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Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Originally Posted by bigfin87
Thanks a lot Kyrpa! I will try length restricted clamping and pumping.

So how long decon would you recommend, at least two months? And during this decon I can’t do light jelqing or any sort of PE?

And for some little off topic about women. A year ago I was with this young hot nurse and when she saw my dick, I was maybe little over 6” girth because I had one hell of a erection. She first said that my dick wouldn’t fit inside her. I said her “trust me it will go in easy, I know what I am doing”. And with some pussy eating and foreplay she was soaking wet. Entry was tight but it went in really easy and I didn’t bottom out. Afterwards she said that I was double the size she has gotten, I was only her 3rd guy. She was really amazed how easily it went in and it didn’t hurt at all like with previous guys, I just said to her “other men have never really got you turned on” and she said “yes that is true, I never knew I could be so wet and horny”.

Afterwards every time we had sex she was raving about my size. With average size penis you can easily hurt woman if you just stick it in and pound mercilessly when pussy hasn’t warmed up.

Guys confidence and skills are the key when you have sex, big dick is just a bonus. Every woman I have been, have been turned on because I am determined and know what I am doing, my dick size is not what turned them on, they were soaking wet before they even saw it.

Two month is more likely to be what it takesnbetween thes campaigns. After a few rounds ~18 months or so longer decon will be needed if the campaigns doesn´t produce anymore.

What you are telling about the sexual acts with women I think you nailed it. Have to admit I may be a little biased myself as most of the women I have lately met are mommys, had given a birth or two. And I have to say that they surely know how to enjoy more than young chicks whom have trained their pussies tight.
Only once in my lifetime a girl have had a accidental hurting bottoming out, and it was when I still had the original 7 inches unit. That said it is not because of a lack of heavy pounding as it is how I like it very much.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 10-14-2020 at .

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
I have found concentrating on exercises considered as a girth workouts having the greatest impact on BPEL.


My BPFSL was the same as BPEL before US, which I concluded was the limiting factor. Once the difference reaches 15 mm or BPFSL gains stop I am planning on working on girth.

Kyrpa, you mentioned doing US during clamping for girth. Is this what you would recommend?
I want to keep US as the only heating method for simplicity but may experiment with IR + US if necessary to keep it warmer for longer. I found that US alone with my probe cannot keep the entire thing hot all the time, so I work on one section for a few minutes then move on to another as you suggested earlier.

Have you found IR heated jelqing to be a good complement or being unnecessary?

Originally Posted by Kyrpa

With two 1.6w/cm^2 transducer the urethral temperature only reached 38.5 C which is way too low.

Heating the flaccid shaft prior the introduction of the clamp the temperature drops steeply immediately when the 37 C arterial blood rushes in.

The therapeutic window is very limited. Multiple heat cycles combined with clamping sets needs to be produced.

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I still believe that the US heated stretches (bundled) pre-treated maximal expansion workouts are the most promising way for me.

Looks like you have not had success with US heated clamping after all. Can you describe how you do US heated stretches please or do you only pre-heat with US? Not very clear.

Originally Posted by Azazello
My BPFSL was the same as BPEL before US, which I concluded was the limiting factor. Once the difference reaches 15 mm or BPFSL gains stop I am planning on working on girth.

Kyrpa, you mentioned doing US during clamping for girth. Is this what you would recommend?
I want to keep US as the only heating method for simplicity but may experiment with IR + US if necessary to keep it warmer for longer. I found that US alone with my probe cannot keep the entire thing hot all the time, so I work on one section for a few minutes then move on to another as you suggested earlier.

Have you found IR heated jelqing to be a good complement or being unnecessary?

It is a challenge. Elevating the temperature high enough for the whole shaft with even multiple ultrasound transducers while clamped seems to be out of reach. External heat sources would be handy. I prefer FIR over any other additional source while clamped.

The downside for me especially when heating the skin while clamped or while pumping showed to be guaranteed way of causing severe discoloration.
Now, I don´t want to be rude but we should be honest in one particular aspect. We have all seen pictures of long term clampers and pumpers here showing disgusting looking permanent skin discoloration. That is what you get heating the penis with heatpads etc while clamping. For me it is a definitely no go. If that is what it takes to gain girth I am comfortable to not gain any.

