtfulgolds and PEforFuns?

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