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Gaining volume 2

Always fantastic to read your updates my friend.

I wish you many more inches of phallic success!


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Thanks for starting a new volume on volume, Kyrpa.

This is very helpful and I wish you the best on this next chapter and look forward to learning more from you.

I almost finished reading and taking notes on the main ultrasound thread. I have read about 15% of your gaining volume thread but will soon start reading it from the beginning.

I will be purchasing my Ultrasound setup, per your recommendations, this month.

I am not certain that OTL with a vacuum hanger will be my favorite option of exercise. I will still give it several tires and think a pulley system will help provide the proper forces and a hanging noose attachment from Zen Hanger will expose more of my shaft to the transducers.

However, I would still feel like I could achieve a more consistent workout using a traction extender.

I like the traction extender modifications you made by adding a digital scale inline. I will work on replicating this setup. You also had a unique noose added on your traction extender and mentioned that it has a quick disconnect feature as well. You mentioned a name for this modified noose but I was not able to find where I can purchase the materials online. Can you please provide more details on purchase and until s this feature.

Using the traction extender with ultrasound has some unique challenges to overcome. I assume you get more into this in your volume thread, but what I garnered from the general ultrasound thread is that if there is a rice sock on your stomach, you can place an ultrasound phantom on top and then your dick in the extender. Ultrasound gel would be applied to the phantom/dick dorsal (top) side as well between the transducer(s) and the ventral (bottom) side of the dick. It is important to press down with the transducers to make good contact. This seems like it will work but there are still risks as the transducers would be pointing towards organs. A metal plate on the stomach or lead vest could be a solution but they might also reflex the waves, possibly even into the testicles. As such, you seemed to think a rice sock would prevent waves from entering the organs. Is this still how you feel? Would it be better to put a ten + pound bag of rice on our stomach as opposed to a small rice sock?

What are your current thoughts on running ultrasound protocol OTL versus a modified traction extender.

What are you current thoughts on Ultrasound while clamped? Seems like it was a large risk but they it seemed you might have changed your mind and you seemed to be experiment more with this and even discussed a device to hold the transducers and use it to rotate them around the shaft. Please advise.

Thanks Again for Paving The Way!!!


Starting (07/15/20): BPEL 6.5” BPFSL 6.5” MSEG 4.75” BEG 4.75” BPFL 4.5”

Current (10/27/20): BPEL 7.0” BPFSL 7.5” MSEG 5.0”+ BEG 5.25” BPFL 5.25-5.75”

Goal: BPEL 7.5” MSEG 5.5” BEG 6.0” BPFL 6.5”

Post 735 reaffirmed the notion of not using ultrasound while clamped.

Kyrpa - Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

Looking forward to your feedback on the other questions I asked.

Thanks Again


Starting (07/15/20): BPEL 6.5” BPFSL 6.5” MSEG 4.75” BEG 4.75” BPFL 4.5”

Current (10/27/20): BPEL 7.0” BPFSL 7.5” MSEG 5.0”+ BEG 5.25” BPFL 5.25-5.75”

Goal: BPEL 7.5” MSEG 5.5” BEG 6.0” BPFL 6.5”

Originally Posted by Stixman
Post 735 reaffirmed the notion of not using ultrasound while clamped.

Kyrpa - Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE

Looking forward to your feedback on the other questions I asked.

Thanks Again


You know, the common trend around these forums is that someones word is easily taken as
a recommendation.

We can provide the information we have and understand, but is better to let the user decide and not to recommend anything with possible unknown risks.

We can discuss about it, and surely myself and some others continue to try it with clamping process. But the process need to be evaluated as well.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Hi Krypa

I have the 3mghz soundcare plus is it still needed to hang a over leg for heat distributarion with 3mghz? Also is is needed to monitor heat if I’m just using one machine?

Originally Posted by Stixman
However, I would still feel like I could achieve a more consistent workout using a traction extender.

Check this out.

Mike03016 - Mike03016’s Routine


Love thy neighbor.

Originally Posted by Stixman
Thanks for starting a new volume on volume, Kyrpa.

This is very helpful and I wish you the best on this next chapter and look forward to learning more from you.

I almost finished reading and taking notes on the main ultrasound thread. I have read about 15% of your gaining volume thread but will soon start reading it from the beginning.

I will be purchasing my Ultrasound setup, per your recommendations, this month.

I am not certain that OTL with a vacuum hanger will be my favorite option of exercise. I will still give it several tires and think a pulley system will help provide the proper forces and a hanging noose attachment from Zen Hanger will expose more of my shaft to the transducers.

However, I would still feel like I could achieve a more consistent workout using a traction extender.

I like the traction extender modifications you made by adding a digital scale inline. I will work on replicating this setup. You also had a unique noose added on your traction extender and mentioned that it has a quick disconnect feature as well. You mentioned a name for this modified noose but I was not able to find where I can purchase the materials online. Can you please provide more details on purchase and until s this feature.


