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Vacuum Pumping 101

Originally Posted by duud222
Hello! I’m new to the forums but have done on and off PE for the last 8 years. Pumping, stretching, jelqing and hanging.

I tried to search an answer to my next question but couldn’t find one. Hope some of you could help me out.

Is it better to pump and jelq tube so you are on the edge of cumming through the session but not going all the way, or is it enough just to get right pressures and let the vacuum do the job? I have noticed that when pumping with porn and jelqing my dick is rock hard after a session for a long time but when letting the pump do its job without porn and jelqing I often go flaccid fairly quickly after I stop pumping. In both cases I use 4-5inHg pressure.

However, using this jelqing and porn technique I have healthy and solid erections but do you get same results just by pumping with right pressure? Main focus is still going harder erections and bigger shaft.

Thank you for any helpful replies :)

I like you like to make sure I sustain an erection while in the tube, as I feel a much stronger internal stretch from the excess blood flow + the pressure. So, typically I don’t just go to pressure and sit as eventually my erection will subside although the pressure will force it to stay.

Try doing some dynamic pumping, getting an erection than holding a kegal as you go to your max pressure. Once there I do occasionally pump the tube to stimulate a bit, it will also create short burst of increased pressure. Then after a few minutes once you feel the internal stretch (erection) subside a bit I drop pressure back down. Pump tube again at a lower pressure to regain a strong erection, kegal, pump back up. Rinse and repeat.

I defiantly notice that this makes my erections feel much much stronger and larger immediately following a session without much edema. When I was doing longer sessions at a steady pressure with zero focus on erection in the tube I noticed not just more edema but softer and weaker erections. Always felt like right after when getting hard I would be at 80% full, granted larger, but just more deflated. Focusing on erections while pumping takes me from 80% to feeling like its maxed out at 110% a normal erection.

Sounds like you have tried both methods and can tell one feels better than the other for your body, so you already know the answer. Always listen to what feels the best for you!


"Pain is temporary, pride is forever."

Originally Posted by Bigby42
I’ve been using the vacurect as I was able to pick it up for a nice discount.. No gauge so I’ve been careful using it. The one problem I keep experiencing is that the pump keeps taking in a bit of my scrotal sack and it gets really uncomfortable after a while. I will move on to a pump with a gauge but for now any general tips on dealing with this? I’ve used less lube, held the constriction ring up a little, tried a smaller ring.. No difference. Not sure what I’m doing wrong to be honest. Thought I’d see if you guys had any tips, otherwise I’ll contact the distributor and look for alternatives

Ive mentioned this a few times around other threads. But IMHO, if you notice that your sack is being sucked into the tube the tube is to big. Tubes that require sleeves will almost always have this issue as well, as they are designed to be much wider and use the sleeve as a “one-size fits all” accessory. Unfortunately sleeves don’t exactly stop the constant battle of having skin sucked into the tube.

I would suggest another tube, fit for your size that can be used sin-sleeve/ring. But, maybe someone else can offer some advice that can work as a temporary fix to the issue unfortunately I was never able to find something that fixed the issue myself though.


"Pain is temporary, pride is forever."

Thanks, will give that a shot. It’s not too big of a problem but it causes discomfort after a while and anything to reduce the issue would be great

Really New Here

Hi all!

So after trolling the forums here for sometime I recently joined and just received my LeLuv pump. And would like to clarify something.

The general premise with the pump is that at the start when you pump your not going to be any bigger, not really anyways, but you with ‘pump’ to your current maximum. Then as you continue a routine over the following weeks and months (barring causing injury) that you will begin to notice gains to varying degrees of success correct?

Just trying to make sure I have understood what I have read.

The vaccum pump reduces the pressure inside the cylinder to the point that the pressure on the inside of your dick is greater than outside your dick. The fluids in your body then try to move from high pressure to low pressure. The cells and tissue of the dick try and constrain the fluids. As the fluid builds up, it expands the penis by either stretching out the cells (one view) or by causing slight damage leading to repair and replication and new cell growth (another view), both leading to a larger penis. Cells naturally gain size and reduce size depending on conditions. The pumping process seeks to push the cellular expansion process beyond the normal range so over time you will have gains.

The fluid buildup you want to see is blood moving into the cc, cs and glans. The fluid that you want to minimize is the interstitial cell fluid that shows up as edema, commonly seen as the doughnut under your glans.

Hope this simplistic explanation helps.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Hello guys! I have a question

I’m using a cylinder very large ( because my base girth is way thicker than the MEG).

