Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Please elaborate. I would like to hear your take on what ever you are referring to.
“For stress relaxation the standard Penimaster springload is enough to lengthen the penis to its elastic limit within 45-60 minutes time.
After that I used to bring it beyond the elastic limit to a plastic zone heated and loading it in stretching sets with a elastic band. It involves lot of work to produce a workout precisely enough this way.
Remodeling or cool down was done in original Penimaster setup with rods adjusted to their maximum length and keeping penis cooling at its stretched length while cooling down.”
” Tissues have to be gradually relaxed to their elastic limits with low loads before introducing moderate loads to stretch just beyond viscoelastic region to reach plastic region of the collagen based tissues.”
“This was followed by ~100 minutes long vac stretching with a elastic band loaded for 1kg. Stretching in ordinal compass points 25 mins each.”
“For now on using Penimaster rod system as a stress relaxation only setup. No stronger phase two springs no original base springs.”
“According to one study linked here in some thread I cant recall at the moment there were speculated that getting 0,5% of plastic strain stretching tendon or ligament it would have permanent outcomes repeated in ten consecutive workouts. So if this is to be case I should nail that 23.2cm post BPFSL length another couple of times and leave it there.”
“Both of us do not need any acceleration in gain rates. I am afraid rushing things from here would be easily counterproductive.”
“I don´t use ADS for the known “healing in the lengthened state” purposes. ADS setup which I am referring in my log is more an active stretching tool with much more efficient loads.”
There’s other stuff too early on where you noted that there was a lower limit and upper limit to the volume of work, which touches on the micro versus macro, but what I took from it specifically is that the stress relaxation is to get to the elastic limit in preparation to then get into the plastic region, AND leave it at that.
So I would view that when my robust effort in the AM gets me into the plastic region toward the end of the session when “we ride the fatigue”, then the afternoon or evening session, should be viewed as part of the effort of work within the elastic range in preparation for the next morning when the glans is robust enough to handle loads after further stress relaxation to the elastic limit so that it can then be taken into the plastic range.
I can dive deeper if you want.
But there are some things that I wonder about and that’s if there is some merit to how the observed flaccid hang might give some indication of the preparation for the work in the plastic state. So when thoughtfulgold says try to avoid the tugback maybe it’s just that, that when we induce the protective response we’re not able to get into that plastic region as well. You eluded to that, in your writings.
Because I’ve noticed that when that gets triggered I need to come back off the tension and sneak back up there, well what is that except that I’m triggered a protective response that keeps me from getting into the plastic range? Or does not allow me to get back in there as efficiently.
Anecdotally we know there’s a sweet spot, but what the hell is that exactly? So when I read your stuff, it feels like that’s what it is, or at least without knowing the actual mechanisms of action, we’re giving a useful description to what might be going on, or a workable explanation at the very least.