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Originally Posted by Tutt
What I’m trying to do, Kyrpa, is reconcile your empirical data with everything that I’ve known about structural tissues exhibiting viscoelastic behavior. The standard load-strain curve excludes viscoelasticity, because it cannot be modeled with a single function. But my contension here is that your emperical results are made possible by viscoelasticity, which cannot be adequately represented on a 2D chart. That’s why I keep bringing in the proportionality limit, because it allows your emperical data to align with generally accepted theory.

I’m gonna give it additional thought because there is another possibility as well.

I understand your view. What I am seeing here is that complexity of the behavior of the stretched penis is not a simple task.
Fitting these biological tissues on standard stress strain curve is the only problem for me. As you know they are not be simply fitted in standard model.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Tutt
The most valuable thing in this thread is Kyrpa’s willingness and desire to produce practical data points. That will be key in building out a layman’s protocol. Unfortunately, because of the effectiveness of the methods discussed here, I don’t think he has enough runway left to continue the search for optimal protocol indefinitely.

Thanks for the compliments. See, I need to understand, otherwise I would feel too stupid to jerk my dick for years in a hope it will grow.
I have seen that enough in gyms for decades. There are still some original guys lifting weights in the same gyms , that some of us have left achieved the task what we were after, and after all these years they haven´t gained.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 07-12-2019 at .

Kyrpa what would you change exactly? Forgetting where this occurs on the curve or which curve, you’re going to get things stretched out, with the assistance of heat to get things stretched out a bit more and then you use a manual stretching protocol to push past that.

Exactly what would you change to the protocol? And why?


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Originally Posted by Buckfever
Kyrpa what would you change exactly? Forgetting where this occurs on the curve or which curve, you’re going to get things stretched out, with the assistance of heat to get things stretched out a bit more and then you use a manual stretching protocol to push past that.

Exactly what would you change to the protocol? And why?

Concept is fine. And I am not looking for greater strains per exercise either. The gain rate certainly needs no acceleration.

What I would like to do with exercises is to minimize time investments and loads used on the last part of the protocol, now performed with manual stretching.

I already know that the conditioning stretch could be as short as 30min at minimum instead of the 50min I did now in the cycle 1.
Next to look is to find the threshold level with the load to achieve the targeted area on the slope.
I have a sophisticated guess that the last 1 mm is achieved without robust pulling of the unit.

I m not eager to lengthen the heat cycle because of the unknowns around staying prolonged times on the unnatural temperatures.

I will run this Period by 3+2 protocol , but the next one would be ran testing with 2+2 days system. Two days rest between seems to be enough at this point.

This of course concerns only the first part of the Period and it would be scrutinized later.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

What would be scrutinized would be the second part where I will do changes with the exercises to be more effective.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

That’s useful. It’s given me some ideas too, to test the ramp up of tension as to how it impacts the stress relaxation.

It’s also made me ponder how a combination protocol might work more effectively. For instance applying a stress relaxation protocol first before clamping or high pressure pumping. Not that I’m going there as those methods are too risky for me, but it seems to me that those those methods might be greatly enhanced by setting the table with the heat stress relaxation protocol applied first.

I’m not aware of anyone having run that.


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Originally Posted by Buckfever
That’s useful. It’s given me some ideas too, to test the ramp up of tension as to how it impacts the stress relaxation.

It’s also made me ponder how a combination protocol might work more effectively. For instance applying a stress relaxation protocol first before clamping or high pressure pumping. Not that I’m going there as those methods are too risky for me, but it seems to me that those those methods might be greatly enhanced by setting the table with the heat stress relaxation protocol applied first.

I’m not aware of anyone having run that.

I will go for utilizing Poisson effect with mild to moderate pressure pumping and clamping, both with restricted lenght and effectively heat treated with ultrasound and external heat source .


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
I will go for utilizing Poisson effect with mild to moderate pressure pumping and clamping, both with restricted lenght and effectively heat treated with ultrasound and external heat source .

Wow awesome!!!


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Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Thanks for the compliments. See, I need to understand, otherwise I would feel too stupid to jerk my dick for years in a hope it will grow.
I have seen that enough in gyms for decades. There are still some original guys lifting weights in the same gyms , that some of us have left achieved the task what we were after, and after all these years they haven´t gained.

I took 3 years off from my gym and when I came back, 80% of the familiar faces hadn’t made noticeable gains at all despite spending 2hrs per day in the gym. I see the same thing happening here, despite sometimes as much as 2,000 hrs spent doing PE. Can you imagine puting in 2,000 hours at the gym and gaining the equivalent of 5-10lbs of muscle? Frustrating.

I think I’ve gotten to where I’ve reconciled the practical data with the theory. I typed a descriptive response that details the mechanisms involved and proposes the effects of viscosity on reshaping the biological tissue load-strain curve, but then realized that it was REALLY long. I also realized that to identify critical points there will need to be some additional experimentation. Rather than throw it out on your progress log, maybe it would be better if I just sent it to you via PM. ???

Originally Posted by Tutt

I think I’ve gotten to where I’ve reconciled the practical data with the theory. I typed a descriptive response that details the mechanisms involved and proposes the effects of viscosity on reshaping the biological tissue load-strain curve, but then realized that it was REALLY long. I also realized that to identify critical points there will need to be some additional experimentation. Rather than throw it out on your progress log, maybe it would be better if I just sent it to you via PM. ???

Please do so. I have also given a some time to think it over, so lets chew it a bit. There are some aspects I like to test so it would best if they are combined somehow.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 07-13-2019 at .

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Concept is fine. And I am not looking for greater strains per exercise either. The gain rate certainly needs no acceleration.

What I would like to do with exercises is to minimize time investments and loads used on the last part of the protocol, now performed with manual stretching.

I already know that the conditioning stretch could be as short as 30min at minimum instead of the 50min I did now in the cycle 1.
Next to look is to find the threshold level with the load to achieve the targeted area on the slope.
I have a sophisticated guess that the last 1 mm is achieved without robust pulling of the unit.

I m not eager to lengthen the heat cycle because of the unknowns around staying prolonged times on the unnatural temperatures.

I will run this Period by 3+2 protocol , but the next one would be ran testing with 2+2 days system. Two days rest between seems to be enough at this point.

This of course concerns only the first part of the Period and it would be scrutinized later.

I really think you should be able to do a 2+2 and I’m interested in the results.

Soon I’ll be gathering data around the concept of 1+2 with the workout day having 3-4 sets.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
I will go for utilizing Poisson effect with mild to moderate pressure pumping and clamping, both with restricted lenght and effectively heat treated with ultrasound and external heat source .

I highly support the idea of Poisson-style clamping and pumping. Personally clamping has always made more sense to me.

Kyrpa, can you clarify one thing for me? When you use the PMpro do you increase to 9kg and leave the 9kg engaged through the entire rep? Or do you increase to 9kg and then lock the strain on the PMpro and allow it to stress relax to a lower load into the end of the rep?

Originally Posted by Tutt
Kyrpa, can you clarify one thing for me? When you use the PMpro do you increase to 9kg and leave the 9kg engaged through the entire rep? Or do you increase to 9kg and then lock the strain on the PMpro and allow it to stress relax to a lower load into the end of the rep?


9kg is pretty much undoable with pm. These are manual stretches with average of 9kg. Constant strethc for 30sec each for 10 minutes. Pauses no longer than 15seconds.

All other stretches other than baseline bpfsl measurement are done without PM. With elastic band , locked to utilize stress relaxation.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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