Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Kypra, I have a question.

Been doing a slightly adapted version of your length routine with the same core steps and principles, and I have seen something weird recently.

BPFSL1 was 19.1 yesterday, BPFSL2 was 19.36.

Today, BPFSL1 was 19.52, BPFSL2 (right after workout) was 19.36. Then a few minutes later, it stretched to 19.68. That is only a 0.92% strain, but the jump from initial preworkout measurement yesterday to today’s seems incredible. Have you seen any such jumps in your experience?

Thanks

To clarify, I didn’t hold today’s BPFSL2 stretch for several minutes. After taking the first measurement, I did other stuff for a few minutes and then tested again, fresh. Also today I measured a new BPEL record. I wonder if there’s a proportion of BPEL to BPFSL that would be consistently true. In my case, it seems to be about 90-93% BPSFL.

Few already have had similar jumps. Tutt made enormous jump withhis US protocol on his first rounds. Igigi did also with this US protocol of mine I believe.
I did not have myself, the process has produced steady progress since started.
Though I still think you have not yet settled the measuring tactics completely.

Too early to make big statements but if you can have 70-80% of the BPFSL gain as a BPEL elongation in your first campaign that would be success.
Going forward the gap starts to stabilize and your BPEL should follow the BPFSL development with some sort of delay from weeks to months.
If you have everything working perfectly that will.

I think you’re right about that for sure. I’m trying to be as consistent as possible but it’s tricky. I do feel like my initial post workout measurements are stiffer, rather than looser, than my originals, but over time it relaxes more. I’m not sure why that is, but I’m making progress so I won’t question it.

Interesting, thanks. I’ll try to keep track of the difference as I make it through this first period.

Your “weird” situation seems to be something not that uncommon, I have that situation too, even today after more than 2 months without using US. Currently I am constantly measuring BPFSL, which has stayed all this time at 24cm. BUT, I have some weird circumstances. Every time I measure, I NEVER tug my penis out. Not anymore. I always grab the glans, inhale, exhale, and slowly start puling outwards. Never fighting it, just going with its own elasticity. Until I reach the limit after some 10 seconds. Of course it gets to 24cm. But it happens sometimes, and I dont understand how and why, that I pull out, and it feels very rubbery. And when I measure, I am at 24.4-24.5cm. To my surprise, I measure 2, 3, 4 times to make sure it was not my mistake. And it is not. For some reason sometimes it stretched out more than usual. I dont know if it something related with the relaxation of the inner muscles, tendons, etc. Anyways, I dont dream about it, I just consider 24 as my limit.

By the way, yes most of my therapy was based on Kyrpa’s which was already a proven protocol.

Kyrpa

Where can I find the weight scale is not restricted

I only know American Weight Scales AWS products having the option to turn off both, hold and automatic shuttdown features.

Probaply there are others but it seems to be really hard to find.

Kyrpa, first thanks for a great thread. It’s inspired me to get back into PE after many years of on & off half-assery. Hoping to get some motivating gains this time around!

I’ve picked up a couple US PRO units, started with ultrasound back splash using opposite hand, which was spotty, so decided to try out a phantom gel. I got the Humimic gel you recommended and tried molding in a tin-foil mold, messed that up.. I was imagining it would stay a little viscous, but stuff really turns to water and got into all the foil cracks. Salvaged most of it, so my question is: do you think this is safe & sanitary to use and clean (soap & water) as the bare gel, or should I keep it isolated in a plastic bag when touching my unit?

Yes. the mold shouldbe some sort of smooth surfaced steel or polycarbonate made container.

They say the gel being synthetic it should be able to use as it is . Sanitized some how prior the use.
Being reusable it can be then molded again if threre are cracks vulnerable to any kind of suspected contamination.

First of all I am forced to withdraw from PE for some weeks, so I might as well go for the extended break by the same token.

This is after I read how much time Beardeddragon had to take off to cure the sclerosing lymphangitis.
I happen to have developed similar issue. Whether it comes from the use of noose clamp exposure or was induced by the excessive sex marathon with cockring I am not sure. Maybe the combination of both.

I did have some girth sessions though despite of it and there is not much to tell from.

It is frustrating as the efficiency of the exercises is very hard to determine.
In comparison to established length protocol where the indications are easy to read.
Having maximal strain during exercises produce gains, it is that simple.

But the girth. The plethora of variables makes the evaluation almost impossible.
You would need to perform series of repetitions of the exercise god knows how long to make any decisions whether or not the exercise is effective enough.

