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Originally Posted by wurst
Thank’s for the suggestions. I am going to experiment with phase 1 (conditioning phase) and see what gives me the best results with the least load using a vac extender. I take Kyrpas protocol as a basis. I am also going to start a progress log.

Good thinking.

You can start with 1kg and adding 0,5kg next time etc. After few rounds you can find the threshold load any addition not giving an advance.
For me it was clear that with continuous load by spring force/elastic band took lot more time to reach the maximal elongation than the stress relaxation setup(fixed length). Finding the correct load the maximal elongation was reached in 30 minutes. For the simplicity I used fixed optimal load but it seems that increasing the loading slowly during the set it would bring even better results.
Take the time to find the optimal load, then get in there in increments during your workouts.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by wurst
Thank’s for the suggestions. I am going to experiment with phase 1 (conditioning phase) and see what gives me the best results with the least load using a vac extender. I take Kyrpas protocol as a basis. I am also going to start a progress log.

@Pudd1ng
You use a bib hanger and as far as I can remember you do it because you struggle with a vac hanger, right?

Wouldn’t it make more sense to get a vac hanger working and do it this way? In my opinion you need all the length available to be heated and stretched out and that can be achieved much better using a vac hanger as the bib hanger has such a big attachment site.

No the vac is no problem but I’m not risking blisters at the higher weights so I use for lower weights and the bib for higher. I still have about 2-3 inches available to use the us on so target that section and it means I can heat it and keep the heat far easier because it’s a smaller section, Manko did it a similar way I think.

I will say I can vac hang up to 8kg cold but when heat is introduced at anything over 3kg I get that tingle that tells me a blister will happen, so for me it’s not worth it and my tape technique is perfect.

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
HEATING WITH ULTRASOUND WHILE CLAMPING

ABSTRACT
This test have been produced to further study heating with 1MHz 1.6w / cm^2 ultrasound, and to investigate if the application is efficient or not for producing therapeutic temperatures 39.7-43° C for clamped penis.
It have been previously proved that the particular intensity being enough to heat up flaccid stretched penis.
The heating window was chosen to be typical clamping set time of 10 minutes, and relying on former tests it was already supposed that one transducer alone with the intensity available is not powerful enough.
Test was executed with 2 transducers mounted parallel as a dual application 2x 1.6w /cm^2, A 2x4 cm^2).

As a summary the test failed to produce mean temperature at therapeutic temperatures.

METHODS
As a heating device is used dual setup of US transducers with 1.6 w/ cm^2 intensity. The area of the each transducer head being 4.0cm^2.
Urethral temperatures are measured with a plastic-coated thermocouple wiring. Two measuring channels are used (T1 and T2), measuring points separated by 6 cm distance.
The test procedure has been carried out while being at 90 % erection clamped with double cable clamp at the base.

RESULTS
Test results are documented at 10 sec intervals for T1 and T2.
T1 temperatures are measured penetrating deeper in to urethra, measurement being at first half portion the shaft. T2 is measured from the distal portion of the shaft.
Transducers separated by 7 cm moved in small circles at the the range of overlapping each other area just by a touch.
Keeping the balanced temperature on both channels the initial raise of 3-4 °C was quick but failed to produce higher temperatures. Only by sticking in a spot for seconds it was able to achieve momentary peaks to drop back down 2-3°C immediately once moved.
Struggled to top the threshold level of 39,7 °C . Temperatures clearly staying below excluding temporary peaks of 40 - 41 °C. Therapeutic level never really reached before the time out.

CONCLUSION
Reaching the therapeutic temperature for the clamped penile mass was not possible within the time restriction. The double setup of 2x 1 MHz application with 1.6 w / cm^2 intensity is not powerful enough source on heating the blood filled clamped penis yet only single transducer is effective enough to heat flaccid stretched shaft in 8-10 minutes.

DISCUSSION
Dual setup of US 1MHz with 1.6 w/ cm^2 can not be used effectively enough while clamped.
It remains under speculation if it is doable using external heat sources as a backup or with pre heater.
Further more under suspicions is if the electromagnetic fields of the transducers distort each other coils being that near each others. It should be tested if the opposite application with some clearance between the beams would be more effective way. Or using at it was put installing ceramic insulation between transducers.

