Buckfever's progress report/bananaman story.

Data analysis.

I should have kept better records, but this is what I do have. From 3/7/2017-7/21/2017 the measure of Max stretched length in the extender went from ~17.25CM to 21CM.

At that point based on readings here I stopped measuring and only recorded additions to the extender length.

From 7/21/2017 to 12/13/2017 we added 1/2” to the extender length or a rate of ~ 1/4” per 3 months and this pretty clearly marked the end of the newbie gains. These newbie gains IMO were out sized because I was regaining age related loss of length.

I don’t know if the graph above is showing up but from 12/13/2017 to present I have added length to the extender at a rate of 1/8” per 3 months with a slight acceleration the last 6 months, but certainly the graph shows no diminishing returns to this point. I really figured that the rate of gains would decelerate by now.

It could be that it is happening and that the rate of gain is actually greater than 1/8” / 3 months and so the smaller additions are hiding the deceleration but even if that where the case at 18 months the deceleration has to be very, very slow to not show up in the data to this point.

A couple things that I have observed that are out there is the 2000 hour mark and the 2” addition mark.

I’m at 820 hours to this point so I’m not even close to the 2000 hour point where there is some anecdotal evidence of diminishing returns. But this is very hard to validate, because at that point many are adding girth work and if they have been successful which almost certainly they are to have persisted that far, might be satisfied and lose enthusiasm.

I’m at 1-3/8” of extender additions post newbie gains. Statistically there seems to be a fall of gains at the nominal point of ~ 2”. But causality is uncertain. Is there a fall off because of diminishing returns and so the juice isn’t worth the squeeze? Or is it that the gains are sufficient or problematic even and so that explains the fall off?

Admittedly I may not stay in it long enough to be able to answer these questions fully for myself. But this is definitely an interesting part of the journey.

Great job on tracking Buck! It is helpful to be able to look back and have information that allows for us to begin to connect some dots.

Well done.

Well I’m anticipating 18 more months which would give us 3 years of post newbie data and then a consolidation period past that. That should be some robust data. The idea of adding 2+ full inches to the extender length post newbie gains while maintaining position in the cradle over 3 years has to give us some insight into diminishing returns and the rate of gains. Particularly, when it was the only method used.

6/9/2019

83% @ 47.5 minutes

Okay so we lost a little ground here, which is not surprising to me as 2 of the previous 3 days saw only 17.5 minutes and 26 minutes of effort, which is woefully inadequate to sustain progress. This was deliberate as I was allowing for intimacy on those 2 days. I do not think you can have it all. You have to chose your priorities. This is an especially unique situation in that this effort can affect EQ.

I am where I am at, but I guess that I am not fully along with the consensus of not forgoing intimacy for PE. I think if it is that important to you to make the effort for a time to ensure progress to achieve certainty of method validation, then I don’t really have a judgement against that.

I think as much as anything where we see lack of progress, it is because progress requires what it requires and it is not so easy to thread the needle.

Furthermore when you actualize something of magnitude, it changes you. This recent diminishing return examination, is certainly a reframing inflection point for me.

6/9/2019

Second session

34% @ 25 minutes

Further confirmation of a loss of momentum, leaving it at that for now as I’m thinking to have some fun this afternoon, but I should have the evening free and then we’ll go for duration. Viewing this day as one where we regain momentum.

6/9/2019

Low tension @ 60 minutes

So this should get us back on track.

https://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(19)30181-X/fulltext

So I wanted to bring this 6 month Restorex results back up. The first cohort showed 1.5 cm gain @ 3 months. Then after the 3 months the control group was allowed to enter the trial and that cohort showed a 1.95cm gain in 3 months. The first group from 3-6 months showed a gain of only .5cm.