My primary goal is girth, so it’s ok. But I was wondering… If I’m not going to pack the cylinder (something I see very unlikely to happen), It means I’m not going to target length? Or , still, I will see some little gains there too?

If I develop tiny red spots do I need to stop and wait for them to go away completely or am I safe to continue but maybe dial back the pressure?

I just got into a rhythm for my routine and would hate to loose it but I don’t want to damage my member either.

Originally Posted by ArTitan
If I develop tiny red spots do I need to stop and wait for them to go away completely or am I safe to continue but maybe dial back the pressure?
I just got into a rhythm for my routine and would hate to loose it but I don’t want to damage my member either.


The petechiae (red spots) are broken capillaries from too high vacuum. They should go away quickly. Take a day or two off and when you pump again, reduce the vac level and perhaps the time. Watch closely for new or existing petechiae to form. If so, take more rest days to allow them to heal.

Too high vacuum can be a relative thing and depends on how conditioned your penis is to pumping. We encourage pumpers to stay below -5inHg to avoid problems, but some guys find even -5 as too much, especially in the beginning of their pumping experience. If you are one of them, then target -3inHg and slowly adjust it over many days as your penis becomes more accustomed.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Okay.

I felt that 5 was a good place for me but maybe it was too soon to take that it too that point.
It just felt great at that pressure but maybe I want to go down to more like 3-4 for a week or two after my rest period.
I guess even though it felt good, it could still be too high right now.

Should I keep up with the heating pad and jelqing during the time I take to heal or cold turkey the whole routine?

My suggestion is total rest from PE. And as much sex as you can. Sex probably wont help heal the petechae, but you’ll be in a great mood so wont care.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Well my wife is loving what the PE is doing for my member, so it shouldn’t be a problem.

I really started PE because I was suffering from mild ED (Which it has worked wonders for).

Originally Posted by 32quarters
My suggestion is total rest from PE. And as much sex as you can. Sex probably wont help heal the petechae, but you’ll be in a great mood so wont care.

Yupp, most of PE but pumping especially is a game of numbers and time. No need to rush into anything, such as X number of sessions per week or X pressure levels right away. You will notice in the coming months and even years if you stick with it how much you will start to adapt to pumping over time. Taking a few days off when you need to is always a safe bet, and again over time youll notice less spoting/edema and can start doing it more often/longer. Best of luck


"Pain is temporary, pride is forever."

Guys, I’m new to jelq and penile pump, I’m planning to start, but I don’t know if I should do the penile pump before or after jelq and if I should do it every day or not. What time should I do in each of them?

I thank you for your help.

Originally Posted by ArTitan
Okay.

I felt that 5 was a good place for me but maybe it was too soon to take that it too that point.
It just felt great at that pressure but maybe I want to go down to more like 3-4 for a week or two after my rest period.
I guess even though it felt good, it could still be too high right now.

Should I keep up with the heating pad and jelqing during the time I take to heal or cold turkey the whole routine?

I took a long break after I posted my first post over the summer, and after a good start, had started to have these same problems again. It’s kinda reassuring to see someone having a similar experience. I thought -5 was a pretty safe number based on how it felt too, but it looks like it’s also a little too high for me. I was getting such good results with -3.5 to -4, I thought I could go a bit higher, but that’s when the dots started. I’d been doing every other day except when I took extra days off to let the dots heal. I think I’ll set a 4 day a week 15min at -3.5 to -4 and see if that’s the sweet spot. I just got like 3-5 of these on my shaft today after taking 2 days off to let a couple others heal, so I’m probably just going to take a whole week off and try the slightly more frequent, but less intense sessions.

Another question for the seasoned pumpers. Are you going in and then right up to whatever pressure you usually chill at, or is there some sort of build up for you. In my 15min sessions I usually chill at -2 for the first minute and then start easing it up like -0.5 every 30secs to a minute after I make sure I’m comfortable where I’m at.

Big thanks to everyone who has given advice on this recently. I enjoy this process. I would just love to dial it in for me so I don’t have all this start/ stop nonsense which means I’m going nowhere in terms of goals other than the already increased erection quality.

I have been pumping a long time. I go straight up to my chill number, but as my dick starts to expand, the vacuum level starts to decline so I need to pump it back up to my chill number. I need to do this four or five times during the first two or three minutes before the vacuum level settles in. Even then, I need to pump back up to the chill level every five minutes or so to maintain the level.


Start 11/09 BPEL: 5.5", EG: 4.4"

Current. BPEL: 6:4", EG: 5.5"

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