Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Hi Minceydice,

It have been said many times in this thread already what I mean by cyclic stretching. Google gives you tons of examples of what cyclic stretching, cyclic strain or cyclic loading for ligaments or tendons means.

Cyclic stress in general: Stressing the tissues with series of loading and unloading patterns in a determined frequency with a chosen load.
When using this with stretching it means we will be producing strain on the penis in cyclical fashion.

What I mean with cyclic stretching is that :
- I stretch the penis applying the load in a controlled fashion during 15 seconds ramp.
- Then I hold the stretch for another 15 seconds.
- Then I release the stretch completely for 15 second.
I repeat this pattern for 10 minutes and/or minimum of 10 loading and unloading phases.

So there is nothing new, it is what manual stretching is by nature.

This cyclic stretching is proving most useful to my endeavours. Thanks guys.

I missed this reply yesterday. It’s recommended on vacads 4.x system to use a strip of waterproof tape to protect underside tip area of glans where the vacuum is pulled from and I’d recommend no more than 10 lbs on that system.

Professor Kyrpa,

Thanks for the nice summarization of cyclic stretching. I’m still digesting all of this information and this is helpful to me and I’m sure many others out there as well. Such a great movement here.

Hey Longerstrech,

Thanks for the info. I have used the 3M microfoam adhesive tape per their recommendation and still got a little bruising. I switched to the coban wrap which was the method recommended by the grip system I used years back as it covered more of the glans. Thinking about it, I have been getting too carried away with the force and vacuum. I’m just going commando and not doing it with any measure of the pressure thats there. Who knows how much is being generated. I’m going to now use an inline measure (fish scale) and probably some sort of pressure gauge as not to exceed known limits posted by you here and Kyrpa. Kyrpa warned me, “don’t get greedy”.

Working out just focusing on producing efficient workouts day after day.

During Period 3, (30 days so far):
BPEL 21.4cm -> 21,8 cm +0.4 cm
BPFSL 22.7cm -> 23.5 cm +0.8 cm

Now that I took this road with minimizing the efforts, it is way more greater task to do.
Using extra time here and there is really much more easier, you can be performing at your 70-80%.
But taking this to the limit minimizing time investments you have to give your 100%.

Results are coming similarly as during earlier Periods, BPEL following identically.
BPFSL is hanging on there, just about inside tolerance, still close enough not to worry about it.

What I am really happy this time is that the BPFL is coming along.
I check it all the time but daily differences and inaccuracy of its measurements have made me to record it only after I have confirmed incremental gain of 0.5 cm.
It is now 17 cm and I am convinced that the day will come when my flaccid hang is longer than my starting erect length .
Intensive girth work is needed at some point for topping it with girth too.

Strain percentages were lower than before, but not yet to confirm diminishing strain results.
Lets see how following cycles pan out. At least average strain in this Period 3 is still higher than in two previous.

Days 1 - 2 Cycle5
Keeping my head down and just working out.
Taking just pre and post measurements as there is no practical reason to take anything else.
30 minutes in conditioning vac stretch for stress relaxation with 2kg.

Followed with a US heated 15 min stretches left and right with a workload of 3,0 kg for ten minutes each direction.
Followed with usual manual stretching for 10 minutes with hand grip

Day 1 Measured pre BPFSL 23.4 cm and post BPFSL 23.9 cm. Strain of 2.4%. (avg)
Day 2 Measured pre BPFSL 23.4 cm and post BPFSL 23.9 cm. Strain of 2.4%. (avg)

Day 3, extra resting

Day 4 Cycle 5

As previous days except for cyclic stretching.
I followed advice of capernicus1 , using water in vacuum attachment cup.
It worked out quite nicely as I had similar as previous results with 5-5.3 kg , and without grip issues.
It is still exhaustive and very demanding for the glans to produce the cyclic stretching with vac attachment at these load figures.

Everything above 5 kg seems to be giving similar results on strain with cyclic stretching.

But what have started to puzzle me, is that if there is stress dependency along with needed elongation still for the top of all things?
The minimum amount of recruited and stretched collagen fibrils needed?

I really don´t know. Therefor I will use manual hand grip and + 6kg loads for the rest of this Period 3 and continue experimenting in the future with this aspect.
At least I know my glans will be thanking me.

Measured pre BPFSL 23.4cm and post BPFSL 24 cm. Strain of 2.6%. (avg)

Sounds cool, but there are no professors here. If there were we would be performing way better than this.
If there is, their contributions are lacking badly. Pathetic they are I would say.

Fantastic Kyrpa!

Commitment, exactitude and some form of obsession most often lead to success in my experience.

Most of all I’m curious to see were this will end:)

Thank you very much Sir.

