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Gaining volume with Kyrpa

I mean TDP lamps are probably similar to other ceramic emitters in surface temperature and wavelength.

Originally Posted by Azazello
60 sessions in 20 weeks, 30-40 min each at 10W 3MHz US. 1.2-1.5 kg load. No IR heat is used. I have a 150W ceramic bulb emitter, will try to add it later in parallel, maybe replace it with 250W if necessary.
I am able to get the whole unit warm but only about a 2” length gets hot at a time when I massage one small section in circular motion. Hot means the skin on the thigh under it gets pink and I feel the warmth coming through. When the heat in the unit becomes unpleasant, then I move on to a different area. Takes about 5 min per area. Warm up with US takes about 15 min, then targeted heating for 15-25 min.
No other protocol used. Gained 15 mm stretched length, no other gains. EQ is good, no soreness.

I think there is not much to gain at the moment. The campaign has been extensively very long already. I think you should take the decon now. Next time your gains stall I should recommend to leave it there. Extra weeks propably will not bring you further gains.

10 W output, so you are using 5cm^2 ERA transducer? That would give 2w/cm^2. Curious to know for making relevant comparison for others.
Anyways the description sounds familiar , even if you are not using thermometer.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

I stand corrected, 2.2 W/cm^2 at 5 cm^2 area.

Yes, no point continuing the same. Will try with IR.

What is the minimum decon time? I recall you did a few months?

How are your ESWT results? I wonder if it also can help with fixing a curve.

Originally Posted by Azazello
60 sessions in 20 weeks, 30-40 min each at 10W 3MHz US. 1.2-1.5 kg load. No IR heat is used. I have a 150W ceramic bulb emitter, will try to add it later in parallel, maybe replace it with 250W if necessary.
I am able to get the whole unit warm but only about a 2” length gets hot at a time when I massage one small section in circular motion. Hot means the skin on the thigh under it gets pink and I feel the warmth coming through. When the heat in the unit becomes unpleasant, then I move on to a different area. Takes about 5 min per area. Warm up with US takes about 15 min, then targeted heating for 15-25 min.

Your the first one who described the amount of shaft length that gets heated. So 2” of the shaft length is heated while you massage ina small circular motion with the US heating device. So our workout could be working 2-3 seperate sections of the c0ck at different times.

Originally Posted by Azazello

No other protocol used. Gained 15 mm stretched length, no other gains. EQ is good, no soreness.

15mm in stretched length. How much ERECT length did that translate into? How long did it take to get the additional 15mm of stretched length? Has EQ enhanced after adding the US heating? Was there a flaccid gain? Were you on PE methods before and what size did you start and what size did you get to before adding US heating?

Originally Posted by Azazello

I looked at IR heat sorces. Ideal is ceramic-carbon plates at 8 microns and 200F surface. Pure carbon plates are 10 microns and 140F surface. Pure ceramic heaters are compact, peak at 4-5 microns (most of the spectrum is 2-10 microns) and reach 400-500F. Quartz is inferior with the peak is at 1-3 microns. I think TDP lamps are similar.

Thanks for the additional feedback to this thread.

Originally Posted by djrobins

15mm in stretched length. How much ERECT length did that translate into? How long did it take to get the additional 15mm of stretched length? Has EQ enhanced after adding the US heating? Was there a flaccid gain? Were you on PE methods before and what size did you start and what size did you get to before adding US heating?

It is flaccid gain 19->20.5 after US, no gain in erect length or girth. EQ roughly the same as before US, could be a little better but certainly not worse. Previously I have tried the newbie/JP90 routine with IR heat and pumping at 3-5 inch Hg in air and in hot water with very limited success between 0-5 mm over 9 months, hard to say, could be due to inconsistent measurements. Years ago I have tried jelqing without any system and no gain either. This is why I was so excited to try Kyrpa’s method.

Originally Posted by Azazello
It is flaccid gain 19->20.5 after US, no gain in erect length or girth. EQ roughly the same as before US, could be a little better but certainly not worse. Previously I have tried the newbie/JP90 routine with IR heat and pumping at 3-5 inch Hg in air and in hot water with very limited success between 0-5 mm over 9 months, hard to say, could be due to inconsistent measurements. Years ago I have tried jelqing without any system and no gain either. This is why I was so excited to try Kyrpa’s method.

