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“and also for the fact that penile tissues cool down real quickly.”

Hmmm the additional stretch that occurs via heat, reverses upon cooling?


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Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Glad that you asked as I have suspicions already why you asked. The picture attached tells another reason choosing the manual cyclic stretching as the final practice of the workout.

That’s exactly what I was getting at. You are very perceptive sir.

Originally Posted by Buckfever
“and also for the fact that penile tissues cool down real quickly.”

Hmmm the additional stretch that occurs via heat, reverses upon cooling?

Definitely! The strain must be maintained during cooling. This is absolutely critical.

In fact, if your stretcher is rigged with a load sensor and you were to lock the strain at the greatest point of elongation during the heat phase and then remove the heat, you would watch the measured load increase until stress relaxation was able to compensate over the course of 30-60 minutes.

Originally Posted by Tutt
Definitely! The strain must be maintained during cooling. This is absolutely critical.

In fact, if your stretcher is rigged with a load sensor and you were to lock the strain at the greatest point of elongation during the heat phase and then remove the heat, you would watch the measured load increase until stress relaxation was able to compensate over the course of 30-60 minutes.

When I run the protocol at some point with extender only , I used to keep the unit at maximum length for the final. Unit got really tense real quickly, until at some point relaxes.

After concentrating on cyclic manual stretching as a final, I have given up the procedure. As the results show it is not that crucial with these tactics anymore.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
When I run the protocol at some point with extender only , I used to keep the unit at maximum length for the final. Unit got really tense real quickly, until at some point relaxes.

After concentrating on cyclic manual stretching as a final, I have given up the procedure. As the results show it is not that crucial with these tactics anymore.

My point was that the penis must stay under load while cooling. You are using manual stretches to do that.

If someone were to attempt to lock in the strain without a load sensor, they would notice the load increasing because of the tense response that you noted. They would also need to use caution because the passive load increase could be quite large and uncomfotable as the tissue cools. Your manual stretches allow you to avoid going beyond that 6-9kg limit as the tissue cools.

Originally Posted by Tutt
My point was that the penis must stay under load while cooling. You are using manual stretches to do that.

If someone were to attempt to lock in the strain without a load sensor, they would notice the load increasing because of the tense response that you noted. They would also need to use caution because the passive load increase could be quite large and uncomfotable as the tissue cools. Your manual stretches allow you to avoid going beyond that 6-9kg limit as the tissue cools.

Precisely as I see this. Both theoretical and practical agreement.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Day 1 Cycle3

I decided for various reasons to do it without heat this time. Results were poor as the increased conditioning stretch time didn´t bring anything extra and was forced to abort the stretch soon after reaching the transitional region.
Not having anything great as outcome, still getting more confirmation on the efficiency of the heat cycle and the protocol.

40 minutes in conditioning vac stretch with 2kg.

Followed with 2,6 kg load aiming for 10 minutes continuous stretch.
But I was forced to abort just before the bell rung as the intensity of the stretch made it unbearable to continue.

This for me is the exhaustion point with these loads without heat cycle.
With longer conditioning stretch and lower loads I have managed to run it with better results.

Measured pre BPFSL 23.1 cm and post BPFSL 23.4 cm. Strain of 1.5%. (avg)

Day 2 Cycle 3

After day one struggles without heat I went to produce normal workout. Now we have comparable data for heated and non-heated workouts. Take a look at 50 minutes markings to see the difference.

30 minutes in conditioning vac stretch with stress relaxation for 30 minutes and 2kg.
Followed with a US heated 20 min stretches left and right with a workload of 3,0 kg for ten minutes each direction.

Followed with usual manual stretching for 10 minutes . Produced in intervals of 30 second stretches and 15 sec rest. Vacuum attachment and 6 kg load.

