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Vacuum Pumping 101

I think you should go for a 2.25" cylinder. Look for a LeLuv cylinder. They are professional cylinders at a great price. Here you go:

9 Inch or 12 Inch Replacement Cylinder with Fitting for Penis Pumps


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.

Thanks guys.


Mar21 - BPFSL: 6.5", BPEL: 6.5", NBPEL: 6", MEG: 5.5"

Jan22 - BPFSL: 8" (cold), BPEL: 7.5", NBPEL: 6.875", MEG: 5.5"

One Day - BPFSL: 9.5", BPEL: 9", NBPEL: 8.5", MEG: 6"

Originally Posted by gprent
I think you should go for a 2.25" cylinder. Look for a LeLuv cylinder. They are professional cylinders at a great price. Here you go:

9 Inch or 12 Inch Replacement Cylinder with Fitting for Penis Pumps

Just want to confirm that the LeLuv cylinder will work with my LA Pump setup?


Mar21 - BPFSL: 6.5", BPEL: 6.5", NBPEL: 6", MEG: 5.5"

Jan22 - BPFSL: 8" (cold), BPEL: 7.5", NBPEL: 6.875", MEG: 5.5"

One Day - BPFSL: 9.5", BPEL: 9", NBPEL: 8.5", MEG: 6"

Originally Posted by Willis99
Just want to confirm that the LeLuv cylinder will work with my LA Pump setup?

All the equipment we recommend come with the same quick disconnect fittings. Just take off your LA cylinder and plug in the LeLuv. Even the Thickwall pumps from the UK use the same quick disconnects.


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.

Originally Posted by gprent
All the equipment we recommend come with the same quick disconnect fittings. Just take off your LA cylinder and plug in the LeLuv. Even the Thickwall pumps from the UK use the same quick disconnects.

Awesome - thanks again.


Mar21 - BPFSL: 6.5", BPEL: 6.5", NBPEL: 6", MEG: 5.5"

Jan22 - BPFSL: 8" (cold), BPEL: 7.5", NBPEL: 6.875", MEG: 5.5"

One Day - BPFSL: 9.5", BPEL: 9", NBPEL: 8.5", MEG: 6"

Originally Posted by Willis99
Not sure this is the right place to post this question AND I did search already - my search skill might not be good enough..

Anyway - I’m using a 2” diameter LA Pump setup. My base girth is 6”, mid 5.5”, and right before glans 5” - my coronal ridge is 6”.

When I pump no matter how much lube I use my glans creates a seal that limits the pull and creates a bruisish looking ring on the coronal ridge that lasts for about 4-6 hours.

Any experienced pumpers that can tell me how to get past this issue?

Same issue, glans(5.3”)and base(5.5”) while mid shaft is 5.1 so I pack the bottom and top before the midshaft gets a chance to pack. Went to a bigger tube and the same happens but takes longer which I think will give the midshaft time to catch up hopefully.

Speaking of I was wondering if the glans grow with pumping as well or if maybe more slowly then the shaft etc? Most of the big growth PE pictures I’ve seen on here seem to be bigger shaft with smaller glans while I’m the opposite.

[QUOTE=Willis]
Not sure this is the right place to post this question AND I did search already - my search skill might not be good enough…

Anyway - I’m using a 2” diameter LA Pump setup. My base girth is 6”, mid 5.5”, and right before glans 5” - my coronal ridge is 6”.

When I pump no matter how much lube I use my glans creates a seal that limits the pull and creates a bruisish looking ring on the coronal ridge that lasts for about 4-6 hours.

Any experienced pumpers that can tell me how to get past this issue?
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[QUOTE=Hankreardon]
Same issue, glans(5.3”)and base(5.5”) while mid shaft is 5.1 so I pack the bottom and top before the midshaft gets a chance to pack. Went to a bigger tube and the same happens but takes longer which I think will give the midshaft time to catch up hopefully.

Speaking of I was wondering if the glans grow with pumping as well or if maybe more slowly then the shaft etc? Most of the big growth PE pictures I’ve seen on here seem to be bigger shaft with smaller glans while I’m the opposite.
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[QUOTE=BvckWood]
I read your forums post about pumping tubes and girth but I’m still stuck on the best tube to use. My midshaft is 5.6” and base is 6.1” but glans and base fill up the tube in the 2” first. Does that mean I should be using the 2.25” or should I start packing the 2”. I’m aware most of the vacuum will be focused on the glans when packed which is why I use a lower vacuum now. The 2.25 seems way to big as scrotum skin gets sucked in. What should I use?
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OK, this may be a first, putting 3 quotes in one reply, but here goes:

Here are a few things to try.