Actually second test run was already about to be run with rice socks and pre heating while pumping but the setup failed and needs further preparations to be performed properly
Initial results indicated that after pumping with packed cylinder buried inside + 45-50°C rise socks using oven pre heated cylinder, the urethral temperature was no better than 35.6°C at the time clamp was on and the urethral sound was inserted.
The actual US heat cycle was interrupted.

Further tests are needed but at the moment it indicates that for clamped blood filled penile mass more intense US sources and / or effective extra heat sources are needed to reach therapeutic temperatures.

This result could also be used as an advantage. If you want to gain girth at a certain area of the shaft it often is quite difficult to do so with exercises. However, if you use the ultrasound to point at that certain area that you want to increase in size and leave it there without moving at a certain power output, that might do the trick by reaching therapeutic temperatures leaving the rest of the shaft less prone to size increases.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Good thinking.

You can start with 1kg and adding 0,5kg next time etc. After few rounds you can find the threshold load any addition not giving an advance.
For me it was clear that with continuous load by spring force/elastic band took lot more time to reach the maximal elongation than the stress relaxation setup(fixed length). Finding the correct load the maximal elongation was reached in 30 minutes. For the simplicity I used fixed optimal load but it seems that increasing the loading slowly during the set it would bring even better results.
Take the time to find the optimal load, then get in there in increments during your workouts.

Sounds like a good plan! Thank’s for the advice. I highly appreciate it and everything else that you have contributed. 2 days after I found these advancements I had already ordered an US device, which means I totally think this could make a difference.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by igigi
Wise words man. I wish I had unlimited funds and all the time in the world for bodybuilding and PE. But that is not the real world. We buy food with money, not with a big dick.

Male strippers use a big dick and a hardcopy to turn women into ATMs.

Originally Posted by wurst
This result could also be used as an advantage. If you want to gain girth at a certain area of the shaft it often is quite difficult to do so with exercises. However, if you use the ultrasound to point at that certain area that you want to increase in size and leave it there without moving at a certain power output, that might do the trick by reaching therapeutic temperatures leaving the rest of the shaft less prone to size increases.


Keeping the transducer stationary is a ticket for trouble. You might end up damaging peak temperatures and destructive non-thermal reactions still not raising the mean temperature enough.
But you can concentrate on isolated area clamping the shaft next to it.

Once again the temperature graph tells more than the describtion alone. I would need several transducers using the given intensity to reach target temperature for the whole shaft. I prefer to stick with moderate intensity (1.6w/cm2) application keeping it safe.
It is above 40C mean temperature we aspire if looking for permanent gains, lower than that we surely get the expansion but the enlargement is reversible.

My shaft is significantly thinner behind the glans than at the middle of the shaft. I clamped the unit 5 cm from the coronal ridge and heated with US for 5 minutes and went immediately to pump for 7 minutes 10 inHG . Did two rounds and it resulted significantly greater expansion than normal 7inHG pump set for 20 minutes.
What I do not like in heated pumping or clamping is the much greater fluid retention as well.

It is hard to tell from random trials which direction to take. I have done series of different versions looking for the breakthrough studying the thing.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Keeping the transducer stationary is a ticket for trouble. You might end up damaging peak temperatures and destructive non-thermal reactions still not raising the mean temperature enough.
But you can concentrate on isolated area clamping the shaft next to it.

Once again the temperature graph tells more than the describtion alone. I would need several transducers using the given intensity to reach target temperature for the whole shaft. I prefer to stick with moderate intensity (1.6w/cm2) application keeping it safe.
It is above 40C mean temperature we aspire if looking for permanent gains, lower than that we surely get the expansion but the enlargement is reversible.

My shaft is significantly thinner behind the glans than at the middle of the shaft. I clamped the unit 5 cm from the coronal ridge and heated with US for 5 minutes and went immediately to pump for 7 minutes 10 inHG . Did two rounds and it resulted significantly greater expansion than normal 7inHG pump set for 20 minutes.
What I do not like in heated pumping or clamping is the much greater fluid retention as well.

It is hard to tell from random trials which direction to take. I have done series of different versions looking for the breakthrough studying the thing.

This is very interesting because I’m currently on a deacon then I’m going to focus on girth, I’m convinced I need to fill the gap now. My Bpel is 7.4” and my bpfsl now is over 8.4”.

Kyrpa I’m unsure what to do with this though do you have any recommendations on what to start with or experiment with, I’m up for experimenting.