Measured pre BPFSL 23.1cm and post BPFSL 23.7cm. Strain of 2.9%. (avg)

Day 3 Cycle 3 Extra rest

Day 4 Cycle 3

Like day 2 but manuals with hand grip, pulling approximately at the range of 8-11 kg.
Measured pre BPFSL 23.1cm and post BPFSL 23.7cm. Strain of 2.9%. (avg)

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START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

One year gone and the length goal reached with 21.7cm BPEL. (8,54 Inches)

It took ~one year to get from 7.1 to 8.5 inches. From this point onward I will be pleased to get some more with the established protocol, to the point I don’t find it productive enough anymore, or my time in PE comes to a closure otherwise. This achievement won´t affect the Period 3 program in any measure.
I wasn’t supposed to achieve my girth goal in same time-frame, as the development has stalled
significantly.
I will dedicate the last part of the period focusing on girth more than previously. This only of course after
BPFSL gains start to diminish supposedly in next 20 days.
Saying that I apologize for mistakenly stating few posts ago that the BPFSL gains start to diminish at 33
days, actually it has previously started to do so at ~40- 45 days point of course. This is easy to read from post exercise BPFSL measurements, although actual BPFSL at rest keeps still gaining at slower rate. (posted attachment )
I will post one year report some time soon, even Period 3 still being at its early process.
Wanted to adjust timing to get it done in one year frame, but this is the reality and work continues
anyways.

During Period 3, (20 days so far):

BPEL 21.4cm -> 21,7 cm +0.3 cm
BPFSL 22.7cm -> 23.2 cm +0.5 cm

Length gains for Period 3 are coming similarly to previous rounds, within the tolerable margins of (±)1mm.

Days 1 and 2 Cycle4
Keeping my head down and just working out.
Taking just pre and post measurements as there is no practical reason to take anything else.
30 minutes in conditioning vac stretch for stress relaxation with 2kg.

Followed with a US heated 15 min stretches left and right with a workload of 3,0 kg for ten minutes each direction. Both days PM vac cup started to slip of due leak when heating.

Followed with usual manual stretching for 10 minutes. Produced in intervals of 30 second stretches and 15 sec rest. Hand grip, load so for approximately at 9kg average.
Day 1 Measured pre BPFSL 23.2 cm and post BPFSL 23.8 cm. Strain of 2.6%. (avg)
Day 2 Measured pre BPFSL 23.2 cm and post BPFSL 23.8 cm. Strain of 2.9%. (avg)*
*difference in average due 1 mm in retroglandular sulcus measurement.

Day 3 Cycle 4
I was checking the gear and find out that the ultrasound machine´s cable was just about to broke as it was badly damaged from the insertion in to the transformer. It has to be fixed and in the meanwhile I decided to run the protocol without it.
I had one 30min vac stretch in the morning.
Second session again 30 minutes at evening followed with 15 minutes manual stretching, both using heated
rice sock all the time. Finished with +20 minutes of dry jelqs.

Measured pre BPFSL 23.2cm and post BPFSL 23.7cm. Strain of 2.4%. (avg)

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START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Congratulations on the milestone! Very much interested in your progress going forward.


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Originally Posted by Buckfever
Congratulations on the milestone! Very much interested in your progress going forward.

Thank you. We are about to find out how everything pans out. I will produce some extra push for girth after Period 3 ,for trying to nail that goal also.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Congrats on the gains. I have a similar issue with my machine, the transducer cable’s insulation is starting to separate but hasn’t become a hazard yet, I don’t know how to go about fixing it though so if you find a solution let us know. This is your first year? You’ve made some amazing progress in such time.

When you start going for girth maybe check out some of xeno’s thoughts on gaining girth. His torture devices have proved to work for him and me in the past.


My MaxVac Setup Longerstretch's Golf Weight and HTW setup My Log

Starting Size: circa 2003: 5 BPEL x 5.0 MSEG August 2007: 6 2/3 BPEL x 5.5 MSEG 04/22/08: 7.5 BPEL x 5.6 MSEG... On and Off again for a while... 11/25/13: 7.75 BPEL x 5.75 MSEG 08/01/19 BPEL 8.03 x 5.6 10/01/19 BPEL 8.19 x 5.6

Kyrpa, what is the rationale begin US at the end of the 30 minute conditioning stretch rather than bring the US heat on from the very start? Thank you so much for all of your valuable information.

Originally Posted by DocJ
Kyrpa, what is the rationale begin US at the end of the 30 minute conditioning stretch rather than bring the US heat on from the very start? Thank you so much for all of your valuable information.