Similar to me, the flaccid length gain has followed the BPFSL gains almost identically.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Sorry for the misunderstanding, should have said these are BPFSL measurements, I do not track flaccid non-stretched length as it varies too much and is unreliable.

Originally Posted by Azazello
It is flaccid gain 19->20.5 after US, no gain in erect length or girth. EQ roughly the same as before US, could be a little better but certainly not worse. Previously I have tried the newbie/JP90 routine with IR heat and pumping at 3-5 inch Hg in air and in hot water with very limited success between 0-5 mm over 9 months, hard to say, could be due to inconsistent measurements. Years ago I have tried jelqing without any system and no gain either. This is why I was so excited to try Kyrpa’s method.

At the end of PE for me around 10 years ago, I reached a length where additional BPFSL was not getting additional BPEL. My BPEL pegged at around 8.5-8.65”, and the BPFSL had greater than an additional .75” gains without any BPEL increases. Maybe you guys reached those points.

At that time I imagined that the internal CC bladders needed to get larger to fill out any potential length gains, but stretching them lengthwise was obviously not giving the gain in BPEL anymore…

Perhaps at this point I should have been more aggressive on clamping, to force additional internal growth to fill out the length “potential”, which was expressed by the BPFSL increase.

So can we successfully “US Heat” a clamped cock?


Last edited by djrobins : 11-24-2020 at .

Originally Posted by djrobins
At the end of PE for me around 10 years ago, I reached a length where additional BPFSL was not getting additional BPEL. My BPEL pegged at around 8.5-8.65”, and the BPFSL had greater than an additional .75” gains without any BPEL increases. Maybe you guys reached those points.

At that time I imagined that the internal CC bladders needed to get larger to fill out any potential length gains, but stretching them lengthwise was obviously not giving the gain in BPEL anymore…

Perhaps at this point I should have been more aggressive on clamping, to force additional internal growth to fill out the length “potential”, which was expressed by the BPFSL increase.


Yes DJ, I really believe you would have benefitted like you are saying.

That is the hypothesis behind the girth orientated work I have been starting to incorporate once the BPFSL gains has started to stall. BPEL has been coming then with a delay.
Azazello could possibly benefit similarly at this point. His length campaing has been really long, it has been indicated for many cases that the BPFSL increases maximum of two months despite the intensive efforts and perfectly executed heating.

Originally Posted by djrobins

So can we successfully “US Heat” a clamped cock?

Even with conventional clamping after these kind of BPFSL gains.
And yes it can be amplified with US. Unfortunately not with the magnitude as seen with length. At this point at least.
Myself and few others have been trying many forms and they are promising. Hopefully we can find something special soon.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Azazello
I stand corrected, 2.2 W/cm^2 at 5 cm^2 area.
Yes, no point continuing the same. Will try with IR.

What is the minimum decon time? I recall you did a few months?
How are your ESWT results? I wonder if it also can help with fixing a curve.

I finally took 5 + 1 month off. During the one and half year campaign prior having already three weeks to two months breaks.
Apparently they were not sufficient enough to keep the engine going at full throttle.

Now after this reset I am planning to go with 8-10 week on, 8-12 week off periodization. And for top of that still thinking that at least 4 - 6 months every 18-24 months is necessary.
Anyways I am planning to be a full time PE practitioner two years more. Initially I was ready to wrap things up at three years pole, but after understanding the need for long breaks is inevitable the plan has already extended.

ESWT, what could I say. Using it in low energy setting, radial application, low dose treatments maximum of two times a week for no longer than three weeks a row is beneficial for erection and for penile health. Going for more during any PE campaign will turn against the user hindering BPFSL development.

Unsettling the homeostasis in ECM of the TA with focused application and moderate energy, when going for the decon can be shocking experience . It most certainly does what has been seen in studies already . It induces collagen degradation in healthy tissues , which can be seen as a radical shortening of the BPFSL by just few treatments.

After seeing some powerful indications I have to say the way some people in here has been deploying ESWT to their dicks is just outrageously ignorant.