Stress Relaxation Extender
Breakaway Nylon Coaster, silicone tube, a rubber cock ring having a groove on the outer diameter.
The noose fitting into this groove. The cock ring is robust enough allowing the assembly to grip nicely against the coronal ridge.
Capernicus1 has posted detailed info on how to tune the coaster. I have just brought the idea a bit further.

Originally Posted by Stixman

Using the traction extender with ultrasound has some unique challenges to overcome. I assume you get more into this in your volume thread, but what I garnered from the general ultrasound thread is that if there is a rice sock on your stomach, you can place an ultrasound phantom on top and then your dick in the extender.
Ultrasound gel would be applied to the phantom/dick dorsal (top) side as well between the transducer(s) and the ventral (bottom) side of the dick. It is important to press down with the transducers to make good contact.
This seems like it will work but there are still risks as the transducers would be pointing towards organs. A metal plate on the stomach or lead vest could be a solution but they might also reflex the waves, possibly even into the testicles.
As such, you seemed to think a rice sock would prevent waves from entering the organs. Is this still how you feel? Would it be better to put a ten + pound bag of rice on our stomach as opposed to a small rice sock?

What are your current thoughts on running ultrasound protocol OTL versus a modified traction extender.


A few centimeter-thick rice mass should stop the wave-front from penetrating further and block the reflections.
The extender setup with the ultrasound phantom at the dorsal side works. I just got very frustrated with the difficulty of it, having lots of hassle with the gels, etc.

Doing it comfortably half sitting half laying down the shaft against the abdomen pointing upwards should be easier than doing it shaft pointing SO while sitting straight. The ventral application of ultrasound makes it tricky.

I just love the easiness of the OTL setup. It is very comfortable and the whole process is easily produced.

The extender setup makes sure the stress relaxation can be done perfectly. I had a very good and consistent strain with the dual transducer application on it. If you can make the transducer handling easy and still be able to adjust the load with slippery fingers that will be it.

Originally Posted by Stixman

What are your current thoughts on Ultrasound while clamped? Seems like it was a large risk but they it seemed you might have changed your mind and you seemed to be experiment more with this and even discussed a device to hold the transducers and use it to rotate them around the shaft. Please advise.

Thanks Again for Paving The Way!!!


The ultrasound-heated conventional clamping sets may not be a similar success as the elongation we are achieving with the length protocol.
I am not sure if it´s worth increasing any risks using the ultrasound with a traditional protocol having almost every day workouts for months. Maybe we need something more.

The idea of the method and equipment combining ultrasound heated pumping followed instantly with compression assisted clamping has been developing and I would like to introduce the idea sometime soon in detail.

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START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 06-07-2021 at .

Tremendously Appreciated Fellas!!!

Looking forward to continuing to learn from you, Kyrpa.


Starting (07/15/20): BPEL 6.5” BPFSL 6.5” MSEG 4.75” BEG 4.75” BPFL 4.5”

Current (10/27/20): BPEL 7.0” BPFSL 7.5” MSEG 5.0”+ BEG 5.25” BPFL 5.25-5.75”

Goal: BPEL 7.5” MSEG 5.5” BEG 6.0” BPFL 6.5”

I’m going to get used to OTL hanging. It is one of the few methods I have not spent time on. I tired it once and it didn’t jive. I will practice and read through the threads for recommendations.
I think I might like OTL hanging if I use a simple pulley system.

Time to place some orders.

I’m excited to proceed with the ultrasound protocol.


Starting (07/15/20): BPEL 6.5” BPFSL 6.5” MSEG 4.75” BEG 4.75” BPFL 4.5”

Current (10/27/20): BPEL 7.0” BPFSL 7.5” MSEG 5.0”+ BEG 5.25” BPFL 5.25-5.75”

Goal: BPEL 7.5” MSEG 5.5” BEG 6.0” BPFL 6.5”

Sorry, I hope I am not derailing your thread.

I played around with OTL vacuum hanging process in preparation of proceeding with the ultrasound protocol (lots of “P” for Penis).

Some tips which are helping me.

1) I packed some bounty paper towel into my vacuum cup (bell). This reduces the depth my glans have to enter which in turn exposes more of my shaft surface area for transducer contact.

2) To further expose my shaft, I tied a rubber band around and on top of the silicone sleeve which is used to hold the vacuum cup onto my shaft. I wrapped the rubber band over the silicone to further seal it to my shaft. The rubber band is close to the vacuum cup. This allowed me to fold over the silicone sleeve, which is on my shaft, and stretch it over the vacuum cup. This really exposed a lot more shaft and the rubber band is doing a good job of assisting to keep the silicone sleeve in close contact to my shaft in order to maintain vacuum pressure.

