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Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Originally Posted by pudd1ng
This is very interesting because I’m currently on a deacon then I’m going to focus on girth, I’m convinced I need to fill the gap now. My Bpel is 7.4” and my bpfsl now is over 8.4”.

Kyrpa I’m unsure what to do with this though do you have any recommendations on what to start with or experiment with, I’m up for experimenting.

I have clamps, same us machine as you (just one), LG, bib hangers and I could buy a pump too.

Also I’m the same as you, thinner behind glans than mid shaft, maybe that’s a thing guys with the cord have in common?

You certainly have some gap to reach.

Well for me it was easy until it wasn´t.
The girth kept coming in conjunction with BPEL , latter following BPFSL with a stable difference.
The BPEL developed despite the girth gains stalled at some stage. All that using just conventional methods.

Best response has been all the time for manual clamping, forcing the shaft into a expanded balloon between clamped hands.
One in the base another gripping at the glans manipulating semierect unit.
Something to notice is that I have done pretty much all the girth job without sexual arousal induced full erections.

Later on I have taken the experimental course as the girth gains stalled with conventional methods, clamping and pumping.

I have experimented the same technique with actual clamps, even went to build the “Squisher”, compressive tool made out of caulk gun. All these in conjunction of US can bring significantly better expansion compared to conventional clamping or pumping.

Also for pumping the best expansion has been with using smaller cylinder as a pre conditioning set. Cylinder size which allows packing it in few minutes.
Before the actual work set/sets using the ultrasound heating shaft under bundled stretch.
As the shaft starts to be hot then using bigger caliper cylinder and length restriction cushion inside of it. Not allowing longtudinal stretch the radial expansion is ridiculous.

At the moment I believe the German guy Pe_Pe is using ultrasound to heat the shaft and similarly manipulating the clamped expansion between his hands. He reported massive expansion during the sets.

All these techniques should be trialed and tested in long term. All that I know is that they surely work in workout basis.
But I am still not convinced about the heating efficiency and there for haven´t tried in long term any of these.
Only four to five weeks at time as a phase two after the first phase of lenghtening of the BPFSL had stalled.
Basicly keeping the BPEL developing chasing the gap closer.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by pudd1ng
This is very interesting because I’m currently on a deacon then I’m going to focus on girth, I’m convinced I need to fill the gap now. My Bpel is 7.4” and my bpfsl now is over 8.4”.

Kyrpa I’m unsure what to do with this though do you have any recommendations on what to start with or experiment with, I’m up for experimenting.

I have clamps, same us machine as you (just one), LG, bib hangers and I could buy a pump too.

Also I’m the same as you, thinner behind glans than mid shaft, maybe that’s a thing guys with the cord have in common?

On a side note to clarify for everybody, remember there is no such thing as “guys with the cord” or “maybe I have that cord and thats why i can’t grow”
EVERYBODY has that cord. Is part of the penis. Is a structure of the penis. Everybody has it. The difference here is that some guys are born with a tough septum, others have toughened the septum through PE, others have grown the surrounding tissues and the septum became the limiting factor, etc. But everybody has “the cord”


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
On a side note to clarify for everybody, remember there is no such thing as “guys with the cord” or “maybe I have that cord and thats why I can’t grow”
EVERYBODY has that cord. Is part of the penis. Is a structure of the penis. Everybody has it. The difference here is that some guys are born with a tough septum, others have toughened the septum through PE, others have grown the surrounding tissues and the septum became the limiting factor, etc. But everybody has “the cord”

Is there a difference between a toughened septum and a septum that was tough to begin with? As I understand not all the septums are “steel cords” that are resistant to stretching? As far as I see here all the guys that gained with the US machine were able to gain length prior to using the US, maybe the dorsal part toughened up but was never resistant.

The question is does it really matter? It would have been interesting to see someone that never gained length and is limited by the cord experimenting with this machine and yield results..

So far I know of someone with a steel cord from another forum that was inspired by Kypra’s method and bought the machine, and after 2 months of using it, he gained nothing (not saying it doesn’t work) that’s why I wonder if it’s even helpful to guys with a steel cord to begin with?

Hello Kyrpa Can medicinal Vaseline be used instead of gel?

I use Vaseline for children, a lubricant gel like k-y gel

Originally Posted by Benmush
Is there a difference between a toughened septum and a septum that was tough to begin with? As I understand not all the septums are “steel cords” that are resistant to stretching? As far as I see here all the guys that gained with the US machine were able to gain length prior to using the US, maybe the dorsal part toughened up but was never resistant.

The question is does it really matter? It would have been interesting to see someone that never gained length and is limited by the cord experimenting with this machine and yield results..

