Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Hey there guys,

I have read most of the last pages of this thread. This idea of using Poisson’s ratio/effect is very interesting (I think also highly viable for use in PE).

Usually when I use the extender, there is a degree of compression created by the strap onto my shaft. I wonder if this is contributing towards the ‘gains’ I am perceiving currently. I have not measured in a while, probably won’t measure until end of the year. It just seems like my BPEL is longer than it used to be (it seems like my erections are getting firmer too).

Do you think clamping is essential for length, considering the Poisson effect?

Hope you guys are well,
Regards

I do not think clamping is the way to go for length increases. I am aware of one member who says it gave him length, and another user who says his length gains came from pumping. For most folks though, clamping and pumping produce more girth gains than length. I credit all my length gains to stretching, jelqing, and extending.

Thanks for the response. I understand that traditional clamping is mainly used for girth. As far as I know, traditional clamping is trying to emulate a priapism (I’m unsure if the goal is full vaso-occlusion). I think using the Poisson effect has more to do with either elongation of the “tube” or compression of the “tube”. To this extent, light clamping over a large area might be beneficial to try and facilitate elongation (or that is my interpretation of a possible way to use the Poisson effect on the penis). I don’t think there can be much complication with light clamping over a large area, but please any input would be beneficial!

If I should pick one particular exercise out of my regimen it would be stretching, for which I can contribute majority of my length gains.
And I think I am not going to use clamping or pumping as primary tool for gaining for length.

Nice idea. I think that there have been guys trying similar applications with applying compression on larger areas.
No idea of the effectiveness or possible gains achieved. Searching for clamping should eventually lead you to find many kind of experiments with clamping.

Working out and gathering knowledge

Day 1 Cycle2
Went to collect a new series of data points without jeopardizing the protocol.
30 minutes in conditioning vac stretch with gradually increasing weights in 10 minute intervals 1, 1.6 and 2kg
Followed with a US heated 20 min stretches left and right with a workload of 3,1kg for ten minutes and 4 kg for another ten.

There was that I found the excessive weight for heated sessions to be 4kg.
Warning signs appeared as there started to be sudden feelings of pain and cramping.
Anyways the stiffening of the tissues started to show and the transitional region have been completely achieved.
For the safety of the protocol I will back off one step and for the future I will use 3kg load as maximum for the heated part of the session.

Manual stretching routine for a 10 minutes.
Usual 30 second pulls for 5minutes but now with 5kg maximum.
This was achieved using vac attachment and luggage scale as a tensionmeter.
Another 5 minutes with 6kg which is by the way the maximum for the penimaster suction cup.
For the 30 seconds pulls it is still manageable but I can´t see stretching for longer being possible.

Measured pre BPFSL 23.0 cm and post BPFSL 23.6 cm. Strain of 3.4%. (avg)

Day 2 Cycle 1

Collected few more data points and for now I have enough understanding about transition region.

30 minutes in conditioning vac stretch with stress relaxation for 30 minutes and 2kg.
Followed with a US heated 20 min stretches left and right with a workload of 3,0 kg for ten minutes each direction.
It felt comfortable enough so the load is now on fixed to 3kg.

Measured pre BPFSL 23.1cm and post BPFSL 23.6cm. Strain of 2.9%. (avg)

Day 3 Cycle 2

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OBSERVATIONS
The visco elasticity is seen clearly on the difference of strain using ~9kg load as tissues start to stiffen in the accelerated rate versus 5 -6 kg loads instead.
Using lower load same strain percentage is achieved and still getting past the transition region, as indicated in the graph Strain 3.
Transitional region and the position of the kneepoint seems to be not altered.
I have pinpointed critical points and threshold levels I found to be productive in graph Stretch.

CONCLUSIONS
At this point I am convinced that the continuity of producing effective stretching past the transitional region is confirmed with the concept.
As for the heat and stress relaxation effectiveness, the transition of the knee point and the transitional region seems to found its limit for single exercise.
With these strains reaching the stiffening part of the slope, constant stretching for prolonged times start to be really uncomfortable.

Same goes for loads and the lowering of the loads seems to be productive enough. The threshold limit for the last part of the stretching yet to be found, but it is somewhere between 4-6 kg with 30 seconds cyclic stretches.

Conditioning stretch reach its maximum length at 30 minutes point with 2kg. This is the critical point where the heat should be introduced. If the stretch to be carried out for longer without heat, then stiffening of the tissues starts to develop after this point.

Hi guys! Kyrpa please tell me, is it possible to buy an ultrasound in the range of $ 100-150? What could he do to warm up my Dorsal Thickening, or would you not buy so cheap? So that it warms to the depth, so that my partition could finally be stretched.

Is it enough for me? If I buy one like you, for $ 150. Or do I need more? 3мгц / 2.5 watts / cm2
Guys please help

Sorry for my English

Hello Rudolf9090,

I am running my operation with 150$ machine. I was thinking to get a better one, but I have learned to manage it just nicely with this one.
Now that I have found better gel , I have much better heating sessions. I couldn´t believe the difference it made, as it was like night and day.

The gel I am using is PINO Ultraschall gel.

Machine bought from ebay , it is US Pro 2000 second edition. With 1MHz and 1.6W/cm^2

Someone on MOS is doing the same experiment. I’m curious how this turns out. Is an US good for girth work, or just length?

What you mean the same? Trying this kind of protocol or just ultrasound?

I haven´t run a full time girth only program yet. But after series of experiments it seems very promising. I will have a take on it more seriously in about 5 weeks time .
But for the length it seems to be really effective that´s for sure.

But on aliexpress, did anyone look at powerful ultrasound machines? For an inexpensive price

VERY valuable info Kyrpa. Sorry for the recent radio silence. I’ve run into a business situation that must get sorted out.

Your data above is great and is confirming several suspicions. When you do your 30sec stretches, what is the time period of each deload period between pulls?

I feel the need to mention for someone unfamiliar in stretching terms reading, we should not get confused with cyclic and ballistic stretches.

These are cyclical stretches introduced slowly and gradually increasing the load in 15 seconds ,then holding static stretch until 30 second point. Then releasing completely for 15 seconds to form a new firm grip.

If the load would be introduced quickly or ballistic then the viscolelastic response takes over.

The visocoelastic response of these tissues means that faster stretches make the tissue stiffer, resulting in greater force for a given elongation. After the transitional region same stiffening occurs with increasing weights, leading to unwanted situation where the more load is applied the longer the stretch should be carried.

There is threshold level to be found for the needed load to give the needed 0,5 % strain with minimal time, as all the static long lasting stretches start to be very uncomfortable at strain rates topping 2,5 %.

There are transcripts for physical therapists saying that after tissues are heated with the ultrasound, there is this 10 minutes window where the stretching should be performed. I found this 10 minute for manual stretching being long enough results wise and also for the fact that penile tissues cool down real quickly.

Now that you said it I found that there was some script missing on Day 2 Cycle 2. You can see it in the curves though. Manual stretching was performed with 6 kg for the whole 10 minutes.

Glad that you asked as I have suspicions already why you asked. The picture attached tells another reason choosing the manual cyclic stretching as the final practice of the workout.