Other than that your idea of IR heated jelqing sounds fine , yet I have no experience.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

AWS SR-20 scale has a switch on the back under battery cover to turn off automatic shutoff. This is the model Tutt recommended.

I hear you on discoloration. Having done pumping for 4-5 months I started to develop discoloration but no permanent gains do I stopped it. It faded somewhat with arnica cream treatment for the next few months but not completely gone. I may try arnica + DMSO in the future. There does not seem to be a sure method in the threads I searched. I fear clamping may do the same but maybe US is different by not heating the skin too much.

If not clamping then what method for girth that would allow for simultaneous US heating?

Originally Posted by Azazello
AWS SR-20 scale has a switch on the back under battery cover to turn off automatic shutoff. This is the model Tutt recommended.

Great!


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Azazello

If not clamping then what method for girth that would allow for simultaneous US heating?

That is a question to be solved. Experimenting is needed.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Azazello
AWS SR-20 scale has a switch on the back under battery cover to turn off automatic shutoff. This is the model Tutt recommended.

Very useful thanks.


Start: 6" BPEL x 5" EG (mid)

Current: 7.5" BPEL x 5.98" EG (average distal/mid/base shaft)

Goal: 8" BPEL x 6.5" EG (whole shaft)

Originally Posted by waterman888
OK thanks Kyrpa, I’ll look around then. In case Tutt signs in maybe he can cross check for us.

That is the exact one I have.

Originally Posted by Plumwhipper
Well there’s an idea.

Do you have any information about Tutt’s current efforts by the way?

I have it on good authority that Tutt’s current efforts are focused on using RF heating instead of US, and using very slow strains. :D

I can’t recommend a machine because the one I have is clinical grade and impractical for most here.

Originally Posted by Patrik_16
Where did this guy “Tutt” go? He was very active but suddenly just disappeared. Why is it that most of the guys starting a US protocol just seems to fade away?

I would say that life gets in the way, but the reality is that it’s the other way around. When you’re working on business deals with many millions on the line, hobby interests like PE must take a back seat. I imagine that others feel similarly. Everyone has stuff going on and a bigger or healthier penis is rarely top priority.

For me it’s about the science. I’m willing to make the monetary investment and leverage my background to further the science and indulge my curiosity, but only as time permits. Feel free to ask any questions you might have.

I will say that patience is paramount. Significant gains take time.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
I have tried to contact Manko with no response as we are surely missing him. Longerstretch has more important things in his life at the moment but surely coming back some day.
Tutt, comes and goes without no real serious interest on building his penis, his involvement is all about scientific/engineering based. Last time we have been in contact he was pondering on really, really significant investment on experimental equipment. I don´t know how that have been panned out.

Yes I did purchase the equipment…about $25k overall. Clinical radio frequency machine delivers targeted heat at depths about 1 to 1.5cm. I like the RF heat much better. More even, controllable, and sustainable. It delivers heat across a much broader area and 150W of power heats the deep tissue to target temps within seconds without any pinching pain. Not capable of the same depths that US is, but the typical penis isn’t thick enough to need more depth. The only thing that would be nicer is a contactless device but they aren’t widely available yet.

Originally Posted by Tutt
I would say that life gets in the way, but the reality is that it’s the other way around. When you’re working on business deals with many millions on the line, hobby interests like PE must take a back seat. I imagine that others feel similarly. Everyone has stuff going on and a bigger or healthier penis is rarely top priority.

For me it’s about the science. I’m willing to make the monetary investment and leverage my background to further the science and indulge my curiosity, but only as time permits. Feel free to ask any questions you might have.

I will say that patience is paramount. Significant gains take time.


I’m glad your back. I like to follow your and others threads about US. I will never use it myself but it’s interesting.


190416 Bpel 16,5 Bpfsl 16,5 Meg 14,2 Beg 15,0

210312 Bpel 19 Bpfsl 19,6 Meg 14,5 Beg 15,3

___Gain Bpel +2,5 Bpfsl +3,1 Meg +0,3 Beg +0,3

Originally Posted by Patrik_16
I’m glad your back. I like to follow your and others threads about US. I will never use it myself but it’s interesting.

There isn’t anything wrong with US provided that you stay away from the testes and prostate. The best thing about it is availability. IMO, radio frequency is better, but the devices aren’t nearly as accessible and much more expensive.

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