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Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Actuallly it does have its own individual tunica. One thin layer consisting longitudinal fibers. . Then it is enveloped by Buch’s fascia.


Must have been on sleep. Circular, not longitudinal.

"The TA of the CS consisted of only one layer with circularly oriented fibers; no longitudinal fibers were detected in any of the specimens
examined."
Histologic study of the tunica albuginea of the penis and mode of cavernosus muscles’ insertion in it


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Thank’s for the information. Still, I can’t picture why the CS becomes softer as the septum becomes the limiting factor more and more because the CS has its own “shell”.

Have you noticed a hardening of the CS as your septum extended due to the new protocol? If so, then the glans should become more pronounced as well. Have you noticed anything like that?


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Also, did your CC become harder while erect under the protocol?


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by wurst
Thank’s for the information. Still, I can’t picture why the CS becomes softer as the septum becomes the limiting factor more and more because the CS has its own “shell”.

Have you noticed a hardening of the CS as your septum extended due to the new protocol? If so, then the glans should become more pronounced as well. Have you noticed anything like that?

For me the PE itself has been cure for poorly inflated glans and CS which troubled me for decade. I used to have these raging hard erections , CC being hard and the glans and the CS still staying very soft and not filled up.
Now the inflation of this part of the penis is significantly better and very rarely these weird erections occur. I would say only after pumping.

The vacuum attachment has been a key for the glans size improvement as well, it has grown quite a bit and I would say all because of the vacuum hanger.
The glans and the CS will always be softer than the CC:s , that is the anatomic fact.

Well trained IC and BC muscles will provide enhanced pressure and puffier look on the glans and CS .


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by wurst
Also, did your CC become harder while erect under the protocol?

My EQ has improved since I started two years ago , while at the time it was poor. Impossible to point out which certain aspect contributed the most.

At the time I introduced the ultrasound I was still exercising too much which affected EQ.
When I went to the established protocol I cut the exercisign to a minimum and had great improvement.
Is the glans/ CS erectile improvements because of one part only, I highly doubt it.

Now that I have been using ESWT as well, it is even harder to say anymore because it is a long process , improvement should be coming as the tissues renew themselves.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by wurst
Thank’s for the information. Still, I can’t picture why the CS becomes softer as the septum becomes the limiting factor more and more because the CS has its own “shell”.

Have you noticed a hardening of the CS as your septum extended due to the new protocol? If so, then the glans should become more pronounced as well. Have you noticed anything like that?

BINGO!!!
Just as Kyrpa experienced it too, one characteristic I had all along withe the Septum limitation, was that with the growth of other tissues, my CS became softer tan ever before, and flat. Usually during a hard erection you can see all the structure of the penis protruding like the space shuttle with its 2 solid rocket boosters and the main tank. In my case I could have the 2 hard solid rocket boosters (CC) but no main tank (CS) LOL. It bothered somewhat for many years along with inability to make further progress in length.

Now, after adding these 2 extra centimeters of septum, my CS has restored to its “normal” shape. During an erection now it seems like its harder, perhaps because now it is stretched too, and it is also more inflated than before.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
BINGO!!!
Just as Kyrpa experienced it too, one characteristic I had all along withe the Septum limitation, was that with the growth of other tissues, my CS became softer tan ever before, and flat. Usually during a hard erection you can see all the structure of the penis protruding like the space shuttle with its 2 solid rocket boosters and the main tank. In my case I could have the 2 hard solid rocket boosters (CC) but no main tank (CS) LOL. It bothered somewhat for many years along with inability to make further progress in length.

Now, after adding these 2 extra centimeters of septum, my CS has restored to its “normal” shape. During an erection now it seems like its harder, perhaps because now it is stretched too, and it is also more inflated than before.

Very Interesting


Starting (07/15/20): BPEL 6.5” BPFSL 6.5” MSEG 4.75” BEG 4.75” BPFL 4.5”

Current (10/27/20): BPEL 7.0” BPFSL 7.5” MSEG 5.0”+ BEG 5.25” BPFL 5.25-5.75”

Goal: BPEL 7.5” MSEG 5.5” BEG 6.0” BPFL 6.5”

Originally Posted by igigi
BINGO!!!
Just as Kyrpa experienced it too, one characteristic I had all along withe the Septum limitation, was that with the growth of other tissues, my CS became softer tan ever before, and flat. Usually during a hard erection you can see all the structure of the penis protruding like the space shuttle with its 2 solid rocket boosters and the main tank. In my case I could have the 2 hard solid rocket boosters (CC) but no main tank (CS) LOL. It bothered somewhat for many years along with inability to make further progress in length.

