Gaining volume with Kyrpa

MY FIRST DAY AND MY RESULTS WITH US ASSISTED PE

DAY 1 of my US assisted PE routine based on what I’ve read from Kyrpa, Manko and others. So heres how it went:

Conditioning Phase:
30 minutes of JES extender (noose type) split into 2 15 minute sessions back to back
Note: I only did this extender because I am just healed from a nasty blister from too much vacuum on my newly purchased PM Pro and wanted to minimize vacuum on my glans for a couple weeks.
To get things warmed up a little, applied 3 minutes of low heat with US at .5W, 100%, 3Mhz at the beginning of both 15 minute sessions - I cranked the extender up as much as it would go.

US Heated Stretching Phase
20 minutes in 2x10 minute increments
Fixing glans with a VacADS4.x (Autoextender Penis Enlargement Device) with coban wrap around my glans, tied a bungee cord to the wall and went as max as I could with that setup without slippage. Sorry I don’t have a potentiometer via luggage weight scale yet, so I don’t know how much force I was generating.
Power with the US unit: 2.0W, 3Mhz, 100% total time in US was about 12 minutes during the 20 minute time, I didn’t keep the heat on continuously. I would apply US for a couple minutes, then off for a minute, then back on.. I didn’t want to cook my unit. After about 8 minutes, I removed the bungee from the wall, then did some upward fulcrum stretches over the metal head of the US transducer while the heat was on. After 10 minutes, I quickly removed the attachment on the glans, re-wrapped and did the same regimen again for another 10. I only did this because I’m paranoid now Ill get another blister and wanted to make sure everything looked good.

Cool Down Phase w/ Manual stretch 10 minutes
Took all the gear off and did upward stretches, 30 seconds on, 15 off as per Kyrpa (or at least the best I could ascertain what he was doing).

Now for the results:
Before 18.0mm BPSFL
After 19.1mm BPSFL

I had to re-meaure a few times because I couldn’t believe it. Thats 6.1% increase. Maybe I over did it: I don’t want to cook myself. Maybe my pre-routine measurement was less than normal because I took some time off and it is just memory bouncing back. Only time will tell. I will post my results from time to time. I did bruise my glans a little to the right a left of the urethra from pulling hard on the manual stretches. I’m not used to doing them.

I just want to thank you guys for all of your valuable information. I believe you are really onto something here. I’ve never got that much increase ever.

Congrats on joining the US gang! That’s a new all time record I believe. My highest strain was 5.88% when I was starting. But that was without US, that was with an IR lamp. Now I get avg. 2-3% with US on my third macro cycle.

As for the cooking, I am not sure you will. Max temp I got was 115 IIRC putting a thermometer inside of my urethra to test how high US temp would go. This was with 1mhz and 3W continuous. I believe 3mhz is not as effective as 1mhz. 1mhz has more depth penetration and also more comfortable than 3mhz. 3mhz never got high temp as easy as 1mhz. But you try yourself which is better for you. There is more info but I forgot, but I record it in my thread if you want to check.

I usually did 3 sets of US 20min each while hanging on my last cycle. Of course, by comparison, Kyrpa only does US 20min and gets better results as far as I know. I think the cyclic stretching is the key. What I am not sure of yet is whether temperature assisted cyclic stretching would be better or the same as non-assisted. But it doesn’t matter, the results speak for themselves. And people are gaining with US method.

Keep it up!

Ha nice!~ I got a digital one because I don’t like to check analog each time. I hope it works well.

“I would apply US for a couple minutes, then off for a minute, then back on.. I didn’t want to cook my unit.”

I also do this for the same reason but take it off for about 30 seconds. It obviously didn’t hurt your results and I have been quick getting results too. Do you use an ultrasound gel or a substitute like aloe? I use an ultrasound gel I got from the local pharmacy but it is made in China and has the blue colour. I found a gel (aquasonic) that is clear and advertises itself as having no formaldehyde or spermicide. Whether other gels do contain these nasties remains to be seen. I would also be interested if anyone knows how we can prevent ultrasound heat going through our units into our balls.

Your best bet is wrapping them in aluminum foil. It has the strongest reflection to US. Or any material really. Even air can’t allow US to travel. If the US is perpendicular to your shaft I doubt the balls get any anyway. Unless you are doing US underwater.

Thanks Manko much appreciated.