Hi DocJ,

It is a summary of things.
There is still certain time dependency for needed elongation using heat or not, and for the safety reasons I prefer to minimize the time spend under unnatural temperatures. I don´t want to take a change with cooking my precious penile tissues.

Manko has jumped straight on US heated 20min hanging sets, and looking at his data he still needs 2-3 sets to reach the needed strain percentages. So he is spending 40-60 minutes under heat, if I have read it correctly.

First part of the elongation is anyways so elastic and easy to stretch, that it mainly take some time under stretch without efforts greater than that. Then I introduce the heat to continue the elastic elongation and prolong the stiffening of the tissues further and so on.
At the time I think I have squeezed the time spend with exercises to minimum with the total of 60 minutes per workout.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Glad that you asked as I have suspicions already why you asked. The picture attached tells another reason choosing the manual cyclic stretching as the final practice of the workout.

Hey Kyrpa,

I think you struck gold with this 30 sec on 15 secs off. It reminded me how when I was a kid I grabbed grass weeds and try to pull as hard to break just by pulling. It never broke. Then I would push and go on the opposite direction and the pull again and the grass fibers would bend and the grass would break off easily.

I think this is the same phenomenon happening when you cycle stretch. By releasing stretch you allow fibers to collapse back to 0 for 15 secs then reintroduce stretch and fibers are undulating and easier to break aka stretch further. This is also what I believe may be happening with pumping for fun or cyclical pumping with the high vacuum generator some are using. PEforfun pumping I think it was called.

Taking it one step further why not instead of just relaxing 15 secs push tissue in opposite direction of stretch? This could exacerbate the phenomenon.

Come to think about my method I never relax for 20min hanging. But use 3 sets so this in between time is my relax time for 5 min. I think if I hang 20 min cyclical hanging perhaps 1min on 30 secs off and push opposite direction the striated fibers may bend and be easier to tear/elongate. One could also do bends such as creating a wave from end to end undulating the whole fibers as if trying to fold them, only to have them stretch again thereafter. it may prove more effective than straight constant hanging. Excited to try it

I’m planning to get back in the game soon after a long hiatus. Good to see you are still going strong and great results.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by manko007
Hey Kyrpa,

I think you struck gold with this 30 sec on 15 secs off. It reminded me how when I was a kid I grabbed grass weeds and try to pull as hard to break just by pulling. It never broke. Then I would push and go on the opposite direction and the pull again and the grass fibers would bend and the grass would break off easily.

I think this is the same phenomenon happening when you cycle stretch. By releasing stretch you allow fibers to collapse back to 0 for 15 secs then reintroduce stretch and fibers are undulating and easier to break aka stretch further. This is also what I believe may be happening with pumping for fun or cyclical pumping with the high vacuum generator some are using. PEforfun pumping I think it was called.

Taking it one step further why not instead of just relaxing 15 secs push tissue in opposite direction of stretch? This could exacerbate the phenomenon.

Come to think about my method I never relax for 20min hanging. But use 3 sets so this in between time is my relax time for 5 min. I think if I hang 20 min cyclical hanging perhaps 1min on 30 secs off and push opposite direction the striated fibers may bend and be easier to tear/elongate. One could also do bends such as creating a wave from end to end undulating the whole fibers as if trying to fold them, only to have them stretch again thereafter. it may prove more effective than straight constant hanging. Excited to try it

I’m planning to get back in the game soon after a long hiatus. Good to see you are still going strong and great results.

Thanks man. Great to see you back.

I was kinda waiting for you as I have a proposition for you to try. I will run it myself of course to get some more data.

It involves the way for hanging. Instead of using solid weights or plates, we should try chains.

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This would be the form of gradually increasing the load at the start of the stretch to be held to the end during the cyclic stretch.
Lifting the chain from the platform or lowering the platform. It would mimic the manual stretching a lot.

I know that your mindset and approach comes more of a IPR protocol ,and involves the micro tearing based thinking . But after gathering this data and figuring out where we are actually operating on the stress strain curve, I can´t think that it is in such a great role. We do not need to provoke inflammation and we are mostly elongating these collagen fibers beyond their initial elasticity. Yes there occur some micro tears at certain point but it is not in major role.

In fact I am gradually signing off from the classical IPR concept used in PE , more and more day by day.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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