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7/1/2019

I experimented with edging twice in the past week, just to get to full engorgement and keeping it there for a short while. My theory is that post traction this might facilitate recovery. My experience so far is positive but I need more data points. I suspect that on days where there are multiple sessions it would be particularly useful.


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7/1/2019

68% @ 60 minutes


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7/1/2019

Second session:

17% @ 32.5 minutes


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7/2/2019

31 minutes various tensions, noose issue. Will change out later and go again.

As of this afternoon the next 10 days are my own, full throttle focus, in all respects.


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7/2/2019

Second session

Low tension @ 60 minutes

Bad attachment noose issues, still got the hour, off to change out to a new noose. Good start to the assault, gonna be driven by session duration.


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Originally Posted by Buckfever
6/27/2019

92% @ 60 minutes

So yesterday we got to full tension, so today I pulled it back just a little to make sure that if there was any tugback I still got the duration. And honestly I just barely got the 65 minutes same as yesterday so I do thing there was a small amount of tugback.

There are some things that kyrpa is doing which I suspect is modulating the tugback response but it’s just a theory. Yesterday for the second session I upped the tension because based on the morning session I knew that I had gained ground, but then the session duration fell off. It might be that when we gain ground it would be better to back off the tension to keep the duration up and consolidate the progress without triggering the tugback. I think I may have noticed it anecdotally when I wound up doing something like that randomly in the past, but I haven’t tested it deliberately.

Anyway this worked out, a little lower tension and the duration was good. We’re closing in on full tension and duration going into July.

Please elaborate. I would like to hear your take on what ever you are referring to.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Please elaborate. I would like to hear your take on what ever you are referring to.

“For stress relaxation the standard Penimaster springload is enough to lengthen the penis to its elastic limit within 45-60 minutes time.

After that I used to bring it beyond the elastic limit to a plastic zone heated and loading it in stretching sets with a elastic band. It involves lot of work to produce a workout precisely enough this way.

Remodeling or cool down was done in original Penimaster setup with rods adjusted to their maximum length and keeping penis cooling at its stretched length while cooling down.”

” Tissues have to be gradually relaxed to their elastic limits with low loads before introducing moderate loads to stretch just beyond viscoelastic region to reach plastic region of the collagen based tissues.”

“This was followed by ~100 minutes long vac stretching with a elastic band loaded for 1kg. Stretching in ordinal compass points 25 mins each.”

“For now on using Penimaster rod system as a stress relaxation only setup. No stronger phase two springs no original base springs.”

“According to one study linked here in some thread I cant recall at the moment there were speculated that getting 0,5% of plastic strain stretching tendon or ligament it would have permanent outcomes repeated in ten consecutive workouts. So if this is to be case I should nail that 23.2cm post BPFSL length another couple of times and leave it there.”

“Both of us do not need any acceleration in gain rates. I am afraid rushing things from here would be easily counterproductive.”

“I don´t use ADS for the known “healing in the lengthened state” purposes. ADS setup which I am referring in my log is more an active stretching tool with much more efficient loads.”

There’s other stuff too early on where you noted that there was a lower limit and upper limit to the volume of work, which touches on the micro versus macro, but what I took from it specifically is that the stress relaxation is to get to the elastic limit in preparation to then get into the plastic region, AND leave it at that.

So I would view that when my robust effort in the AM gets me into the plastic region toward the end of the session when “we ride the fatigue”, then the afternoon or evening session, should be viewed as part of the effort of work within the elastic range in preparation for the next morning when the glans is robust enough to handle loads after further stress relaxation to the elastic limit so that it can then be taken into the plastic range.

I can dive deeper if you want.

But there are some things that I wonder about and that’s if there is some merit to how the observed flaccid hang might give some indication of the preparation for the work in the plastic state. So when thoughtfulgold says try to avoid the tugback maybe it’s just that, that when we induce the protective response we’re not able to get into that plastic region as well. You eluded to that, in your writings.

Because I’ve noticed that when that gets triggered I need to come back off the tension and sneak back up there, well what is that except that I’m triggered a protective response that keeps me from getting into the plastic range? Or does not allow me to get back in there as efficiently.