So far I know of someone with a steel cord from another forum that was inspired by Kypra’s method and bought the machine, and after 2 months of using it, he gained nothing (not saying it doesn’t work) that’s why I wonder if it’s even helpful to guys with a steel cord to begin with?

No difference between a toughened septum and a septum that was naturally tough. And thats why everybody has the cord. Because even a new septum that hasn’t been exercised, when the penis is stretched out, that “cord” is there anyways. Once stretched out, even with the potential to grow, is a tough steel cord. Its a ligament. Thats why.

I am curious about that person that applied the US and gained nothing. I would love to see his method of application. If he really indeed gained nothing, even after following the same protocol as Kyrpa, it would be an interesting case to study.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Alhowaidi
Hello Kyrpa Can medicinal Vaseline be used instead of gel?

I use Vaseline for children, a lubricant gel like k-y gel

Yes it can be used.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Benmush
Is there a difference between a toughened septum and a septum that was tough to begin with? As I understand not all the septums are “steel cords” that are resistant to stretching? As far as I see here all the guys that gained with the US machine were able to gain length prior to using the US, maybe the dorsal part toughened up but was never resistant.

The question is does it really matter? It would have been interesting to see someone that never gained length and is limited by the cord experimenting with this machine and yield results..

So far I know of someone with a steel cord from another forum that was inspired by Kypra’s method and bought the machine, and after 2 months of using it, he gained nothing (not saying it doesn’t work) that’s why I wonder if it’s even helpful to guys with a steel cord to begin with?

In my opinion, nobody knows if those septums are the same in the end. They might feel the same by touching it from outside but molecular wise, who knows. It would be indeed interesting to see someone who never gained using this method. However. There are unknown variables. How did that person do PE in the first place and how would he do it with the new method?

The person you mentioned from another forum, I wonder if he really sticks to the principles mentioned in this thread. Just buying a US device (which might even be one that doesn’t have the sufficient requirements) and then not sticking to the core principles won’t yield results. Often people hear of someone gaining a lot and trying to replicate it without understand the protocol and applying it in the right way and then blaming or discrediting someone or something. That’s a shame.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by Benmush
Is there a difference between a toughened septum and a septum that was tough to begin with? As I understand not all the septums are “steel cords” that are resistant to stretching? As far as I see here all the guys that gained with the US machine were able to gain length prior to using the US, maybe the dorsal part toughened up but was never resistant.

The question is does it really matter? It would have been interesting to see someone that never gained length and is limited by the cord experimenting with this machine and yield results..

So far I know of someone with a steel cord from another forum that was inspired by Kypra’s method and bought the machine, and after 2 months of using it, he gained nothing (not saying it doesn’t work) that’s why I wonder if it’s even helpful to guys with a steel cord to begin with?

I label myself as one having the restricting elements to begin with. During my campaigns twenty and ten years ago I gained no more than total of 1cm on length.
It was obvious that the load is carried with the ligamentous structure, as like there were a tendon pulled to it limits and rest of the shaft surrounding it was completely soft. Absolutely no strech on the tunica,CC or CS. Today the situation is still the same after great length gains, the cord bears all the stress when stretching the penis.

There will be non responders also for this protocol that´s for sure. At this point we don´t know what the overall percentage of gainers will be, anything north of 80% would be a nobel prize gategory when treating tumors.

There was one guy fitting your describtion which we , and me privately tried to help. Everything seemed allright in his protocol but the strain achieved in the workouts stayed low. Despite some adjustments in techniques he never made it. Then he went to a decon as far as I know.
Maybe he was at the state of diminishing gains because the former gains, maybe it was that he never got the temperature right, maybe he couldn´t tolerate the right load, I don´t know. He had a history of gaining 2 cm in two years if I recall it right, followed with months of frustrating struggles to gain anything.

It have become very clear that we can fight the nature only to a certain point, gains will stall with every method, even with this concept.

If someone is having trouble to gain for months or even years they should stop everything they do immediately and go for the decon for months.
Maybe then come back to start with this protocol. Even then the probabilty for someone gaining nothing is there.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 11-03-2020 at .

Originally Posted by igigi
Why is that? Well, because when your septum becomes the limiting factor, other structures begin to grow and develop around. Tunica grows leading to bigger girth, CS grows leading to a soft CS instead of a bulging notorious CS, and your erections are rock hard solid and frequent. The old days known TGC theory applies here.

I don’t understand why the CS would become soft. Could you explain that to me? My CS is pretty soft and I thought that is a common characteristic of that structure.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by wurst
I don’t understand why the CS would become soft. Could you explain that to me? My CS is pretty soft and I thought that is a common characteristic of that structure.