At first blush this looks like diminishing returns, but really as we have established here, the newbie period tends towards outsized gains and the issue of diminishing returns really has to be examined post newbie gains. Also it needs to be considered that there will be selection bias in the sampling for the Restorex clinical trial as the demographic will have both age related loss of length and Peyronies related loss of length. While anecdotal there seems to be ample evidence that regaining lost length is a different animal than gains beyond that point.

Given that reality I’m no longer convinced that the duration of the study will be long enough to give us much regarding diminishing returns. Hopefully though they will give us the long run data on the 30, 60 and 90 minute groups and maybe we can see what effect the total time under tension tells us post newbie gains.

6/10/2019

68% @ 49 minutes

The glans was not recovered from the late long duration session yesterday. That’s all I’m going to do today to let the tissues heal up and then tomorrow I’m anticipating getting back to the double sessions earlier in the day with single session days interspersed for recovery. While there have been times where 3 hour long session in a day seemed to be of benefit, it is simply too hard for me to navigate the glans tissue condition on such a schedule.

6/11/2019

100% max tension @ 22.5 minutes

Max tension at 7.5 minutes in.

Overslept, was pressed for time so decided to push it a little, on the tension ramp up and the max tension. Went well.

Maybe things have gone a little too well lately. Maybe success leads to greater aspirations? Thinking about what thoughtfulgold has said. Those that gain don’t quit.

I don’t think that will be the case for me because lingering is this desire to shift towards allowing for the greater EQ that comes from backing off. I have been analyzing the data on this and hour long daily sessions and then taking the day of on a day of planned intimacy leads to throbbing EQ - a very desirable state.

But maybe slight upward goal revisions? I think it’s dangerous. But the thing is that you get used to seeing it and the results become not as impactful visually and the additional incremental gains come so slow that they are imperceptible. But dangerous still because despite the normalization visually, it sure doesn’t go in so easy anymore.

And then there is the positive feedback loop and the lifestyle aspect of it that both combine to encourage carrying on.

6/11/2019

34% @ 12 minutes interrupted

34% @ 25 minutes

Low tension @ 31 minutes

Came back to it this afternoon, thought to have a clear schedule but due to a scheduling error I was called away and that was interrupted. I tried to remedy the effort and I’m not sure about how things went. I prefer fewer longer sessions and in the long run that has proven to be the most efficient. I will have a better idea tomorrow if these shorter multiple sessions were counter productive.

6/12/2019

83% @ 23.5 minutes
followed by
34%@ 25.5 minutes

NOPE!!! Yesterdays strategy did not work. I’m going to have to backtrack a little and get the session duration back up.

6/12/2019

Second session

Low tension @ 60 minutes

Kept the tension low and got the duration to get back on track. I need to follow through with this approach the next few days to reestablish the momentum.

6/13/2019

100% @ 12 minutes
34% @ 6 minutes
Changed out to stiffer noose
Low tension @ 60 minutes

Well I almost blew the morning, by being overzealous. Recently I’ve been using a softer noose and with that it is very unforgiving of going over on tension. At 68% everything looked great so my overzealous tendency took over and that didn’t work, then I reloaded at 34% but by that time the glans was no longer robust enough to sustain duration. Experience has taught me that shifting to a stiffer noose can compensate and fortunately I as able to savage the session.

So basically what I have to do is keep it at the low end of the 68-100% tension range and creep it up. July will be a great circumstance for progress, I just need to set the table the next 2 weeks with long duration sessions.

6/14/2019

68% @ 20 minutes
24% @ 9 minutes
Low tension @ 15 minutes

Second session:

Low tension @ 48 minutes

Not sure what happened today, sleep deprived so maybe that but, changed out the noose for the last session so maybe that was the deal. I think I’ll call it till Sunday and let the tissues at the point of attachment recover, plus who knows maybe I’ll continue my EQ research on a day off.

Something I’ve be wondering is how you come up with the percentages? I’ve been using my extender for sometime. Strated with short times and worked up to 2-4 a set for total 8-12 hours per day. I’m thinking about changing to regain some of my time back.