Anecdotally we know there’s a sweet spot, but what the hell is that exactly? So when I read your stuff, it feels like that’s what it is, or at least without knowing the actual mechanisms of action, we’re giving a useful description to what might be going on, or a workable explanation at the very least.


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7/3/2109

68% @ 65 minutes

I just got to hold myself back and get the duration. LOL


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Originally Posted by Buckfever

There’s other stuff too early on where you noted that there was a lower limit and upper limit to the volume of work, which touches on the micro versus macro, but what I took from it specifically is that the stress relaxation is to get to the elastic limit in preparation to then get into the plastic region, AND leave it at that.

So I would view that when my robust effort in the AM gets me into the plastic region toward the end of the session when “we ride the fatigue”, then the afternoon or evening session, should be viewed as part of the effort of work within the elastic range in preparation for the next morning when the glans is robust enough to handle loads after further stress relaxation to the elastic limit so that it can then be taken into the plastic range.


I´m pleased that you picked out ditching “the Healing at the lengthened state” altogether. If we have reached the elastic region then all we need is rest. And repetition.
I think your approach with two session a day is enough with the continuous relative low loads with extender.
This is I believe how extenders should be used. It gets there only slightly but doing it day by day then permanent gains are achieved with these extenders.
In my approach with manual stretches well over the elastic limit with relative high forces, there is no way of doing it daily for a long time. And the whole concept of taking everything out of two months and then rest, is quite different scenario anyway. There is continuation as well but the gains comes in bursts and diminish.

Originally Posted by Buckfever

I can dive deeper if you want.


You know what? I really didn´t know anyone going this deep on my observations. Feel little bit surprised and even humbled. Given the non-responsive nature of these logs this is already a lot.

Originally Posted by Buckfever

But there are some things that I wonder about and that’s if there is some merit to how the observed flaccid hang might give some indication of the preparation for the work in the plastic state. So when thoughtfulgold says try to avoid the tugback maybe it’s just that, that when we induce the protective response we’re not able to get into that plastic region as well. You eluded to that, in your writings.

Because I’ve noticed that when that gets triggered I need to come back off the tension and sneak back up there, well what is that except that I’m triggered a protective response that keeps me from getting into the plastic range? Or does not allow me to get back in there as efficiently.

Anecdotally we know there’s a sweet spot, but what the hell is that exactly? So when I read your stuff, it feels like that’s what it is, or at least without knowing the actual mechanisms of action, we’re giving a useful description to what might be going on, or a workable explanation at the very least.


Yes you are right about not given a thought on that kind of phenomenon. It is simply because I haven´t observed any. Maybe it is from never going too far ?
Overtraining in my opinion causes cavernous smooth-musclemass to contract and so on leads in tugbacking.
Tugback reaction I know of comes from my pumping and clamping experiments, where I should point out not finding the sweet spot yet. If going in too high vacuums or having too much of clamping, there is this shrinking reaction observed very clearly. Observing and learning.

Sweet spot. Everyone has it and is up to individual to determine his. It is located somewhere between the top of the workout intensity and volume and total rest.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

7/3/2019

Low tension @ 60+ minutes

And that’s it for the day. Back on track!!!


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7/4/2019

100% max tension @ 60 minutes

The attachment looked real good to start with so I thought I might try max tension. So I deliberately took longer to get there, 17.5 minutes to take full advantage of the stress relaxation. Still need to gain forward position in the cradle

All aspects of progress in the various dimensions that I’m working on are going well. Nothing big but just a little bit everyday. Embrace everyday as an opportunity to do a little more.

Fat pad reduction is going real well, as I’m stripping away the fat off my body, it just seems like an obvious thing to do. Tight abs are an attractive feature on a man and the reduction of the fat pad gloriously enhances the display of our manhood.

Get it!


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Originally Posted by Buckfever
Get it!

Yes sir!


Once upon a time (2015): 6.40” x 4.50”

Today: 7.25” x 5.00”, Thunder Cocks Unite!

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7/4/2019

Second session:

Low tension @ 60 minutes

And that’ll do for the day.


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7/5/2019

100% @ 60 minutes

got to max tension @ 11 minutes

gained forward position in cradle.

Right now this is working and I don’t want to change a damned thing.


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