When you pull from the glans you are not stretching, either your CS, CC or rest of to tunica. All the load has been carried by the small portion of the cross-section, the “cord”. Thats why everything else stays soft and relaxed no matter the load applied.
Not becomes soft, it stays soft, not having any tension as it is while free flaccid.

EDIT: seems like I was commenting something else than the quote. My bad.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Azazello
I hear you on discoloration. Having done pumping for 4-5 months I started to develop discoloration but no permanent gains do I stopped it. It faded somewhat with arnica cream treatment for the next few months but not completely gone. I may try arnica + DMSO in the future. There does not seem to be a sure method in the threads I searched. I fear clamping may do the same but maybe US is different by not heating the skin too much.
If not clamping then what method for girth that would allow for simultaneous US heating?

I got rid of discoloration using 25% TCA (trichloroacetic acid). You have to be very cautious using it and you have to know how to handle it otherwise you can harm yourself easily. I repeat it, use it with extreme caution. It is a strong acid and will cause permanent damage including scar tissue if not done properly.

Fill up your washbasin to the edge with cold water because at the end you want to get the TCA off your dick bathing it in the water and kind of rubbing it off. Basically, I apply some TCA on the discolored area using an “ear cleaner” that has cotton at the tip. It has to be done fast so the whole treated area has pretty much the same amount of time with the TCA on.

Once the skin turns whitish (a shade of white), get it off. By that time you will already feel a burning sensation which can be a little painful. Put your dick in the water and rub the TCA off with your hands. Do it for some minutes.

After 2-3 days the outer layer(s) of the skin will come off including the discoloration. It will peel. After some more days the skin will be recovered.

Wait at least 4 weeks or so until the next treatment if there is still some discoloration. You can play with the degree of whiteness to some extent but don’t go over the top. The whiter the skin gets when the TCA is applied the deeper it gets. After a certain threshold, it can be too deep and you cause damage. Take it easy, step by step, starting low.

Educate yourself more on how to use it before you use it.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
When you pull from the glans you are not stretching, either your CS, CC or rest of to tunica. All the load has been carried by the small portion of the cross-section, the “cord”. Thats why everything else stays soft and relaxed no matter the load applied.
Not becomes soft, it stays soft, not having any tension as it is while free flaccid.

EDIT: seems like I was commenting something else than the quote. My bad.

I think so, too :)
I was wondering why the CS becomes soft as you PE your way up for a long time. Is the CS not soft “normally”?


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by wurst
I got rid of discoloration using 25% TCA (trichloroacetic acid). You have to be very cautious using it and you have to know how to handle it otherwise you can harm yourself easily. I repeat it, use it with extreme caution. It is a strong acid and will cause permanent damage including scar tissue if not done properly.

Fill up your washbasin to the edge with cold water because at the end you want to get the TCA off your dick bathing it in the water and kind of rubbing it off. Basically, I apply some TCA on the discolored area using an “ear cleaner” that has cotton at the tip. It has to be done fast so the whole treated area has pretty much the same amount of time with the TCA on.

Once the skin turns whitish (a shade of white), get it off. By that time you will already feel a burning sensation which can be a little painful. Put your dick in the water and rub the TCA off with your hands. Do it for some minutes.

After 2-3 days the outer layer(s) of the skin will come off including the discoloration. It will peel. After some more days the skin will be recovered.

Wait at least 4 weeks or so until the next treatment if there is still some discoloration. You can play with the degree of whiteness to some extent but don’t go over the top. The whiter the skin gets when the TCA is applied the deeper it gets. After a certain threshold, it can be too deep and you cause damage. Take it easy, step by step, starting low.

Educate yourself more on how to use it before you use it.

You may want to start with a lower concentration such as 12,5% and see how things go. Don’t know if that’s enough to make a difference, though.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by wurst
I think so, too :)
I was wondering why the CS becomes soft as you PE your way up for a long time. Is the CS not soft “normally”?

Actually what Kyrpa replied is correct, because I was referring to these structures while under tension. And as he mentioned, when you pull from the glans, the septum is taking all the load while other surrounding structures stay relaxed.

Its also true that in essence the CS is soft. But that is because the CS do not have a tunica, it is only covered by the Buch’s Fascia. But that doesnt mean the CS doesnt grow. It grows too like the other structures with PE through jelquing, clamping, etc.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi

Its also true that in essence the CS is soft. But that is because the CS do not have a tunica, it is only covered by the Buch’s Fascia. But that doesnt mean the CS doesnt grow. It grows too like the other structures with PE through jelquing, clamping, etc.

Actuallly it does have its own individual tunica. One thin layer consisting longitudinal fibers. . Then it is enveloped by Buch’s fascia.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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