For guys who try switching to the 2.25” tube and have trouble with the scrotum skin being sucked in, getting some scrotum skin sucked in is not so bad. The problem is when your balls get sucked in.

2nd try more careful application of your lube. Also, bone press the tube into your crotch as you begin to pump up.

Third, start with your 2” tube and when your glans begins to pack, switch over to the 2.25” tube.

I am sure that one or a combo of these methods will help solve your problem. Once you get into that 2.25”, big things will happen! :)


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.


Last edited by gprent : 08-04-2021 at .

Here is one more option to my above post. Although it may be a good solution to prevent glans packing, it is pretty damn expensive:

Mushroom Head Maker Cylinder – L.A. Pump


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.


Last edited by gprent : 08-04-2021 at .

Originally Posted by gprent
Here is one more option to my above post. Although it may be a good solution to prevent glans packing, it is pretty damn expensive:

Mushroom Head Maker Cylinder – L.A. Pump

Interesting - although I’m not really focused on increasing glans size at this point, so hopefully the 2.25" tube will do the trick for me.

Thanks again for your continual answering of all our questions gprent.


Mar21 - BPFSL: 6.5", BPEL: 6.5", NBPEL: 6", MEG: 5.5"

Jan22 - BPFSL: 8" (cold), BPEL: 7.5", NBPEL: 6.875", MEG: 5.5"

One Day - BPFSL: 9.5", BPEL: 9", NBPEL: 8.5", MEG: 6"

Hi. Back for some more.

So I have had my pump for a while and have been playing around with it.
For starters it has shown me how thick my fat pad really is. The tube sinks about a half inch maybe a little more. Time to cut carbs…

So the basic is I can spare about 45 minutes of privacy maybe an hour, Most days to do this. I’m looking for most effective use of my time.

Current I can build up to 10 hg of pressure and hold that pretty much the whole time.
This pulls it out to 6.5 inches marked on the tube. So, longer than it gets otherwise.
The sensation is good. It goes from pleasurable at 7 to tolerable at 10. 5 and under don’t really feel like anything at all.
I build up some edema just behind the glans at the very end of the hour. That’s maybe how I know I’m done?
Rice sock before for sure and sometimes after.

So based off of that is there anything I could/should be doing better?

Of 5 hg only draws it out to about erect length is that still effective? Or is pulling it past that point the right thing to do?

If I can stand it should I build up to higher pressure?

Are the effects stackable? Like if I pumped it 5 hours on Saturday that equals the whole week?
Or just more hours of pump time?

Thank you.


02-27-21 STARTING: BPEL: 5.9in, EG: 5.5in

Goal: BPEL: 7.5, EG 5.5 uniform.

Would holding it out for longer afterwards like with a sleeve rather than it shriveling back up later help?


02-27-21 STARTING: BPEL: 5.9in, EG: 5.5in

Goal: BPEL: 7.5, EG 5.5 uniform.

Originally Posted by KrustyRusty

Would holding it out for longer afterwards like with a sleeve rather than it shriveling back up later help?

My low pressure combined with minimal lube in the tube (+ the swelling effect) creates enough friction so that it’s a bit like you describe w/ a sleeve.

Originally Posted by KrustyRusty
I build up some edema just behind the glans at the very end of the hour. That’s maybe how I know I’m done?

So based off of that is there anything I could/should be doing better?

I personally would say the routine your going for currently is on the right track. Its pretty hard to offer someone directly whether they SHOULD do more or less. Follow the PI’s and gauge to the best of your own ability how things are going. I also go for higher pressures than most recommend, about the same actually, typically at-least 10.

This is a personal view point. But yes, I would argue to limit edema, as its not really beneficial to growth per-say; at least their is no quantifiable proof that says otherwise. And from personal experience, the longer and better erections I have while pumping, will also result in less edema, and vice-versa.

For example:
1. I reach x size in the tube with great blood-flow and little to no edema afterwords.
2. I reach x size with little blood-flow and substantial edema afterwords.