From this study pg.8 see graph: http://citeseer x.ist.psu.edu/v … p=rep1&type=pdf
"Fig. 10. Stress–strain plots recorded at intervals during a creep
experiment: The left-hand curve, marked 0 %, was recorded during
the initial ramp to a stress of 60MPa. This caused an elastic strain of
4.0 %. Creep was interrupted by brief sinusoidal oscillations (lasting
two cycles each) on four occasions. In each case, the second loop has
been plotted. The loops are labelled according to the extra strain
(additional to 4.0 %), which was observed at the time the oscillations
were started. The load was removed when the extra strain was 6 %.
By this time, the creep curve was steep and rupture was clearly
imminent. Finally, a ramp to failure was applied, which produced the
right-hand curve (6 %). The respective slopes, at the upper end of each
loading curve, are from left to right 1.77, 1.73, 1.36, 1.27, 1.09,
0.97 GPa, which gives values of the stiffness ratio sr of 0.98, 0.77,
0.72, 0.62, 0.55. Note that the first 1 % of extra strain is accompanied
by only a very small change in sr; it is almost all primary (nondamaging) creep. Values are for wallaby VI at room temperature."

Decreasing stiffness and increasing strain over 4 cycles.

Dang Manko, you put a thermometer up your urethra to validate a hypothesis! I have a whole new level of respect for you. I chose the 3MHz because of the published recommendations for depth of penetration requirements, and energy absorption differences between muscle and tendon/ligament, but I’m sure you know this, you research everything which is so impressive to me that this forum has so many statements that are evidence based. You and Kyrpa are leading the way. I bought the book, Therapeutic Modalities, by Kenneth Draper who is cited in many studies on US rehabilitation and according to him the 3MHz has therapeutic depth of penetration and should be used up to 2.5cm and 1Mhz should be used from 2.5 - 5cm. Since the diameter of my stretched unit is within the 2.5cm range, it heats all the way through. In fact, I have to be careful not to let the transducer stay in one spot too long, I can feel intense heat on the OTHER side of my penis so I know its passing all the way through. BTW, Draper, et al recommend moving the transducer at 4cm/sec either in a linear fashion, or in small circles. What I’ve seem in the literature is that the higher wavelength of 3MHz seems to work better on the collagen rich arrangement in tendon and ligaments than the 1MHz. Also, the 3MHz heats 3x more quickly than the 1MHz per unit time, so I figured for the short routine that I am doing based on Kyrpa’s 20 minutes of heated stretch it might be more efficient. I was wondering the same thing about continuing the heat for the cyclic stretching as well, but Kyrpa had stated that the tissue needs to continue to be/stay stretched during the cool down period.

Thanks again for inspiring me. If I had not read this thread I would still be doing my ADS routine with probably little or no results and wasting hours and hours of my life with a tie wrapped around my waist attached to my Johnson. If you read my prior posts, I had plateau’d for a year and was almost ready to throw in the towel on PE. Now I am more excited than ever at the possibility of hitting my goals and also to be part of this new movement in PE.

Hey NicholasVan,

I tried a commercial gel, but didn’t like the sticky residue and I have very sensitive skin. I just use my spit to keep the area wet and it seems to work fine because my unit heats all the way through very quickly.

Great start Doc,

Don´t get carried away, keep your cool and not get greedy ;)

After few rounds we all tune down in to very similar strain percentages which are reproducible in great fashion.

YOU are inspiration !

Cautious I am as you know. We really can´t draw line between 24 hours continuous stretch and same amount produced as summary during few weeks.

And as you already touched the topic, at the 0.8 and 4.2 hours loading 15% UTS and 30% UTS they couldn´t find statistically significant difference between methods.

With the loads we are operating I estimate we are closer the 15% UTS grop.

What they showed was that tendon can be ruptured well below UTS if stretched long enough and with the sinusoidal stretch pulsating every second the failure comes sooner.

This is what happens with visco elastic biological tissues. They stiffen when initially loaded. Greater the load or the velocity of the stretch the greater the stiffening. With cyclical stretching load applied slowly the stiffening reduces. Repeated more than 10 times the stress strain curve becomes repeatable.

Days 1 and 2 Cycle5

Keeping my head down and just working out.

Only two days of workouts followed by three days of rest.

Day 1 Measured pre BPFSL 23.2 cm and post BPFSL 23.9 cm. Strain of 3.1%. (avg)
Day 2 Measured pre BPFSL 23.3 cm and post BPFSL 23.9 cm. Strain of 2.9%. (avg)

Are you seeing the diminishing strain regularly ?