The problem is that the expansion during the exercise is biased by the level of fluid retention which cant be totally excluded no matter what. There is always some degree of it independent of the exercise performed.
Now the girth enlargement by the exercise can not be trusted as a indicator at all.

I am unwilling to step into the realms of anecdotal PI’s solely keeping on the track.
We all have seen enough stories of people telling about positive signs for months not really gaining anything.
I have no motivation to go that route.

The girth development in the magnitude of established length concept remains unsolved.
I am not finished yet, staying relentless to figure out something.

Over and out for some time now with the personal PE routines.

I have had those sclerosing lymphangitis things but they go away on their own. I have had many, nerve stopped sex or PE. So hurt a little bit, but eventually they go away.

I completely agree with Girth exercises. In fact, many users measure after coming out of the pump. That is a completely FALSE reading. Probably 98% of that expansion is fluid buildup.

The only way to accurately measure girth, is perhaps monthly. Keep a routine, by the end of the month stop, measure an erected girth after 3 days of stopping the routine in order to have an accurate reading.

Sorry to hear of your setback.

Continually inspired to your commitment to continue exploring and researching PE methods.

Heal Up!!!

Be Well!!!

It is a long distance run I can see.

Thanks. It is not hurting though. But the scrotum skin getting red does not make me feel that good about it.
I have signs of it gertting better with rest, so that’ll be it then.

Nothing serious but takes the time to go away.

Hello Kyrpa et al.

First of all I would like to thank you for the huge amount of information you share with us. It is really impressive what has been done in this (and other) threads. I am convinced that your research will go into the history of PE. Many thanks for that.

After reading your thread (and I certainly didn’t catch it all), I started using ultrasound. At first I had an odyssey with a Spanish device (Weelko) that was specified with 3 W/cm^2. After I wrote to the manufacturer, it was clear to me why I have only small successes. The device brings only 0.5 W/cm^2. This is a cosmetic device and afterwards I read (here in the thread) that these devices do not correspond to our desired performance class.

First I started with vacuum, which ended in disaster (I have no experience with vacuum ==> blisters). Finally I built a Bib myself out of spruce/fir. A mixture of Bib and Lengthmaster :)
Using pulleys under my desk, I attached a bucket of rocks to create the desired force (30 min tension relaxation from 1 kg ascending to 2 kg, then 25 min US at 3.5 kg, plus 10 min cool down at 3.5 kg).

I fired the dorsal side with the transducer and also used an IR lamp from above (distance 20 cm). I guess that’s where my elongation came from despite the 0.5 W/cm^2
After 42 days (25 on-days) I bought I-TECH Mio-Sonic - ultrasound handheld device, which is pretty much the same as the recommended device here (1.6 W/cm^2). Unfortunately, since the I-TECH also has a temperature sensor, it shuts down intermittently under IR after a few minutes.
Source: Ultraschalltherapie Handgerät für zu Hause - 1MHz + 6.4Watt

Unfortunately, I could not improve the strains, they started to fall. So after 58 days (36 on-days) I decided to go into a Decon break. I will do 4 - 6 weeks of mid-EG jelqs (25 min under IR), then go full decon for 3 to 5 weeks.
I am worrying all the time how to continue as I am not happy with the results. And now we come to the quoted post of yours.

There has been a lot written in the thread about US pads, and I’m wondering why no one (maybe I read over it) has considered gel pads yet.
I have ordered these:
Kalt-warm Kompresse 8x13 cm 1 St | Delmed
I have done both variations:
1. Gel pad ventral, US dorsal.
2. Gel pad dorsal, US ventral

Since I did these trials after about 45 days (see above), I’m not sure if the results are any good. In any case, I couldn’t see much difference, but unfortunately I couldn’t reach the targeted 3% either.

In the two months of US I was able to gain 8 mm BPFSL. BPEL growth is in total 2 mm despite 20 min Jelq after each US application. This is - compared to the other results here - very disillusioning.

At the end of January 2021, I would like to start again with US and be perfectly prepared. Based on your immense wealth of experience, I would like to hear your opinion. I have considered the following options:

A. Gel pad ventral, US (1 MHz, 1.6 W/cm^2) dorsal
B. Gel pad dorsal, US (1 MHz, 1.6 W/cm^2) ventral
C. I noticed that the Delta machine is now available in Germany. If I am willing to invest another 210 €, I could use variant A with 3 MHz and 2 W/cm^2.

What is your opinion about the options? Or do you have any better idea?

I am very much looking forward to your answer and would like to thank you very much!

Kippes & Thanks
Rocco