Since blood-flow is a major determining factor of size and strength of regular erections, it suggest to me that blood-flow would be the key target during pumping as well, and as it sits for me personally. Edema is key indication that blood-flow has somewhat subsided even under pressure and its time to take a break.

Originally Posted by KrustyRusty
Of 5 hg only draws it out to about erect length is that still effective? Or is pulling it past that point the right thing to do?

If I can stand it should I build up to higher pressure?

Same concept as above. Id argue that as long as proper blood-flow is responsible for the majority of the growth under pressure than going higher is the main goal. Ive personally developed larger veins even in some spots from pumping, and I dont think pumping to regular erection would have that same effect.

Taking the above into account you should be able to determine effective pressures. You never want to feel to much pain, as too much pressure or blood-flow to fast can cause spotting/bruising/blisters. So there is a sweet spot, where blood-flow is greatly increased, causing noticeable expansion. But not so much that blood is being pulled into the sub-dermal layers potentially causing an injury.

Originally Posted by KrustyRusty
Are the effects stackable? Like if I pumped it 5 hours on Saturday that equals the whole week?
Or just more hours of pump time?

Again, focusing on the above as well as PI’s. I think you would be hard pressed to pump multiple hours in a single day without causing excessive fatigue, negative PI’s, and a great deal of edema in the process. Pumping is a pretty intense activity for our members.

Going off what I said in the above, if you cant even achieve a proper erection because of a previous workout. While you can still pump, there is zero to little chance you will have good enough blood-flow for it to be of any use. Spreading time out, and taking breaks when needed is absolutely necessary.

Its why I will never understand those who try and do excessively long pumping sessions. Its a futile workout, where realistically its an un-erect penis with little to no blood-flow trapped inside a low pressure tube for hours on end. Slowly pulling in fluids into the tissue over hours and hours. I personally think quicker sessions, that I can hold a strong erection throughout with much higher pressures is far more effective.


"Pain is temporary, pride is forever."


Last edited by oMooseknuckle : 09-22-2021 at .

Experiment, Error, and Success

Everyone is different. I have pumped off and on for many years. Early-on, without benefit of the wisdom of members on this site, I simply assumed more pressure must be best. Wrong, in retrospect. I used to pump up to 15 for about 12+ minutes, maybe stop, rest, repeat. High pressure at any significant time will result in the donut, but also possible capillary ruptures, darkened penis skin, and even blister formation. After starting to seriously read and take to heart guidance here, I have learned (for me at least) that the low and slow, 5 as the typical top end, with heat and good lube is the way to go. For me, I go about 20 minutes +/-, then remove the tube and place rings on to slow jelq the warmed, pumped unit, and then induce as good an erection as possible…then back into the tube for another 20. Sometimes that’s it, sometimes I graduate to a larger tube to continue again, but also post jelq (and I only do 20-30 slow strokes). For me, this reduces donut potential, and virtually eliminates capillary damages and discoloring. The bottom line is that slow and steady wins the race, don’t be impatient. This takes time, and rushing can cause problems. Sometimes I may pulse the pump up to a higher pressure (say 7-10) for short periods before dropping back. But for me, keeping it higher will at minimum result in the donut. Sure, it’s fun to see a 6-7 inch girth after high pressure and longer sessions, but if it’s just the squishy, fluid filled result, all you’ve done is draw mostly lymph into the spaces between the tunica and skin, doing little for the actual structure. Plus, the thing ends up looking like the Michelin Man for the rest of the day.

So, at least for me; low pressure (up to 5 at most for most part); heat, heat, heat (tube wrapped with portable rechargeable pad); go in as hard as possible; use good lube (I am now using Albolene as recommended by some of the “Masters” here); take a break after say 15-20 minutes to jelq with rings on; remove rings after getting full erection and; repeat. One finished I put rings on again to stroke it more to force blood into the unit. I had been (and may again) then been going into an ADS stretcher, but the head suction type has been causing some issues of late. It seems to make sense though that a stretcher application after a thoroughly warmed pump session can make sense.

Originally Posted by Don Logan
My low pressure combined with minimal lube in the tube (+ the swelling effect) creates enough friction so that it’s a bit like you describe w/ a sleeve.

Do you do more pressure at some point and go back to low pressure? Or low pressure only for extended periods?


02-27-21 STARTING: BPEL: 5.9in, EG: 5.5in

Goal: BPEL: 7.5, EG 5.5 uniform.

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