Now, after adding these 2 extra centimeters of septum, my CS has restored to its “normal” shape. During an erection now it seems like its harder, perhaps because now it is stretched too, and it is also more inflated than before.


Houston, we had a problem.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Houston, we had a problem.

😂


Starting (07/15/20): BPEL 6.5” BPFSL 6.5” MSEG 4.75” BEG 4.75” BPFL 4.5”

Current (10/27/20): BPEL 7.0” BPFSL 7.5” MSEG 5.0”+ BEG 5.25” BPFL 5.25-5.75”

Goal: BPEL 7.5” MSEG 5.5” BEG 6.0” BPFL 6.5”

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
There will be non responders also for this protocol that´s for sure. At this point we don´t know what the overall percentage of gainers will be, anything north of 80% would be a nobel prize gategory when treating tumors.

There was one guy fitting your describtion which we , and me privately tried to help. Everything seemed allright in his protocol but the strain achieved in the workouts stayed low. Despite some adjustments in techniques he never made it. Then he went to a decon as far as I know.
Maybe he was at the state of diminishing gains because the former gains, maybe it was that he never got the temperature right, maybe he couldn´t tolerate the right load, I don´t know. He had a history of gaining 2 cm in two years if I recall it right, followed with months of frustrating struggles to gain anything.

It have become very clear that we can fight the nature only to a certain point, gains will stall with every method, even with this concept.

If someone is having trouble to gain for months or even years they should stop everything they do immediately and go for the decon for months.
Maybe then come back to start with this protocol. Even then the probabilty for someone gaining nothing is there.


Your Protocol is 100% working, I have enough experience in penis enlargement and I have seen this concept for myself, even with a profit of 4 cm in length due to the ligaments and the inner part of the penis. However, the tunic, 9 years it could not move from the place, this cord consisted of metal. And there is nothing to do with it except to start working exactly as Kyrpa offers, but the fact is that penis enlargement consists of many nuances, and the Protocol that Kyrpa offers can only be implemented by an experienced person who has already experienced years of beating against the wall and tried a lot. I do not believe that if you do everything as it is written , you will not be able to achieve results. Even Peyronie can’t stop this process, as there is evidence of penis growth and with it. People think that you can grow just by twitching your penis for a couple of dozen minutes and doing vascular exercises, but all their growth, if there is one, is just luck from their unique, individual anatomy. For the majority, this is the Protocol that we are promoting here. Experienced and understanding people have long understood that the revolution began with the arrival of Kyrpa’s.

Originally Posted by S.N.R
Your Protocol is 100% working, I have enough experience in penis enlargement and I have seen this concept for myself, even with a profit of 4 cm in length due to the ligaments and the inner part of the penis. However, the tunic, 9 years it could not move from the place, this cord consisted of metal. And there is nothing to do with it except to start working exactly as Kyrpa offers, but the fact is that penis enlargement consists of many nuances, and the Protocol that Kyrpa offers can only be implemented by an experienced person who has already experienced years of beating against the wall and tried a lot. I do not believe that if you do everything as it is written , you will not be able to achieve results. Even Peyronie can’t stop this process, as there is evidence of penis growth and with it. People think that you can grow just by twitching your penis for a couple of dozen minutes and doing vascular exercises, but all their growth, if there is one, is just luck from their unique, individual anatomy. For the majority, this is the Protocol that we are promoting here. Experienced and understanding people have long understood that the revolution began with the arrival of Kyrpa’s.

It will need a true dedication to make it happen. As S.N.R said it will need experience enough to know the PE methods and the limitations.
If someone not so experienced takes this route, I can assure you need to educate yourself a lot before you do. A lot.
The execution needs patience and log keeping to detect the trends and ability to response if needed.

Though some have made huge gains in BPFSL out of just few workouts, but for me the expectation to gain 1 mm in 5 days is more realistic.
Then you need consistency to accumulate these 1 mm increments. Then you need a skillset to trigger the growth responses to induce BPEL growth to maximum .
In 1,5 years these increments meant 4.5 cm for me on BPEL.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa

It will need a true dedication to make it happen. As S.N.R said it will need experience enough to know the PE methods and the limitations.

If someone not so experienced takes this route, I can assure you need to educate yourself a lot before you do. A lot.

The execution needs patience and log keeping to detect the trends and ability to response if needed.