I have clamps, same us machine as you (just one), LG, bib hangers and I could buy a pump too.

Also I’m the same as you, thinner behind glans than mid shaft, maybe that’s a thing guys with the cord have in common?

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Keeping the transducer stationary is a ticket for trouble. You might end up damaging peak temperatures and destructive non-thermal reactions still not raising the mean temperature enough.
But you can concentrate on isolated area clamping the shaft next to it.

Once again the temperature graph tells more than the describtion alone. I would need several transducers using the given intensity to reach target temperature for the whole shaft. I prefer to stick with moderate intensity (1.6w/cm2) application keeping it safe.
It is above 40C mean temperature we aspire if looking for permanent gains, lower than that we surely get the expansion but the enlargement is reversible.

My shaft is significantly thinner behind the glans than at the middle of the shaft. I clamped the unit 5 cm from the coronal ridge and heated with US for 5 minutes and went immediately to pump for 7 minutes 10 inHG . Did two rounds and it resulted significantly greater expansion than normal 7inHG pump set for 20 minutes.
What I do not like in heated pumping or clamping is the much greater fluid retention as well.

It is hard to tell from random trials which direction to take. I have done series of different versions looking for the breakthrough studying the thing.

Thank’s for the warning. So it has to be constantly moved, then. My shaft just below the glans is also thinner than the rest. It has a lot to do with CS getting thinner, pretty much hiding between the CC’s. Before that the CS is greatly visible. I am thinking by enlarging the top part of the CS, the glans size would also increase. I wonder if that is the only way to increase glans size visually as it must be very elastic and real tissue growth is hard to imagine for me. What is your guess?


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Good thinking.

You can start with 1kg and adding 0,5kg next time etc. After few rounds you can find the threshold load any addition not giving an advance.
For me it was clear that with continuous load by spring force/elastic band took lot more time to reach the maximal elongation than the stress relaxation setup(fixed length). Finding the correct load the maximal elongation was reached in 30 minutes. For the simplicity I used fixed optimal load but it seems that increasing the loading slowly during the set it would bring even better results.
Take the time to find the optimal load, then get in there in increments during your workouts.

I have this extender —>

Is there a way to measure the load in Kg? The extender has springs, btw. I would really like to know the load for documentation.


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Got it! Pretty simple actually :)


11.01.2006: BPEL: 17,3 cm (6,8 inches), EG: 13,5 cm (5,3 inches)

03.11.2011: BPEL: 20,5 cm (8,1 inches), EG: 16 cm (6,3 inches)

-- For people who stopped gaining length --> Gaining volume 2 -- Progress log: Wurst's progress log --

Originally Posted by wurst
Thank’s for the warning. So it has to be constantly moved, then. My shaft just below the glans is also thinner than the rest. It has a lot to do with CS getting thinner, pretty much hiding between the CC’s. Before that the CS is greatly visible. I am thinking by enlarging the top part of the CS, the glans size would also increase. I wonder if that is the only way to increase glans size visually as it must be very elastic and real tissue growth is hard to imagine for me. What is your guess?

I thought the same as Kyrpa after reading your idea of leaving the transducer fixed. Thats a No. Its like UltraSound application 101 LOL. I recommend you to watch youtube videos of UltraSound therapy application just to make yourself familiar with the way it is applied. The movement, the motion, the speed, etc. It will be a similar approach in your penis. And again, NEVER leave the transducer fixed at one point. Even of you dont feel the burning pain, it can still be damaging tissue.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by djrobins
Male strippers use a big dick and a hardcopy to turn women into ATMs.

I know, I was a stripper. It is not a long term proper successful career though. LMAO.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by djrobins
Male strippers use a big dick and a hardcopy to turn women into ATMs.

“Hardcopy” should read “hardbody”.

Originally Posted by djrobins
“Hardcopy” should read “hardbody”.

Just quickly off topic though, strippers dont necessarily have a big dick. Most of the clips you’ll see with strippers on a banana hammock, they stuff their pouches. What works for women is the whole show, entertainment, seduction, moves, etc.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by wurst
I have this extender —>

Is there a way to measure the load in Kg? The extender has springs, btw. I would really like to know the load for documentation.

You will have to modify your extender. I believe it was Tutt who installed a scale in the extender setup in order to measure real time tension with the rods. Even better, build a new extender from scratch with materials, and an embedded scale on it.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

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