I am as much as curious on the same matter as you are :)

20. They were 20 minutes long. Sorry for the copy paste error.

Kyrpa,

Just to confirm, this current period you are doing 2 days on, 1 day off, 2 days on, 1 day off, etc. In that cycle/order? Your first period at the beginning, you were doing 3 days on, 2 days off, 3 days on, 2 days off, etc. Is that correct? Due to my work constraints, I only have Monday - Friday to workout. Do you think working out w your routine everyday M-F then taking 2 days off on the weekends is too many days in a row?

It is still 3+2. But I have taken some extra rest days here and there some of cycles have been 2 days only etc.

The core is 3+2 and believe or not there is additional elements in my life also which define my priorities. Dick is not on the top of the list after all :)

I have have had my take on 5+2 and I am not recommending it in any circumstances with this concept.

If you are tightly tied in to weekly schedule ,why don´t you go for 3 on 4 off rhythm?

Fantastic results man. Your continued success gives us all hope that gains are in store given effort is put in, and there is no end in sight apparently thus far.

Those questions have always confounded me as well. My take is there is dependency at some level. However you know my main focus has always been increasing load, so there is some bias. And this is in line with traditional PE for length. However, you have proven thus far that not much load is needed and look at your gains. So it is a point in favor of not much dependency.

For the second question. In my understanding, the cyclic loading recruits less fibers than static loading. The cyclic loading recruits the shorter fibers first over and over each cyclic stretch, causing the shorter fibers fatigue and thus breaking. Once broken, the mid length fibers are recruited to support the same load. This happens again and again until a bigger cross section of the tunica is recruited. However, take a look at static stretch, the shorter fibers are elongated until mid are recruited and then long are recruited. Because there is no repetitive fatigue in the short fibers, these may just elongate but not tear to the length of longer fibers. It may not answer the question, but I think with cyclic loading there comes a point where the fibers “snap”. Say you have day 1, day 2, day 3 using 6kg and all are BPFSL at 24cm. And you can’t break through. It may be these shorter fibers have not been fatigued enough to break past 24cm. By increasing the load above normal levels, as the studies show that at 60% UTS cyclic loading causes greater fatigue and shorter fibril rupture, you may break past 24cm by increasing to “60% UTS” (to reference that study) which we don’t know what that would be, but say just for the sake of this example, 10kg (probably nowhere near 60% UTS but still more than 6kg, it may be more or less, whatever is required to break through, this is the point). You fatigue it with 10kg until short fibrils rupture and the mid length fibers are thus fully and primarily recruited. They were secondarily recruited before, now they are primarily recruited. You break past 24cm. Now you have a 24.5 cm dick. There was a displacement that occurred in the stress strain curve to the right, thanks to the larger stress and cyclic fatigue, your shorter fibrils are broken and coiled up (appearing to be crimp but actually just broken, as in that study showed). Now you can go back to your same normal load of 6kg and target the mid range fibers, now that the shorter fibers are out of the picture. Now your mid range fibers may need more than 6kg, because they are longer, they can bear more load before fatigue breaks them. So you may need to increase this to 7kg lets say. Day 1 day 2 day 3 BPFSL is 24.5cm. Repeat the 10+kg fatigue and break through to even longer fibers. Now you at 25cm lets say. Once you are at your larger fibers, there may be diminishing returns. Or simply the weight needed to fatigue these is too painful, etc.

Because you are always manual cyclic stretching and can’t gauge the load accurately, and always at the top of the length of the shortest of your fibrils, this could be the reason why your fibrils fatigue, break, and lead to gains. Because each cycle you are breaking the fibrils that are shorter and moving on to the longer fibrils.

Anyway that is my two cents attempt to try and answer these questions.

However, my answer if true begs the question, once broken what happens to the shorter fibers? Does this lead to collagenous buildup? Repairs are done and integrated to the longer fibers? Or they wither and die and stay coiled up forever? How does this affect the load for the future? Does it increase the required load or no effect?

I have a feeling my static loading the shorter fibers never ruptured, they were elongated only, to 22.8 in my case. Then after a break, they recoiled back up to 21.8. Now with cyclic loading I will aim to break these, so the recoiling can’t happen. And have a permanent length increase.

“then after a break” I mean my hiatus of 100 days, not break as in tearing. I thought that would be confusing to some.

I completed my first 7 week ultrasound cycle. Some of the exercises were fairly new for me and I had just recovered from a blocked lymph vessel, so I started light added time and weight progressively over the 7 weeks. I started using a luggage scale the last week and realized I was using less force then I thought. My ultrasound sound heated stretch was only about 5lbs. I tried clamping the last couple times I used the ultrasound and I cut it short both times out of fear. The expansion was intense and my dick felt like it was kinda numb and almost like rubber. Throughout the cycle I rarely ever felt I was over trained.

I am satisfied with the results, and confident I should be able to match or exceed them in the next cycle. My BPEL increased 5mm and my mseg increased 3mm. I am now taking 17 days off before the next cycle.