Everything is exactly As Kyrpa says. The usual traditional training process is complex, and these training sessions with a large amount of potentially dangerous equipment increase the difficulty factor multiple times. It has already been said that this methodology requires maximum clear feedback and coordination from a person, the most detailed knowledge of the anatomy of the penis, knowledge of collagen, their types, extracellular matrix, relationships, understanding of viscoelasticity, plasticity, stress relaxation and creep, to understand the difference between them, and this is only a small part of what lies on the surface, this is the tip of the iceberg. It will take a lot of learning from yourself, even if you learn from the smartest mentors, you will face many difficulties during the penis enlargement process. And now imagine that no one is around, you need to solve this problem, and to solve it, you need knowledge, experience, understanding of all processes. This is what Kyrpa encouraged the community to learn.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
The vacuum attachment has been a key for the glans size improvement as well, it has grown quite a bit and I would say all because of the vacuum hanger.
The glans and the CS will always be softer than the CC:s , that is the anatomic fact.

Good to hear and very interesting. I was also wondering if the prolonged time of the glans in the vacuum cap would lead to a bigger glans. This topic is so unclear to me. So many people claim it is not possible to increase glans size and there are a few who claim to have grown theirs with basic PE exercises. However, it looks like those who specifically aim to increase glans size it doesn’t work out. I will see for myself if the increased blood flow in the CS due to extended septum and the glans being under vacuum for quite some time will result in an increased glans size. Could be a fruitable combination.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Well trained IC and BC muscles will provide enhanced pressure and puffier look on the glans and CS .


That is not surprising and it is good to see it works. If I were to work on all those angles including training the muscles it will be hard for me to distinguish between what has an effect. I am really curious to know if only the lengthening of the septum and/or the glans under vacuum can contribute to a bigger glans.

Originally Posted by igigi
Now, after adding these 2 extra centimeters of septum, my CS has restored to its “normal” shape. During an erection now it seems like its harder, perhaps because now it is stretched too, and it is also more inflated than before.

Awesome! I am happy for you to hear that. You haven’t done girth work at that time as far as I remember so that is very interesting. Has your glans size or the way your glans behave changed in some way, too?

Originally Posted by S.N.R
Experienced and understanding people have long understood that the revolution began with the arrival of Kyrpa’s.

I can hear monumental music playing :D and I agree with that statement. I look at it the same way.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by Kyrpa

Though some have made huge gains in BPFSL out of just few workouts, but for me the expectation to gain 1 mm in 5 days is more realistic.

Then you need consistency to accumulate these 1 mm increments. Then you need a skillset to trigger the growth responses to induce BPEL growth to maximum .

In 1,5 years these increments meant 4.5 cm for me on BPEL.

In 68 days, I achieved +1.2 cm of tunic length (in BPFSL), and this is 1 mm in 5.6 days. The sweetest thing is that I took breaks for more than half of the days. And this is also what Kyrpa is talking about. But I also might not have received such a long-awaited increase. Explain. Before the start of competent work, I took the first break in my history from training for 160 days, but before that, I worked maniacally on my penis for 8 and a half years, excluded many important and necessary things from my personal life, just for the sake of an extra 3-4 hours to carry the extender. I carried the extender for 4 years without a break, distracted only by healing injuries, before that there was a craze for manual sprains, five hours of stretching a day of the penis twisted into a rope (360°) with a hybrid of stress relaxation and creep - half a year. Before that, half a year of terrible sets of clamp, jelk and Uli, which gave me not passable discoloration, and chronic fluid flow, the benefit of the latter is gone, but the decline in darkening took years to make the penis look like a human +-. And before that, years of an enhanced novice program with all sorts of tricks to get something out for yourself. Penis enlargement is hard work and there is nothing to do without dedication and a huge desire.

Originally Posted by S.N.R
Everything is exactly As Kyrpa says. The usual traditional training process is complex, and these training sessions with a large amount of potentially dangerous equipment increase the difficulty factor multiple times. It has already been said that this methodology requires maximum clear feedback and coordination from a person, the most detailed knowledge of the anatomy of the penis, knowledge of collagen, their types, extracellular matrix, relationships, understanding of viscoelasticity, plasticity, stress relaxation and creep, to understand the difference between them, and this is only a small part of what lies on the surface, this is the tip of the iceberg. It will take a lot of learning from yourself, even if you learn from the smartest mentors, you will face many difficulties during the penis enlargement process. And now imagine that no one is around, you need to solve this problem, and to solve it, you need knowledge, experience, understanding of all processes. This is what Kyrpa encouraged the community to learn.

Once you put it that way, I like to say, supposedly for the first time publicly that this concept has the potential of actual clinical therapy.
Going to a health care professional 1- 2 times a week, one hour session to elongate the penis to a maximum extend with professional high-end equipment.

Then the customer goes home, does his self treatment protocol with more traditional ways, rests day or two and starts over.
6 to 8 weeks of treatment, another month with self treatments and then take a month off.

After a year and few thousand bucks living happily with the newly enhanced penis, and for many of us with a refreshned mindset as well.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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