There are some studies easily found indicating positive outcomes in breaking calcified plaques from Peyronies disease with ESWT and also with ultrasound.
If the curve is because of these conditions or some other form of scar formation then yes, it is plausible to straighten curve.
But not all curves are formed due ill conditions. Also we are not building scar tissue in our dicks as a default, despite how abusive are our methods.

Treating fully healthy tissue with curve expecting it to straighten is another thing. After all some men have reported to slightly straighten their curves due PE already.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Stress Relaxation Extender

This here being the latest iteration of the stress relaxation setup I have been using now.

It has the load cell and safety release option as well.

Original springs have been eliminated and the original PM crate is a slider now.

As a noose there is a special clamp type noose made out of Breakaway coaster clamp.

This has provided a perfect grip and over all user experience.

With the synthetic gelatin pad on the top of the shaft as a ultrasound phantom, applying two ultrasound transducer below the heating has been much better than I ever expected.
Not yet to run a heat cycle with thermometer monitoring but it is in production.

Sitting down, pointing the extender up I can start as low as 1.5kg, and bringing it down horizontally go as far as 3kg easily.

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START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
This here being the latest iteration of the stress relaxation setup I have been using now.

It has the load cell and safety release option as well.

Original springs have been eliminated and the original PM crate is a slider now.

As a noose there is a special clamp type noose made out of Breakaway coaster clamp.

This has provided a perfect grip and over all user experience.

With the synthetic gelatin pad on the top of the shaft as a ultrasound phantom, applying two ultrasound transducer below the heating has been much better than I ever expected.
Not yet to run a heat cycle with thermometer monitoring but it is in production.

Sitting down, pointing the extender up I can start as low as 1.5kg, and bringing it down horizontally go as far as 3kg easily.

Original adjustment tread bars being in use I can go easily to 1.8 to 3.6 kg range depending of the angle.
At the end of the heated stretch the load indicating 3.3kg at horizontal level, dropping it down towards the floor for the cooldown the load is indicating +5 kg at the start. After 10 minutes it has dropped to ~4.2 kg as a result of the final stress relaxation at the maximal lenght.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
This here being the latest iteration of the stress relaxation setup I have been using now.

It has the load cell and safety release option as well.

Original springs have been eliminated and the original PM crate is a slider now.

As a noose there is a special clamp type noose made out of Breakaway coaster clamp.

This has provided a perfect grip and over all user experience.

With the synthetic gelatin pad on the top of the shaft as a ultrasound phantom, applying two ultrasound transducer below the heating has been much better than I ever expected.
Not yet to run a heat cycle with thermometer monitoring but it is in production.

Sitting down, pointing the extender up I can start as low as 1.5kg, and bringing it down horizontally go as far as 3kg easily.

That is wonderful. I have in mind a similar device, is just that I haven’t allocated the time to develop. Either that, or a hanger type device with pulley and load cell.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
This here being the latest iteration of the stress relaxation setup I have been using now.

It has the load cell and safety release option as well.

Original springs have been eliminated and the original PM crate is a slider now.

As a noose there is a special clamp type noose made out of Breakaway coaster clamp.

This has provided a perfect grip and over all user experience.

With the synthetic gelatin pad on the top of the shaft as a ultrasound phantom, applying two ultrasound transducer below the heating has been much better than I ever expected.
Not yet to run a heat cycle with thermometer monitoring but it is in production.

Sitting down, pointing the extender up I can start as low as 1.5kg, and bringing it down horizontally go as far as 3kg easily.

That is brilliant, well done. I’ve been trying to figure out how to put a scale on my extender, you did a really good job.


Oct 2011: BPEL 6.38" MSEG 4.72"

March 2017: BPEL 7.4" MSEG 5.25"

June 2018: BPEL 7.5" MSEG 5 3/8"

Originally Posted by Ramrod360
That is brilliant, well done. I’ve been trying to figure out how to put a scale on my extender, you did a really good job.

Maybe you can bring it further. This works perfectly otherwise but the slider crate should be more robust. It bends because of the eccentricity of the noose clamp.
The bending causes some discontinuity on the load readings. But making some careful re-adjustments each time after reloading it can be eliminated.
This being a prototype I intend to make some further engineering on it in the future. As a basic model it works just fine.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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