I am now satisfied and confident with OTL hanging and do not have a need to try out the Zen-hanger noose attachment (I actually just made my own and do not like it and it provides unequal pulling force and could cut off circulation if it is too tight or simply slip off of it is not tight enough l).

I also like that I can spread my leg out to apply more force if needed.

I can also understand how this is the optimal position and using the traction extender, pointed up, will be more cumbersome and I will have less control of two transducers and will not be able to press the transducers down as firmly into my shaft.


Starting (07/15/20): BPEL 6.5” BPFSL 6.5” MSEG 4.75” BEG 4.75” BPFL 4.5”

Current (10/27/20): BPEL 7.0” BPFSL 7.5” MSEG 5.0”+ BEG 5.25” BPFL 5.25-5.75”

Goal: BPEL 7.5” MSEG 5.5” BEG 6.0” BPFL 6.5”

Originally Posted by Stixman
Sorry, I hope I am not derailing your thread.

I played around with OTL vacuum hanging process in preparation of proceeding with the ultrasound protocol (lots of “P” for Penis).

Some tips which are helping me.

1) I packed some bounty paper towel into my vacuum cup (bell). This reduces the depth my glans have to enter which in turn exposes more of my shaft surface area for transducer contact.

2) To further expose my shaft, I tied a rubber band around and on top of the silicone sleeve which is used to hold the vacuum cup onto my shaft. I wrapped the rubber band over the silicone to further seal it to my shaft. The rubber band is close to the vacuum cup. This allowed me to fold over the silicone sleeve, which is on my shaft, and stretch it over the vacuum cup. This really exposed a lot more shaft and the rubber band is doing a good job of assisting to keep the silicone sleeve in close contact to my shaft in order to maintain vacuum pressure.

I am now satisfied and confident with OTL hanging and do not have a need to try out the Zen-hanger noose attachment (I actually just made my own and do not like it and it provides unequal pulling force and could cut off circulation if it is too tight or simply slip off of it is not tight enough l).

I also like that I can spread my leg out to apply more force if needed.

I can also understand how this is the optimal position and using the traction extender, pointed up, will be more cumbersome and I will have less control of two transducers and will not be able to press the transducers down as firmly into my shaft.


You will know for sure once you have the ultrasound.

You can always write detailed descriptions of your discoveries on your progress log and then post a referential notes in here if commentary is needed.

I am sure you will be helped anyways.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

I am not able to locate the following. Can you please point me a location to purchase these,
“ rubber cock ring having a groove on the outer diameter”.

Much Appreciated

I just purchased my Ultrasound setup based on your recommendations and will start a dedicated log.

Thanks again for your dedicated research and sharing it with us.


Starting (07/15/20): BPEL 6.5” BPFSL 6.5” MSEG 4.75” BEG 4.75” BPFL 4.5”

Current (10/27/20): BPEL 7.0” BPFSL 7.5” MSEG 5.0”+ BEG 5.25” BPFL 5.25-5.75”

Goal: BPEL 7.5” MSEG 5.5” BEG 6.0” BPFL 6.5”

Originally Posted by Stixman
I am not able to locate the following. Can you please point me a location to purchase these,
“ rubber cock ring having a groove on the outer diameter”.

Much Appreciated

I just purchased my Ultrasound setup based on your recommendations and will start a dedicated log.

Thanks again for your dedicated research and sharing it with us.

I have absolutely no idea where from. From a local sex shop, I suppose.
Look for a similar solution.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa

The ultrasound-heated conventional clamping sets may not be a similar success as the elongation we are achieving with the length protocol.
I am not sure if it´s worth increasing any risks using the ultrasound with a traditional protocol having almost every day workouts for months. Maybe we need something more.

The idea of the method and equipment combining ultrasound heated pumping followed instantly with compression assisted clamping has been developing and I would like to introduce the idea sometime soon in detail.

Sorry, I forgot that you posted about this topic in this particular thread, which seems more geared to the application methods.

It appears the thread below is really more about the science of tunica anatomy and the physics needed to alter the physiology of the penis and that it is a separate thread so as not to dilute this thread.

Trying Not To, Still Are

As a New Yorker, we are typically not patient and often participate in conversations when friends from other states would prefer that we should be listening, lol.

Patiently waiting to read more of Volume 2, as it develops, and still have much of Volume 1 to read and learn from.

(Life has been extremely busy and active PE, maintaining my log, reading volume 1 have been on
hold for the most part.)


Starting (07/15/20): BPEL 6.5” BPFSL 6.5” MSEG 4.75” BEG 4.75” BPFL 4.5”

Current (10/27/20): BPEL 7.0” BPFSL 7.5” MSEG 5.0”+ BEG 5.25” BPFL 5.25-5.75”

Goal: BPEL 7.5” MSEG 5.5” BEG 6.0” BPFL 6.5”

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